Monday, August 26th 2024
AMD Radeon RX 8000 "RDNA 4" GPU Spotted on Geekbench
AMD's upcoming Radeon RX 8000 "RDNA 4" GPU has been spotted on Geekbench, revealing some of its core specifications. These early benchmark appearances indicate that AMD is now testing the new GPUs internally, preparing for a launch expected next year. The leaked GPU, identified as "GFX1201", is believed to be the Navi 48 SKU - the larger of two dies planned for the RDNA 4 family.
It features 28 Compute Units in the Geekbench listing, which in this case refers to Work Group Processors (WGPs). This likely translates to 56 Compute Units positioning it between the current RX 7700 XT (54 CU) and RX 7800 XT (60 CU) models. The clock speed is listed at 2.1 GHz, which seems low compared to current RDNA 3 GPUs that can boost to 2.5-2.6 GHz. However, this is likely due to the early nature of the samples, and we can expect higher frequencies closer to launch. Memory specifications show 16 GB of VRAM, matching current high-end models and suggesting a 256-bit bus interface. Some variants may feature 12 GB VRAM with a 192-bit bus. While not confirmed, previous reports indicate AMD will use GDDR6 memory.
Performance in the OpenCL benchmark is currently unimpressive, but this is typical for early engineering samples and should be disregarded.
The RDNA 4 GPUs are expected to introduce new ray tracing engines with significant performance improvements. AMD aims to bring high-end performance to the $400-$500 price range with this new generation. More information is likely to be revealed at the upcoming CES event.
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It features 28 Compute Units in the Geekbench listing, which in this case refers to Work Group Processors (WGPs). This likely translates to 56 Compute Units positioning it between the current RX 7700 XT (54 CU) and RX 7800 XT (60 CU) models. The clock speed is listed at 2.1 GHz, which seems low compared to current RDNA 3 GPUs that can boost to 2.5-2.6 GHz. However, this is likely due to the early nature of the samples, and we can expect higher frequencies closer to launch. Memory specifications show 16 GB of VRAM, matching current high-end models and suggesting a 256-bit bus interface. Some variants may feature 12 GB VRAM with a 192-bit bus. While not confirmed, previous reports indicate AMD will use GDDR6 memory.
The RDNA 4 GPUs are expected to introduce new ray tracing engines with significant performance improvements. AMD aims to bring high-end performance to the $400-$500 price range with this new generation. More information is likely to be revealed at the upcoming CES event.
43 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 8000 "RDNA 4" GPU Spotted on Geekbench
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Both share the same information. :kookoo:Wrong. The "P" is a very minor process modification and won't result in any advantages.Virtually one and the same thing. A "plus" is replaced by a new digit. Meaningless.
N5 density:
N4 density:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_nm_process
I've got that with a golden rabbit...
Unless RT performance is *greatly* improved, I 100% expect the 7900XT and XTX to continue to be sold and/or get a re-brand (ala Radeon VII sold alongside 5700XT, or R9 290->390x)
I doubt it would eve get that it will be straved for instructiond anyways.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Although 500 is probably the most made up part they will price is 10-15% lower than it's closest performance rival from the 50 series so if the 5070 is 699 expect 599-649..... Assuming that's the card it's most similar to perfomance wise.
Once we see the PS5 pro which likely shares some of the DNA with RDNA4 we will see hopefully it has the dedicated hardware like the PS5 pro for upscaling and that isn't a Sony only thing.
As others have said it's really still 5nm and i would not call two years of process advancements as "minor modification".
Zen 5 already proved the efficiency advantage of N4P. Let's see if Nvidia uses the extra budget for efficiency or performance.
Blackwell already *IS* N4P. There's nothing to argue here. Gaming variants of this architecture will also be N4P. Anyone hoping otherwise is deluding themselves. Rubin will release next year with N3 and HBM4 and the next gaming architecture is likely 2026 on N3.
I think we will be lucky if Nvidia finally decides to include DisplayPort 2.1 UHBR20 on gaming cards tho i dont expect any VRAM increases.
It will likely be the same meh generation as 20 series was.
Amyways…wondering if they plan to follow through with the lower price as it has been rumored before, like the rumored 500 bucks unit with better performance than the current 7900xtx.Sometimes we gamers ignore the fact that we are not the biggest money makers of these companies. I dont like it but understand why a company with still limited budget will dedicate more of that money to enterprise components, like zen 5.Lord, this again. It’s tiresome. I’m pretty sure that you dont care about how much power your intel/ngreedia combo is using when gaming.I love the idea of prices coming down, but given that everything has simply become more expensive, we shouldn’t expect the return to those prices of old. Hell, TSMC alone has raised the price per wafer a couple of times just in the last couple of years.
Again, dont get me wrong, i dont like the msrp of a 7900xtx anymore than the already overpriced 4090, but doubt we will see a negative adjustment in a meaningful way (lower prices)
$399 for the top model wouldn't be an example of prices going down considering RX 7700 sells even lower than that.
$299 for a 40+ CU model with 12GBs of VRAM wouldn't either, considering that RX 67x0 XT sells at that price range.
Anyway, as I said those prices I mentioned would be an indication that AMD wants to increase it's market share and it is ready to do a limited price war with Nvidia at the sub $500 market, while also maintaining a healthy advantage over the future Intel cards. If AMD doesn't have the wafer supply, or the will to try to increase it's market share, we can expect prices to be again relative to prices of Nvidia competing models.
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www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ad102.g1005
TSMC 5nm
Again, dont get me wrong, I would love lower prices, i just dont know how realistic that could be with today’s money devaluation. Maybe a small reduction, but seriously doubt we will get even near to what it used to be.
And i do wish to be wrong on that, for the sake of our pockets. :)
You seem to be under the impression that Nvidia already uses pure 4nm and thus there's now way they could possibly improve anything by moving to N4P?
I would like to remind you that both Kepler and Maxwell were produced on the same 28nm node with roughly 1,5 years apart.
Despite the same node Nvidia managed to:
Improve performance by 28% (780 Ti to 980 Ti).
Double the L2.
Quadruple the L1.
Increase transistor count by a billion (chip size increased by only 40mm² or 7,1%).
Double the VRAM within the same 250W power.
Increase both base and boost clocks.
Lower the price by $50.
There's a lot that can be done even on the same node. Even more on a two year newer node.
Would i as tech enthusiast be happy if they used 3nm for gaming cards? Yes of course i would. But im also a realist and gamers are not their biggest customers. Same with AMD and Intel.
www.eenewseurope.com/en/tsmc-begins-trial-2nm-production-for-apple-say-reports/
www.trendforce.com/news/2024/07/10/news-tsmc-reportedly-plans-to-commence-trial-production-for-apples-2nm-chips-next-week/
www.patentlyapple.com/2024/07/tsmc-is-set-to-begin-trial-production-of-2nm-chips-next-week-ahead-of-mass-production-in-2025-for-devices-like-the-iphone-17.html
All delays by AMD, nvidia or intel, and keeping the products on the older 7nm(6) and 5nm(4) will lead to declining sales, and users finding other areas where to spend money.
People primarily buy on price and performance. If the product is the same or lower price and higher performance with same or better efficiency then it sells regardless if the process node is same or not. Declining sales have been because there has been mostly bad pricing for most products and the economic situation is also not good which makes people decide twice before pulling the trigger.
2nm is years away. When words like trial and apple are thrown around then you know it will be years before big several hundred mm² chips could be produced on it with acceptable yields.
I would much more prefer at least flagship gaming cards move to HBM. This is not something that's just starting or super expensive (contrary to what others say). Even using older mass produced HBM3 (current is HBM3e and HBM4 next year) would offer advantages in terms of area, power and performance.
You are just losing your time, while he is probably just having fun.