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NVIDIA's RTX 5060 "Blackwell" Laptop GPU Comes with 8 GB of GDDR7 Memory Running at 28 Gbps, 25 W Lower TGP

In a recent event hosted by Chinese laptop manufacturer Hasee, company's chairman Wu Haijun unveiled exciting details about NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce RTX 5060 "Blackwell" laptop GPU. Attending the event was industry insider Golden Pig Upgrade, who managed to catch some details of the card set to launch next year. The RTX 5060 is expected to be the first in the market to feature GDDR7 memory, a move that aligns with earlier leaks suggesting NVIDIA's entire Blackwell lineup would adopt this new standard. This upgrade is anticipated to deliver substantial boosts in bandwidth and possibly increased VRAM capacities in other SKUs. Perhaps most intriguing is the reported performance of the RTX 5060. Wu said this laptop SKU could offer performance comparable to the current RTX 4070 laptop GPU. It's said to exceed the RTX 4070 in ray tracing scenarios and match or come close to its rasterization performance.

This leap in capabilities is made even more impressive by the chip's reduced power consumption, with a maximum TGP of 115 W compared to the RTX 4060's 140 W. The reported power efficiency gains are not exclusive to RTX 5060. Wu suggests that the entire Blackwell lineup will see significant reductions in power draw, potentially lowering overall system power consumption by 40 to 50 watts in many Blackwell models. While specific technical details remain limited, it's believed the RTX 5060 will utilize the GB206 GPU die paired with 8 GB of GDDR7 memory, likely running at 28 Gbps in its initial iteration.
Source: via Wccftech
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91 Comments on NVIDIA's RTX 5060 "Blackwell" Laptop GPU Comes with 8 GB of GDDR7 Memory Running at 28 Gbps, 25 W Lower TGP

#76
Onasi
@R0H1T
I was talking specifically about GDDR. HBM has its own rules and standards. It’s different since there it’s eight 128-bit channels per stack for HBM and HBM2 and sixteen 64-bit ones for HBM3 onward. So it always comes down to 1024-bit memory bus per stack. Total width therefore is based on the number of said stacks.
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#77
R0H1T
I guess it's understandable if that's something which is simply not possible with GDDR7 as of now. Also who knows maybe Nvidia will do a 96/192 bit 24GB 5060/Ti on the desktop just to spite critics like with 3070/3060 just a while back?
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#78
Prima.Vera
Funny how I still can play ANY possible game out there on FULL details and Ultra textures, without any hiccups, with my RTX 3080 with "just" 10GB of VRAM.
Even funnier is that my VRAM usage, as shown by RivaTuner, never goes more than 80% in any of the games...
And yes, I play natively on 3K resolution, or 3440x1440.
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#79
watzupken
While the TGP seems lower on Blackwell, but in reality, the existing RTX 4070 and 4060 are hard limited to about 90 to 100W in games. So I see no improvement here really.
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#80
Minus Infinity
I get this is a laptop but 5060 mobile option won't be cheap, so I think it would be reasonable to expect my expensive laptop to play 1080p with a lot of quality settings maxed. But for that you'll need to spend a lot more for the 12GB 5070 mobile part.

Next year GDDR7 with 3GB/32bit modules comes out, so you will be able to offer 12GB on 128bit bus, 18GB on 192bit bus, 24GB on 256bit bus etc. I wonder if they'll offer those options on both laptop and desktop parts. Wouldn't mind seeing a 5080 with 24GB
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#81
Apocalypsee
Lowering TGP is good but, laptop manufacturer LOVE to abuse this by putting dinky heatsink and fan that is lower than the advertised TGP rating because 'This laptop is 1mm thinner than the old one!!11one' and really, even my 3050 mobile would scales better with higher TGP but alas its limited by cooler and rating that's been set in VBIOS.
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#82
igormp
Minus InfinityNext year GDDR7 with 3GB/32bit modules comes out, so you will be able to offer 12GB on 128bit bus, 18GB on 192bit bus, 24GB on 256bit bus etc. I wonder if they'll offer those options on both laptop and desktop parts. Wouldn't mind seeing a 5080 with 24GB
I doubt it. Nvidia has great market segmentation between their consumer em dc/workstation parts by just using different vram amounts because that's the most limiting factor for tons of workloads.

Slap 12 or 16GB of vram in a 5060 and it'll now be called a RTX B2000 that costs 3x more.
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#83
Onasi
@Minus Infinity
We might see more playing around with 3 and 6 gig chips on the inevitable refreshes. The first wave of GDDR7 is all 2 gig dies and I assume the orders have been placed way in advance, so NV is working with what they have.
Hell, they might just again ignore such concerns - GDDR6 also had 1.5 and 3 gig density in spec and those were shown, but apparently nobody was particularly interested and so no real mass production happened.
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#84
wolf
Better Than Native
OnasiWe might see more playing around with 3 and 6 gig chips on the inevitable refreshes
I really hope so, moving from 2GB to 3GB, or even down to 1.5GB can give us 12GB cards on 128-bit bus, 18GB on 192-bit, and 24GB on 256-bit bus, seems like an easy win to increase VRAM by 50% instead of double without needing to go too hard on engineering trickery.
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#85
A&P211
OnasiNah, it’s alive, just in a different form. It’s basically, and forgive me if I am getting this wrong, is now a low power mode that ALL laptop GPUs possess instead of being a separate GPU SKU. And also a shit-ton of other “power saving” tech. Even NV seems to basically have no idea what it is anymore. But it is “AI powered”, so you know it’s good, right?
Again, the name Max-q thing was stopped being used some years ago.
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#86
Onasi
A&P211Again, the name Max-q thing was stopped being used some years ago.
It rebranded, as I mentioned. I admitted already that it isn’t in the GPU name as a separate SKU, but it’s not gone as a concept. There are still low tuned TGP mode models, it just isn’t explicitly marked in the branding. If you disagree - take it up with NVidia, here is their official statement:

Max-Q branding is not going away.
When we originally introduced Max-Q back in 2017, the brand was initially used in GPU naming since Max-Q referred to the GPU TGP only.
Today, 3rd Generation Max-Q is broader, and is a holistic set of platform technologies and design approach to building powerful and thin laptops.
In addition, to be more transparent about a laptop’s exact capabilities, RTX 30 Series laptops now show more information than ever, listing exact TGP, clocks and features supported. You will find this in the control panel which now reports maximum power (TGP+Boost), and support for key features including Dynamic Boost 2, WhisperMode 2, Advanced Optimus, and others, all of which fall under the Max-Q umbrella.
We strongly encourage OEMs to list clocks and other technologies a laptop supports, including Advanced Optimus, Dynamic Boost 2, and more. Ultimately, like all laptop features and specs, it is up to the OEM to market what their particular laptop configuration supports.


Source: HotHardware
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#87
Prima.Vera
Why tf do you need 24GB of VRAM?? For what?? Even if you play on 8K with 8K textures you still won't be able to fill the VRAM.
And I'm talking about actually using the VRAM, not just caching it, like most of the engines are doing it nowadays.
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#88
Lewzke
Even at
igormpThey did mention CUDA stuff, if they're running any kind of large-ish ML model, VRAM often is a pretty major limitation compared to raw compute.
Even with 12GB you have a very limited space for LLM models, so he was right 5060 is a significant jump in performance, but I think still that 8GB VRAM is not that promising, I expected 12.
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#89
Dimitriman
I see a lot of cope in these replies about the amount of VRam. If experience taught us anything about Nvidia, it was two things: 1) They will overcharge this to new heights due to no competition from AMD, and 2) if we don't ask for better, they will absolutely not give us better.

We need to demand better from Nvidia. Especially for the amount of money they keep demanding from us.
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#90
Quicks
Nvidia is taking their loyal customers for idiots. They know if they future proof their products then you might skip one generation and they don't want that. They want to keep upgrading every generation.

5060 Laptop or Desktop GPU regardless 12 GB Vram minimum. 5070 must start with 16 GB Vram and 5080 20 GB Vram, and lastly 5090 with 24 GB Vram. That seems fair.
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#91
Vayra86
x60 laptop class GPUs were always, will always be and are today typical 'Fools and Money parted' territory.

Just get an IGP and face the fact you're not buying a 'gaming' laptop here. I've had my share of this class of laptops and it was all unfiltered poop. You can not game on this class of GPUs. Get an IGP and save money, or spend big on something that does run a game proper. Get a Steam Deck alongside a 500 dollar laptop and you have the same 1K dollar spent but then you have two devices, of which the gaming device doesn't drain your battery in a half hour while your non gaming device can be thin and light and excellent for anything that isn't gaming.

/thread really.
And also /discussion over 8GB on this class of cards. People... this is a lying piece of shit product what do you expect. Shouldn't even be called Geforce.
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