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Seasonic Launches the New PRIME PX-2200 Power Supply

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Sep 23rd, 2024 04:15 Discuss (39 Comments)

After a successful product introduction during Computex 2024, Sea Sonic is now launching the sales of the new PRIME PX-2200 power supply. The Seasonic PRIME Series represents Sea Sonic's pinnacle of engineering, blending cutting-edge design with premium materials and advanced production processes. The latest models showcase digital fan control, modern interleaved PFC (Power Factor Correction), and a patented dual-transformer design running in parallel.

Seasonic's Latest Power Milestone Unveiled
The PRIME PX-2200 stands out above all PRIME units by capable of delivering an impressive 2200 watts of power at 80 Plus Platinum EU 230 V levels. Catering to a wide range of power users, this ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1 compatible powerhouse delivers top-quality power combined with long-term reliability for various high-performance applications.

Powering the AI Revolution
As Artificial Intelligence (AI) continues to advance, there is a growing demand for high-end components that consume increasing amounts of power. For future-proofing PCs and workstations geared towards AI computing, AI drawing, and edge computing tasks, the Seasonic PRIME PX-2200 emerges as the optimal choice.

Specifications:

ATX 3.1 and PCIe 5.1
80 Plus Platinum EU 230 V
Fully Modular Cabling Design
Two Native 12V-2x6 Cables
Two 2x8-pin to 12V-2x6 Cables
135 mm Fluid Dynamic Bearing (FDB) Fan
Digital Hybrid Fan Control
Highly Reliable Japanese 105°C Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors
Micro Tolerance Load Regulation @ 1 %
Cable-free Connection Design
12 years warranty
AC Input Range:
200 - 240 Vac only

Availability and Price

China: Available, Europe: end of September / October 2024, North America: N/A, ROW: End of Q3 2024 onwards
N/A (USA) / €579.90 (Europe) / $499.99 (ROW)

Source: Seasonic

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39 Comments on Seasonic Launches the New PRIME PX-2200 Power Supply

Gigaherz

A sad 4x8pin pcie connectors. Would be a nice Multi gpu psu otherwise.

AusWolf

GigaherzA sad 4x8pin pcie connectors. Would be a nice Multi gpu psu otherwise.

I don't get it. There's 9 CPU/PCI-e outputs, but only 3 CPU and 4 PCI-e cables (a total of 7). Not what I'd expect from a bazillion dollar, jiggawatt PSU from Seasonic.

Dammeron

AusWolfI don't get it. There's 9 CPU/PCI-e outputs, but only 3 CPU and 4 PCI-e cables (a total of 7). Not what I'd expect from a bazillion dollar, jiggawatt PSU from Seasonic.

There are additional two 2*8pin->12pin cables.

I wish Seasonic refreshed their 600-1000W portfolio, since most of those PSUs don't support the newest standards.

Gigaherz

DammeronThere are additional two 2*8pin->12pin cables.

Exactly thats the Problem.

lepudruk

Why they keep multiplying the names for 12V PCI-E socket? First it was 12VHPWR, then 12V2x6, now Seasonic uses "PCIe Gen 5". It gets really cofusing..

csendesmark

This one is an Absolute UNIT :D

Onasi

I am not sure what the GPU connector issue is. You can potentially hook up up to FOUR GPUs with provided connectors. How much more multi GPU can you get?
Or is this “12V 2x6 bad” striking again? Because I would be willing to bet that all next gen GPUs, yes, AMD too, will use the connector.

Gigaherz

OnasiI am not sure what the GPU connector issue is.

Only one 8 pin instead of two 6+2s per string.
So you can use 4 newer Gpus which no one can afford, but only really have legacy support for two older cards as most gpus use two adapters per unit.
Two "12v" and the rest 6+2 would have made much more sense.

And dont pretend like the 12v-high-failure-adapter is not trash. It needs to go.

AusWolf

OnasiI am not sure what the GPU connector issue is. You can potentially hook up up to FOUR GPUs with provided connectors. How much more multi GPU can you get?

Look at the number of cables attached. There's 9 CPU/PCI-e sockets, but only 4 8-pin cables in the box. That's 600 W (675 W with slot power) in total. What do you need the other connectors and 2.2 kW for if you don't have cables to use it all?

Not that I can think of any way I could build a home PC that eats 2.2 kW, but that's besides the point.

OnasiOr is this “12V 2x6 bad” striking again? Because I would be willing to bet that all next gen GPUs, yes, AMD too, will use the connector.

No, it's the naming. Seasonic now calls it "PCI-e gen 5" for some reason.

Besides, AMD is leaving the high-end with RDNA 4. The top dog is rumoured to be around 250 W. They have no reason to use the connector on it and alienate a portion of the potential buyer base.

#10

_roman_

lepudrukWhy they keep multiplying the names for 12V PCI-E socket? First it was 12VHPWR, then 12V2x6, now Seasonic uses "PCIe Gen 5". It gets really cofusing..

There was some difference in the mechanical and electrical dimensions.

That PCIE 5.0 bullshit makes other marketing stupdity people also. There is no PCI Express BUS as far as i know in power supply units. Feel free to correct me with the datasheet and application notes from a well known power supply unit manufacturer like seasonic and so on. Basically fraud as there is no pci bus in it. I have one such psu, there is no possibility to physically put in my Radeon 7800XT in that psu with the 16 lanes pcie connector.

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The picture claims 100-240 VAC, the text claims:

AC Input Range:
200 - 240 Vac only

#11

Onasi

GigaherzSo you can use 4 newer Gpus which no one can afford, but only really have legacy support for two older cards as most gpus use two adapters per unit.

I am sure that people buying a new top of the line specialized PSU are dirt poor and can’t afford their GPUs. Makes sense.

GigaherzAnd dont pretend like the 12pin high failure adapter is not trash. It needs to go.

Nobody managed to make the revised 2x6 fail even deliberately. It’s a non issue. The revision fixed the problem that was causing the failures.

AusWolfLook at the number of cables attached. There's 9 CPU/PCI-e sockets, but only 4 8-pin cables in the box. That's 600 W (675 W with slot power) in total. What do you need the other connectors and 2.2 kW for if you don't have cables to use it all?

Your math is off. There are two 2x6 cables AND two 8-pin to 2x6. So just with the 2x6 ones you can connect up to 1200W of GPU potentially. This is not counting 8-pin at all. And the CPU can be power hungry too, anyone using mGPU nowadays is unlikely to run something desktop. More likely a TR system.

AusWolfNo, it's the naming. Seasonic now calls it "PCI-e gen 5" for some reason.

Because the connector is adopted as part of PCI-e 5.x spec.

#12

AusWolf

OnasiYour math is off. There are two 2x6 cables AND two 8-pin to 2x6. So just with the 2x6 ones you can connect up to 1200W of GPU potentially. This is not counting 8-pin at all. And the CPU can be power hungry too, anyone using mGPU nowadays is unlikely to run something desktop. More likely a TR system.

You're not gonna use GPUs with both the old and new connectors in the same system. I mean, yes, you can have two 4090s and a 7900 XTX, and have one 8-pin cable spare, but why would you? And it's still only 1255 W in total. A power-hungry CPU is another 300-350 W, so we're totalling at 1.6 kW at the CPU+GPU even with the above, highly unrealistic config. You can't do a lot more than 1.2 kW with a system that actually makes sense with this cable layout.

OnasiBecause the connector is adopted as part of PCI-e 5.x spec.

Really? Isn't it called 12V HPWR or something?

#13

Onasi

AusWolfReally? Isn't it called 12V HPWR or something?

12VHPWR is the old one. 12V-2x6 is the revised one.
www.techpowerup.com/310761/12vhpwr-connector-said-to-be-replaced-by-12v-2x6-connector?cp=5

AusWolfYou're not gonna use GPUs with both the old and new connectors in the same system. I mean, yes, you can have two 4090s and a 7900 XTX, and have one 8-pin cable spare, but why would you? And it's still only 1255 W in total. A power-hungry CPU is another 300-350 W, so we're totalling at 1.6 kW at the CPU+GPU even with the above, highly unrealistic config. You can't do a lot more than 1.2 kW with a system that actually makes sense with this cable layout.

...I think you misunderstand something. The 8-pin end of the connector is going INTO THE PSU. Into two of those CPU/PCIe ports. Not the GPU.

#14

Dammeron

AusWolfYou're not gonna use GPUs with both the old and new connectors in the same system. I mean, yes, you can have two 4090s and a 7900 XTX, and have one 8-pin cable spare, but why would you? And it's still only 1255 W in total. A power-hungry CPU is another 300-350 W, so we're totalling at 1.6 kW at the CPU+GPU even with the above, highly unrealistic config. You can't do a lot more than 1.2 kW with a system that actually makes sense with this cable layout.

If You use it with two 4090s and one 7900XTX then You'll have plenty left - 4090s take both of native 12V-2x6 connections, while 7900 XTX gets at most three 8pin PCIe. Another 2 of those go to the motherboard so that leaves five 8pin outputs to spare. You could eg. use another 2 nVidia GPUs with it.

#15

Abby Normal

Could we just not send close to 200A over one rail? Despite the 12pin cables' best efforts, turning PSUs into an arc welders is best continued to be avoided.

#16

TheDeeGee

AusWolfI don't get it. There's 9 CPU/PCI-e outputs, but only 3 CPU and 4 PCI-e cables (a total of 7). Not what I'd expect from a bazillion dollar, jiggawatt PSU from Seasonic.

It's fool proofing for people like you, so you can't plug in ALL the cables and overload the rail.

#17

Dr. Dro

_roman_There was some difference in the mechanical and electrical dimensions.

That PCIE 5.0 bullshit makes other marketing stupdity people also. There is no PCI Express BUS as far as i know in power supply units. Feel free to correct me with the datasheet and application notes from a well known power supply unit manufacturer like seasonic and so on. Basically fraud as there is no pci bus in it. I have one such psu, there is no possibility to physically put in my Radeon 7800XT in that psu with the 16 lanes pcie connector.

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The picture claims 100-240 VAC, the text claims:

Power supplies of this capacity cannot operate on a regular 100V AC line. The current load is too high. Specialty wiring and breaker is required to operate low voltage mains with devices that use this much power (for example, electric showers have a circuit all their own). This is why it's specifically rated for 230V AC mains. This is just a render of the power supply, or a preproduction unit using the housing of another model.

GigaherzAnd dont pretend like the 12v-high-failure-adapter is not trash. It needs to go.

Oh yeah it's definitely going to "go" - go be deployed on practically every GPU from here on out, that is. Including AMD's ;)

#18

Rais

A couple of watts more and we're gonna have SF6 sealed PSU.

#19

freeagent

Needs a dryer plug to run in North America..

#20

evernessince

OnasiNobody managed to make the revised 2x6 fail even deliberately.

Replicating the issue with the 12VHPWR connector was difficult too. GN only managed to do so unintentionally, all instances of the issue came from the public.

Just because it isn't receiving media attention doesn't mean it isn't happening or couldn't happen.

OnasiIt’s a non issue. The revision fixed the problem that was causing the failures.

12V2X6 only fixes one mode of failure for the connector, specifically it's ability to draw power when not fully seated. It does not fix the issue where bending the cable spreads the pins out leading to a potential runaway thermal scenario. It also doesn't fix the low safety margins. Pretty important given the 4090 already pushes those and the 5090 is slated to draw even more power.

Regardless of how rare people think the issues are, it is still an issue that prior connectors didn't have.

#21

_roman_

I had a bad power supply. To determine a power supply issue I bought another power supply unit from another brand to crosstest
For some reason some cables went loose while doing the cable management from the new power supply unit.
I crosstested with the cables from the bad power supply to see if the retention force was similar.

It's not always the user fault when new cables from the power supply unit are not in specifications.
In my case they did not had the retention force. Visually I could not see any differences. ~~I do have the old and the new replacement cable set.~~

Therefore I knew the retention force was obvious defective and made a quality email claim to the psu manufacturer. I instantly got a new cable set for free.

This happened around 1.5 years ago with a brand with 5 years guarantee on psu.

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It's just a matter of cables.

There are government regulations here which determines the cable type, wall socket type and so on.

I'll wait and see if AMD is smart enough to use existing cables or go with the NVIDIA plug. I would recommend AMD to not go with the NVIDIA GPU PSU Plug. I have one PSU with that plug lying around. I'm not that happy about the physical dimension of that plug

#22

dont whant to set it"'

You just don't get it now , do you?
As per the picture, it comes with just4 PCIe straight 8(6+2) because of Mr little green troll need of attention .
Where the 12 to 16 8pin ones(not accounting for EPS8 or 4+4)? No dayisychain -piggyback nonsense, nevermind , I got my fix for those .000001% extreme scenarios.

#23

Makaveli

DammeronI wish Seasonic refreshed their 600-1000W portfolio, since most of those PSUs don't support the newest standards.

This.

i'm sticking with my current PSU for now and won't go newer until they clean this up.

#24

Zareek

freeagentNeeds a dryer plug to run in North America.

You wouldn't find a proper power cord for that. You need a NEMA 14-20/L14-20 outlet which does 240v at 20 amps. I've never seen them in a home, but they are pretty common in server rooms.

#25

evernessince

_roman_I had a bad power supply. To determine a power supply issue I bought another power supply unit from another brand to crosstest
For some reason some cables went loose while doing the cable management from the new power supply unit.
I crosstested with the cables from the bad power supply to see if the retention force was similar.

It's not always the user fault when new cables from the power supply unit are not in specifications.
In my case they did not had the retention force. Visually I could not see any differences. ~~I do have the old and the new replacement cable set.~~

Therefore I knew the retention force was obvious defective and made a quality email claim to the psu manufacturer. I instantly got a new cable set for free.

This happened around 1.5 years ago with a brand with 5 years guarantee on psu.

--

It's just a matter of cables.

There are government regulations here which determines the cable type, wall socket type and so on.

I'll wait and see if AMD is smart enough to use existing cables or go with the NVIDIA plug. I would recommend AMD to not go with the NVIDIA GPU PSU Plug. I have one PSU with that plug lying around. I'm not that happy about the physical dimension of that plug

Especially important for the 12VHPWR and 12V2X6 cables given they have tighter manufacturing tolerances. There is a greater chance of manufacturing defects leading to catastrophic failure.

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