Tuesday, October 15th 2024

Alleged AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Announcement and Availability Dates Revealed

AMD is allegedly announcing its Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor on October 25, with availability in the first week of November 2024. This according to leaky taps among Chinese tech forums with a track record of getting such details right. We've been hearing about an October launch of the 9800X3D in late-September, which puts the announcement just a month after the 9800X3D's early launch first hit the radar. We've since seen a couple of performance or specs leaks, such as this one, which talks about a significant increase in clock speeds over past generations of X3D processors, this one which points to its Cinebench scores, and this one, which confirms a 5.20 GHz all-core boost frequency. Perhaps the biggest leak of them all, which is quasi-official, as it comes from a major PC hardware manufacturer, is this one, with some performance testing. When you cross-reference these numbers with Intel's first party gaming performance claims for its upcoming Core Ultra 9 285K "Arrow Lake-S" processor, you get the hint that AMD is set to win this round for gaming performance.
Source: harukaze5719 (Twitter)
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67 Comments on Alleged AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Announcement and Availability Dates Revealed

#1
kondamin
Gee why did they pick that date I wonder
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#2
Klemc
AI'll upgrade, no, ia'll keep my 7800 !!
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#3
AusWolf
KlemcAI'll upgrade, no, ia'll keep my 7800 !!
I don't think it's meant for 7800X3D owners in the first place. That +200 MHz max single-core boost doesn't seem like a worthy upgrade. But let's hope that its price will be right so that it'll be a nice bump for people on Zen 2/3.
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#4
beautyless
Pretty sure, it gonna be the best gaming CPU for this generation.
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#5
Klemc
beautylessPretty sure, it gonna be the best gaming CPU for this generation.
It's one reason for being hated, bc it's not cheap and does well (verry verry verry) only gaming, the x3d.
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#6
Sarajiel
AMD is allegedly announcing its Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor on October 25
Seriously, AMD's marketing department needs to grow a pair or two... :banghead:

Paperlaunching your new CPU on Oct., 22nd with a live press event where all the journalists and influencers get their hand-signed golden press samples without review embargo, would be the thing I'd like to see. This would be so hilarious to see Gamer Jesus and his YouTuber friends fall all over each other to get some comparisons with the 9800X3D into their Core 200K launch reviews. :rockout:

Although, I'd guess that the AMD pricing will also be quite hilarious if the non-X3D parts are an indicator... Do we start at as little as $550 or maybe even at $600?
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#7
dj-electric
KlemcIt's one reason for being hated, bc it's not cheap and does well (verry verry verry) only gaming, the x3d.
X3D chips being hated is a new one for me. Since when do what seems like the most highly praised gaming CPUs in recent history (by both users and reviewers) being hated is a thing? Where did this come from?
SarajielPaperlaunching your new CPU on Oct., 22nd with a live press event where all the journalists and influencers get their hand-signed golden press samples without review embargo, would be the thing I'd like to see. This would be so hilarious to see Gamer Jesus and his YouTuber friends fall all over each other to get some comparisons with the 9800X3D into their Core 200K launch reviews. :rockout:
For how long would reviewers need to work on heavy statistics debunking those dated alleged "golden press sample" claims before there would be people who believe that their samples go through a similar validation and statistical quality as retail chips do? Also - is information users can use to get an educated decision between products bad? What's "hilarious" about this? Would you rather prefer we'd have no performance data from tech press at all before making a decision?
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#8
Sarajiel
dj-electricFor how long [...]
Didn't expect that I have to use sarcasm tags... :wtf:
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#9
SL2
SarajielAlthough, I'd guess that the AMD pricing will also be quite hilarious if the non-X3D parts are an indicator... Do we start at as little as $550 or maybe even at $600?
Most clueless guess of the week lol.

If ALL 9000 CPU's launched at a lower price than the first four 7000 models, why would new 3D models go up?
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#10
dj-electric
SL2Most clueless guess of the week lol.

If ALL 9000 CPU's launched at a lower price than the first four 7000 models, why would new 3D models go up?
I would expect such chip, if exists, to come out at 7800X3D's MSRP at the lowest. I wouldn't expect it to come out cheaper considering the circumstances.
AMD is in a position to offer the politically correct best gaming performance CPU on the market and my bet is that they are going to bank on it.

AMD's pricing strategy is to keep their lips sealed under very close to launch. More often than not reviewers don't even have the product's final pricing until 24-72 hours before that very product becomes available. That's how tight AMD is making price assessments to their products. I assume they want to properly gauge 285K's gaming value before setting a price as high as they can.
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#11
rattlehead99
SL2Most clueless guess of the week lol.

If ALL 9000 CPU's launched at a lower price than the first four 7000 models, why would new 3D models go up?
Not true, the 7700 non-X(65W 8 core Zen4) is currently 260-270$ while the 9700x(65W 8 core Zen5) is 360$ for being 0-10% faster. The price at launch doesn't matter when the current price of Zen4 is much lower than at launch.
The same goes for all models really. The 7600 non-X is 200$ and the 9600x is 280$ again for a 0-10% difference in performance. The 7900 non-X is 370$ the 9900x is 450$.
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#12
SL2
rattlehead99The price at launch doesn't matter when the current price of Zen4 is much lower than at launch.
Yes it does if you're trying to guess the launch price of the upcoming model. You didn't even bother to read what I replied to.

Try to keep up instead of changing the subject and then calling me a liar lol.
dj-electricI would expect such chip, if exists, to come out at 7800X3D's MSRP at the lowest. I wouldn't expect it to come out cheaper considering the circumstances.
Sure, but it won't be $550, that's hilarious.

I replied to the comment "AMD pricing will also be quite hilarious if the non-X3D parts are an indicator" when in fact launch prices has come down... the opposite of what was suggested.
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#13
Carillon
rattlehead99Not true, the 7700 non-X(65W 8 core Zen4) is currently 260-270$ while the 9700x(65W 8 core Zen5) is 360$ for being 0-10% faster. The price at launch doesn't matter when the current price of Zen4 is much lower than at launch.
The same goes for all models really. The 7600 non-X is 200$ and the 9600x is 280$ again for a 0-10% difference in performance. The 7900 non-X is 370$ the 9900x is 450$.
He was clearly comparing launch prices. And assumed the x3d chips would also launch at a lower MSRP than what the 7000x3d chips launched for.
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#14
SL2
CarillonAnd assumed the x3d chips would also launch at a lower MSRP than what the 7000x3d chips launched for.
Not exactly, I expect it to be about the same.

$550 - 600 is just bananas tho. Where would that put the 16 core? $900? No way. Prices will probably be close to last time.
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#15
csendesmark
I will stick to my regular.
I know it is not the 9950X3D yet.
As I understand the original is better when you use 100% CPU on 16+threads.
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#16
rattlehead99
CarillonHe was clearly comparing launch prices. And assumed the x3d chips would also launch at a lower MSRP than what the 7000x3d chips launched for.
This only matters if the new chip is much faster than the old chip, at around the same performance they should cost no more than 10% more than the current price of the older chip.
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#17
rattlehead99
SL2Yes it does if you're trying to guess the launch price of the upcoming model. You didn't even bother to read what I replied to.

Try to keep up instead of changing the subjectand calling me a liar lol.



Sure, but it won't be $550, that's hilarious.

I replied to the comment "AMD pricing will also be quite hilarious if the non-X3D parts are an indicator" when in fact launch prices has come down... the opposite of what was suggested.
I didn't call you a liar, but I didn't know what you were replying to. Still launch prices don't matter if the new product isn't much better than the old.
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#18
AusWolf
rattlehead99I didn't call you a liar, but I didn't know what you were replying to. Still launch prices don't matter if the new product isn't much better than the old.
Why wouldn't price matter? Do you think only 7800X3D owners will be looking at upgrading? In my opinion, 7800X3D owners are exactly the people who should avoid Zen 5. There's no point in spending any money for +200 MHz, but for people on older systems, it might be a nice bump.
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#19
Klemc
dj-electricX3D chips being hated is a new one for me. Since when do what seems like the most highly praised gaming CPUs in recent history (by both users and reviewers) being hated is a thing? Where did this come from?


For how long would reviewers need to work on heavy statistics debunking those dated alleged "golden press sample" claims before there would be people who believe that their samples go through a similar validation and statistical quality as retail chips do? Also - is information users can use to get an educated decision between products bad? What's "hilarious" about this? Would you rather prefer we'd have no performance data from tech press at all before making a decision?
It appeard when there has been the scandal about Intel big 13xxx-14xxx failure, one person here always arguing about this CPU being a powertoy, that a 12xxx beats.
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#20
SL2
rattlehead99I didn't call you a liar,
You said not true, as in telling a lie.
rattlehead99but I didn't know what you were replying to.
Can't help you there. Hint: read before posting
rattlehead99Still launch prices don't matter if the new product isn't much better than the old.
YES IT DOES if you're trying to guess launch price.

Stop changing subject and kicking in open doors. We all know what Zen5 is (not) capable of, we've seen the reviews over and over again lol

Here's a thread with all the complaints for you. I've posted my fair share there

www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/why-everyone-say-zen-5-is-bad.325345/
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#21
Klemc
World's falling, prices are rising, i'm sure it will be high priced compared to 7800x3d.
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#22
atomsymbol
SL2$550 - 600 is just bananas tho. Where would that put the 16 core? $900? No way. Prices will probably be close to last time.
Evolution of CPU prices after launch is determined by market forces. AMD's MSRP is just a suggested price. Ryzen 7800X3D is today above MSRP and costs almost the same as 7950X. Thus, $550 market price for 9800X3D at launch is realistic. If 9800X3D started selling at the same (or lower) price as 7800X3D, then it would immediately cause oversupply of 7800X3D CPUs, which in turn would either cause 9800X3D's price to go up or 7800X3D's price to go down.
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#23
Nater
14900KS is north of $600. Why do you guys think the 9800X3D can't surpass that? A CPU nobody wants vs one everyone does.

Even if the MSRP/ESRP is palatable, scalpers and demand/supply will make it a luxury item this holiday season.
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#25
Klemc
Nater14900KS is north of $600. Why do you guys think the 9800X3D can't surpass that? A CPU nobody wants vs one everyone does.

Even if the MSRP/ESRP is palatable, scalpers and demand/supply will make it a luxury item this holiday season.
Pure gamers would pay more if it was the price, i'm sure, others people, no.
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