N3utroWhat you are talking about is not just about Intel, in any company when you go "high up" enough at some point it becomes about if you share the vision of the directors above you or not.

Sure and I have admittedly not followed that many companies so closely, but at Intel it wasn't happening "behind closed doors" as it played out in the public, which is bad in so many ways and it keeps playing out in public. Also, this was more of an issue that the visionaries got kicked out and the bean counters took over, which is part of the reason for both the stagnation and the rather bizarre takeovers of things like McAfee. I will never understand the synergy someone saw there.

I guess I didn't realise he was still at Intel, but Mooly Eden was a really interesting guy at trade shows, events and round tables, he was a really good presenter and he got shoved in a corner 2015 and hasn't really been seen in public since. There was reports of him leaving, but his LinkedIn says otherwise. It's the kind of person they should bring out in public again, as he knew his shit.

GF never have successfully experience on developing nodes. Their 14nm is licensed from Samsung and their 32nm/28nm is a disaster. Tom is 65 as well. This is purely rumor.

dyonoctisMy bad then, but a lot of Intel older presentation (for the now fabbed on external) arch made it look like going internal was the plan, until they realized that it couldn't happen.

I'm sorry, I didn't wanted to come off as harsh already. Just tried to point out, that they started to outsource majorly well prior to Gelsinger and that Pat did not started it.
Yes, they publicly claim to have Xyz fabbed internally, until the very last moment the SKU gets suddenly shifted over to TSMC again… Isn't that always so convenient?!

You don't need to apologise here, as being tricked into thinking exactly what you thought it would represent, was fully intentional all the way anyway.

Plot-twist: They already know very well in advance, what they publicly claim won't happen anyway – They often don't even have the mere intention to do so at any point in time!
Since them claiming to fab internally and only possibly as a last resort would outsource, you can bet that they know already by the time of making such claim, that their own node once again won't be ready in time and that they will outsource anyway – Them pulling that stunt is just for saving face (and especially their stock!), to protect their stock options!

Though, as you might have noticed: Intel has always been publicly stating/claiming one thing, while secretly doing the polar opposite – That's their status quo since years.

They claimed publicly, that their 10nm™ was about to ramp up by the end up 2015 – Yet knew internally perfectly well, that the process' condition wouldn't support such.
They claimed then by 2016, that ramp-up is imminent – Internally they knew absolutely, that their 10nm's state would surely not remotely be fit for any actual manufacturing.
They still claimed publicly the same for 2017 and promised actual products – Despite internally the state of the process was still FUBAR anyway, and they knew that.
They kept claiming through-out 2018 that any 10nm-products were just about to come – Internally they knew still better, that none of such was possible by any means.
They did the same on 7nm again, publicly – Yet somehow the new node was suddenly 6 months behind internal goals and actual 12 delayed, and they knew that in advance…

They also always were quick to publicly deny any rumours on anything outsourcing, later on the rumours more often than not became true regardless.
I hope you get the gist here…

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Anyhow, I guess you're more than capable of understanding, that—take for instance their disastrous yields of their 10nm™ by 2017—Intel just had to and in fact knew unquestionably for real already by 2015, that their yields were nothing but so ut-ter-ly abysmal and really non-existing, that none whatsoever kind of mass-manufacturing was anything but viable and thus completely out of question for the foreseeable future, right? Right.

The thing is, that said fact of given incapability to bring anything 10nm anytime soon—if it would have been known by others outside of Intel itself by then—was also plain to understand for everyone else even remotely understanding anything semiconductor-manufacturing, right? And for sure it was able to project especially for Intel itself, that nothing manufacturing was coming along anytime soon.