Wednesday, February 12th 2025

Burning Saga Continues, This Time it's an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU

A new case of catastrophic CPU failure has emerged involving AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor, marking the latest in a series of reported incidents within the last few days involving high-performance GPUs and CPUs. The failure occurred during routine use when a system equipped with the 9800X3D and an ASRock Nova X870E motherboard suddenly shut down, resulting in visible thermal damage to both components. The incident is particularly noteworthy as the system operated under stock settings, with only AMD EXPO memory optimization enabled. The affected user, who has two decades of PC building experience, reported that the system had been operational for approximately 20 days before the failure, with no temperature anomalies recorded through HWMonitor during its operation.

The hardware was running the ASRock BIOS version 3.16. This case differs significantly from the previous AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D failure, where user error during installation was identified as the primary cause, with the user force-installing the CPU in the socket. The timing of the failure—during a low-intensity workload of streaming video content—further complicates the investigation into root causes. While isolated cases of hardware failure are not uncommon in the PC component market, this case may be the first one caused entirely by the CPU/motherboard combination, not user error. The user also faces uncertainty regarding warranty coverage, as the CPU and motherboard were purchased separately from different retailers. We hope the warranty case goes well, and the user gets a replacement!
Sources: Reddit, via VideoCardz
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43 Comments on Burning Saga Continues, This Time it's an AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU

#26
rv8000
Looks to be vddcr pins. Afaik these are core voltage. I stick to my earlier assumption this is pbo gone bad, user cranking voltages with bad pins from the get go, or product defect combined with user slamming pbo/voltage.

Pinout
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#27
Visible Noise
How can this happen? Many posters in this forum have said that the hardware must be 100% idiot proof or it’s a failure!

I’m sure the outraged people will be here any minute to extend this thread out to 10 pages or more, right? Right??

Lol.
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#28
freeagent
rv8000Looks to be vddcr pins. Afaik these are core voltage. I stick to my earlier assumption this is pbo gone bad, user cranking voltages with bad pins from the get go, or product defect combined with user slamming pbo/voltage.

Pinout
PBO is safe..
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#29
AusWolf
freeagentPBO is safe..
PBO is different on every motherboard.
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#30
jsawz
mine died too. all new computer parts except gpu. used with 9800x3d and asrock x870 steel legend. stock settings. 3.16 asrock bios. I was playing yakuza infinite wealth on steam and all of a sudden my game froze. the power button on the case didn't work and my pc wouldn't turn off. I had to turn it off via the switch in the back of the case. after this, I tried turning the pc on but won't display anything on my monitor. at this point I'm freaking out but calmly think it's my gpu since that's the only old component in this brand new rig. I order a 4060 and replace the gpu. still nothing. I notice a red light next to cpu on MB which equates to cpu dysfunction as per the motherboard manual. I've tried reseating my cpu, ram, clearing cmos. nothing at all. filled out rma on friday of last week. sent out the package yesterday...I hope they have replacement parts given it's sold out...anyone else experience similar issues or did an rma? how long did it take? I'll keep folks posted but man...really disappointing considering it's my first amd cpu
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#31
rv8000
freeagentPBO is safe..
PBO + scalar can result in high voltages, pretty sure there was a report or two on another forum with 9800x3d dying at 1.4v.

200mhz offset with a 10x scalar was allowing my cpu to use ~1.38v with no negative or positive offset, which gets you close to nothing when most 9800x3d max out at around 5.4-5.5ghz under normal air/aio conditions.

It’s well within the realm of possibility that this was due to dumb settings imo. Considering the burnt pins supply voltage to the cores, very believable.

But sure make a reply post with zero context, zero evidence, very beneficial to the conversation…
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#32
freeagent
Why use scalar?

Absolutely no need for it. You should not be running 1.38v for a heavy load.
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#33
rv8000
freeagentWhy use scalar?

Absolutely no need for it. You should not be running 1.38v for a heavy load.
I’m not, I was making a point it’s easy to feed way too much voltage to these chips with users pumping settings in the bios.

Because PBO is totally “safe”.
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#34
freeagent
rv8000I’m not, I was making a point it’s easy to feed way too much voltage to these chips with users pumping settings in the bios.

Because PBO is totally “safe”.
It is, just don't be stupid.
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#35
rv8000
freeagentIt is, just don't be stupid.
If you can’t see the irony in what you just posted, nothing to gain from explaining anything further.
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#36
freeagent
rv8000If you can’t see the irony in what you just posted, nothing to gain from explaining anything further.
Scalar is an advanced setting. If you know what it does, then use it. I personally have no need for scalar, it does not help.

It is not my fault that you do not know how to use PBO.
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#37
Neo_Morpheus
freeagentAMD driver problems are still active
Bad AMD drivers, again?

Lol

Now, talking about bad drivers, see how magically the horrible drivers of the current 50 series is barely mentioned.

I wonder why?

I know why, being sarcastic on my part.
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#38
Redwoodz
jsawzmine died too. all new computer parts except gpu. used with 9800x3d and asrock x870 steel legend. stock settings. 3.16 asrock bios. I was playing yakuza infinite wealth on steam and all of a sudden my game froze. the power button on the case didn't work and my pc wouldn't turn off. I had to turn it off via the switch in the back of the case. after this, I tried turning the pc on but won't display anything on my monitor. at this point I'm freaking out but calmly think it's my gpu since that's the only old component in this brand new rig. I order a 4060 and replace the gpu. still nothing. I notice a red light next to cpu on MB which equates to cpu dysfunction as per the motherboard manual. I've tried reseating my cpu, ram, clearing cmos. nothing at all. filled out rma on friday of last week. sent out the package yesterday...I hope they have replacement parts given it's sold out...anyone else experience similar issues or did an rma? how long did it take? I'll keep folks posted but man...really disappointing considering it's my first amd cpu
And you created your first post here to let us all know. How kind of you.
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#39
jsawz
yah. I used the cpu just fine for almost 3 months so I don't know what gives all of a sudden.
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#40
Visible Noise
RedwoodzAnd you created your first post here to let us all know. How kind of you.
Speaking of kindness, here‘s your first post (which was proven to be wrong)
Just because you don't comprehend does not make it nonsense. What he is saying is, we are continuing our relationship because they have shown they can meet our future demands,which was not always certain in the past.
Nice start you had.

Buh-bye
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#41
Caring1
More like a Super nova than a Nova :roll:
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#42
AusWolf
RedwoodzAnd you created your first post here to let us all know. How kind of you.
Visible NoiseSpeaking of kindness, here‘s your first post (which was proven to be wrong)

Nice start you had.

Buh-bye
Gosh, friendliness is through the roof here. I don't know why anyone would not want to come here for a chat. :rolleyes:
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#43
_roman_
I really wonder why I'm lenient enough to put those ngreedia guys not on the ignore list. Just don*t please. It's annoying to read the topic.

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Asus also destroyed AMD x3d cpus in the past in their mainboards. Let's stay on topic. It seems to be Asrock company. It seems to be asrock nova mainboard. It seems to be 9800x3d processor.
jsawzmine died too. all new computer parts except gpu. used with 9800x3d and asrock x870 steel legend. stock settings. 3.16 asrock bios. I was playing yakuza infinite wealth on steam and all of a sudden my game froze. the power button on the case didn't work and my pc wouldn't turn off. I had to turn it off via the switch in the back of the case. after this, I tried turning the pc on but won't display anything on my monitor. at this point I'm freaking out but calmly think it's my gpu since that's the only old component in this brand new rig. I order a 4060 and replace the gpu. still nothing. I notice a red light next to cpu on MB which equates to cpu dysfunction as per the motherboard manual. I've tried reseating my cpu, ram, clearing cmos. nothing at all. filled out rma on friday of last week. sent out the package yesterday...I hope they have replacement parts given it's sold out...anyone else experience similar issues or did an rma? how long did it take? I'll keep folks posted but man...really disappointing considering it's my first amd cpu
If you suspect a bad dedicated graphic card or mainboard setting:
Mainboard and cpu restraints apply. The 9800X3d should also have a intetraged cpu graphics like my 7600x with the asus x670 mainboard. some processords do nto have cpu graphics, some mainboards can not route to mainboard ports the cpu graphics.

there is no need to "order a 4060" (most likely nvidia 4060 graphic card implied) to check if a mainboard can post with mainboard + cpu + single ram stick + usb keyboard + monitor cable + 1x monitor.
POST = power on self test ... first thing a mainboard/uefi/bios usually does. (i wrote htis to educate on how to test for ... my box won't post. post is important before you can use your most likely windows operating system)
if that works you can add more compoents and go on to find the issue. Or test with well known, tested good parts. 100% working parts - not suspecting working parts. e.g. it helps to have a duplicate computer where you can swap parts with to check
AusWolfPBO is different on every motherboard.
i would also include the uefi - firmware version of the mainboard

i think after asus destroyed on "purpose" am5 processors some values were reduced or hidden behind other settings.
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