Saturday, March 29th 2008

Blizzard Sues Michael Donnelly Over his WoW Glider Bot

Blizzard is suing Michael Donnelly, the creator of the MMO Glider program, which performs key tasks in the game automatically, such as fighting and other game actions. Both sides have submitted legal summaries to the US District Court in Arizona. Blizzard says Glide is a software bot which infringes the company's copyright and potentially damages the game. In its legal submission to the court last week, the firm said: "Blizzard's designs expectations are frustrated, and resources are allocated unevenly, when bots are introduced into the WoW universe, because bots spend far more time in-game than an ordinary player would and consume resources the entire time." Blizzard argued that Michael Donnelly's tool also infringed the End User License Agreement that all parties have to adhere to when playing the game. As result Blizzard wants Michael Donnelly to stop selling Glider and return all profits that he made from its sales. More than 100,000 copies of the tool have been sold for the time being. Mr Donnelly says his tool does not infringe Blizzard's copyright because no "copy" of the Warcraft game client software is ever made. The two parties are now awaiting a summary judgement in the case.
Source: BBC NEWS
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72 Comments on Blizzard Sues Michael Donnelly Over his WoW Glider Bot

#51
Unregistered
its to scare other botters and gold sellers..it also a form of advertisement...its a way for more people to notice them...there is always more money to make :)
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#52
chron
WAAAA THEY WONT LET ME CHEAT WAAAA.

Stupid ass cheaters ruin games plain and simple. I've never played wow a day in my life, but I do hope blizzard makes this guy give his money back. I can't believe someone is actually making a living off cheating in wow.
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#53
Judas
Blizzard will lose
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#54
EastCoasthandle
chronWAAAA THEY WONT LET ME CHEAT WAAAA.

Stupid ass cheaters ruin games plain and simple. I've never played wow a day in my life, but I do hope blizzard makes this guy give his money back. I can't believe someone is actually making a living off cheating in wow.
Yup, have to agree here. Thats how some of these posts come off. Nothing is stopping Blizzard from a civil suit. Therefore, I don't see why some believe that a lack of a criminal act is sooooo important to them, :roll:.
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#55
Assimilator
For those who are unable to read:
BBC NewsBlizzard argued that Michael Donnelly's tool also infringed the End User License Agreement that all parties have to adhere to when playing the game.
The EULA is not the same as the ToS. The former is legally binding while the latter is not, and it's the EULA that Glider violates. Therefore, Blizzard is completely within their rights to sue Donelly.

Not only that, Glider is making money for Donelly, money that he wouldn't have if WoW did not exist. In other words, he is getting a free ride on top of all the time and money that Blizzard have invested in WoW, and in turn Blizzard gets nothing.

Finally, Glider is a bot - a program designed to allow you to cheat. Anyone who writes something like that is a dumbass; anyone who then goes and charges money for it is an absolute and utter moron.

Donnelly deserves to get beaten down, and hard - this isn't a big-guy-versus-little-guy case, it's right versus wrong, and Blizzard are in the right; not just legally, but because they're trying to eradicate a tool that allows people to cheat.
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#57
Megasty
Down with Blizzard! I have a nephew that plays WoW nearly 7hrs a day & bots the rest of the time. Cheating is one thing but donating your young life to a stupid game is another. No Blizzard, no WoW - no WoW, no WoW bot. Its that simple.
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#58
Unregistered
MegastyDown with Blizzard! I have a nephew that plays WoW nearly 7hrs a day & bots the rest of the time. Cheating is one thing but donating your young life to a stupid game is another. No Blizzard, no WoW - no WoW, no WoW bot. Its that simple.
sorry to tell you this but that is your nephews and his parents fault...don't blame others for there mistakes
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#59
panchoman
Sold my stars!
oh shit... i was scrolling and my mouse on the bli part made it look like wizzard sues and i was OMWTF :laugh:
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#60
thoughtdisorder
nguyenpeter76well if blizzard loses the public will know that bots arent "illegal" so they will be encouraged to buy it...
Whether one agrees or disagrees, what is, is. Perception is in fact reality. Both parties will emerge with a higher public awareness, which means it's a "win win". My point is not to argue what is right or wrong, only what is. I do not disagree with your statement whatsoever.
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#61
ex_reven
MegastyDown with Blizzard! I have a nephew that plays WoW nearly 7hrs a day & bots the rest of the time. Cheating is one thing but donating your young life to a stupid game is another. No Blizzard, no WoW - no WoW, no WoW bot. Its that simple.
I have to agree. Anything that excites me enough to spend 7 hours a day doing it non stop should be banned.

As a result I think that the government should put an immediate ban on breathing (plants included). Thats obviously the only solution to this respiratory obsession disorder.
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#62
Unregistered
SteevoNot that I play or would play WOW but this is crap that you play auto, your account should be banned, as it makes it unfair for those who play when they have time get killed or kicked around by peeps doing this. This is no better than having wall hacks or the like in CS or shield hacks in Halo, both make the game unplayable with certain servers/people, and killed Halo online.
My thoughts exactly.
#63
XooM
bots in wow have no impact on your gameplay. if anything, they enhance it. You don't feel like grinding out 10 primal airs, but the ones on the AH are stupidly overpriced (all 5 of them anyways)? Too bad no botter on your realm is botting primal air and selling them in volume, keeping price inflation sane and having a supply. Its not like he's got good gear or really anything over you, he's just getting gold the hard way while you zoom around doing your free gold dailies. He has no unfair advantage over you; in fact, he plays like he's retarded.

And no, blizzard does NOT have a leg to stand on. If they did, they would've been done with this case one and a half years ago, when it started.
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#64
ArkanHell
If blizzard wants to keep the quality of WoW they should make a stronger investment in security and monitoring the game play looking for boots and cheats.
I think that they wont be fault on maney to do that.
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#65
mdm-adph
XooMbots in wow have no impact on your gameplay. if anything, they enhance it. You don't feel like grinding out 10 primal airs, but the ones on the AH are stupidly overpriced (all 5 of them anyways)? Too bad no botter on your realm is botting primal air and selling them in volume, keeping price inflation sane and having a supply.
While I applaud you for thinking about the issue a bit, you have to realize your logic is a bit faulty. Bot's don't just farm items, they also create tons and tons of money in game.

In the end, this actually has the opposite effect on prices from what you'd think, since more available money in an economy will always lead to higher prices, not lower.
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#66
Unregistered
i dont hink enough people play mmo to understand the impact bots have
#67
TUngsten
AssimilatorFinally, Glider is a bot - a program designed to allow you to cheat. Anyone who writes something like that is a dumbass; anyone who then goes and charges money for it is an absolute and utter moron.

Donnelly deserves to get beaten down, and hard - this isn't a big-guy-versus-little-guy case, it's right versus wrong, and Blizzard are in the right; not just legally, but because they're trying to eradicate a tool that allows people to cheat.
Actually, I think it's quite brilliant. With all the Chinese WOW goldfarm sweatshops that Blizzard welcomes with open arms, how can anyone complain?

I totally understand Blizzard's concerns and the relevant concerns re: the economy.

But ultimately, I think that if the game was EXCITING to play to begin with (and not the grind-tastic idiotfest it is) there would be no need for bots. As it stands, there are so many mind-numbingly repetitive tasks in the game that I can totally understand the attraction to getting up in the morning to a few hundred gold. Hell, you pay a MONTHLY fee.

The whole idea that this is "cheating" in re: to automating the required repetitive tasks in the context of WOW is stupid.
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#68
XooM
mdm-adphWhile I applaud you for thinking about the issue a bit, you have to realize your logic is a bit faulty. Bot's don't just farm items, they also create tons and tons of money in game.

In the end, this actually has the opposite effect on prices from what you'd think, since more available money in an economy will always lead to higher prices, not lower.
nope; actually, bots are almost zero-sum, since 95% of the bot's gold comes from some other player buying his crap (5% comes from vendor trash, but a good chunk of that turns around and goes right back out as his repair bill). other players, on the other hand, who do quests (ie dailies), individually add hundreds and hundeds of gold the WoW economy daily :)


In any case, blizzard's policy in banning botters is largely a reactive one: you get reported because you're a bad botter? you get the banstick. However, they take economic exploitation much more seriously; if a botter dumps 500 medium leather on the auctionhouse and undercuts everybody else while doing so, he will get banned/suspended for economic exploitation.
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#69
PrudentPrincess
chronWAAAA THEY WONT LET ME CHEAT WAAAA.

Stupid ass cheaters ruin games plain and simple. I've never played wow a day in my life, but I do hope blizzard makes this guy give his money back. I can't believe someone is actually making a living off cheating in wow.
Yeah I think it's funny that people are singling this guy out because its easy but the thousands in China farming gold and the thousands in the US buying from them will never get sued.
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#70
Snake05
My old roommate use to use his Glider to make money instead of searching for a REAL job:shadedshu... As if WoW wasn't bad enough for the sad people addicted, realizing there is a way to make money off of the thing is drawing more than ever. WoW (Glider included) is going to be one of the root causes in the downfall of society....
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#72
BlueGreen026
Its as simple as this :

Playing Wow occasionally to fill up your free time : Nothing wrong here; you are simply doing something fun when you have nothing else to do. Besides its better than staring at the idiot box watching coronation street or something.

Playing Wow Moderately Not To Interfere with Real Life : So you play wow a couple of hours a day and maybe 3-4 hours on the weekend days. Still no problems here; perhaps you need to find some new activities to fill up your life as well but at least you can accomplish a lot of things in wow and compete with a lot of people.

Playing Wow A lot Filling Up Most of Free time : Okay you are playing wow a bit too much maybe; you really need to get out and do fun things. If your a hardworker and work hard its not so bad.

Playing Wow, Being Unemployed for Long Periods Each Week: So you play wow Semi Hardcore and your just a tier below the most hardcore players. Its important that you are at least getting a lot of fun out of the game or its pointless; but its important to sort our your real life and make sure you spend some time looking for work, etc... You are a bit of loser really.

Playing Wow Totally Unemployed None Stop : Ok your officially a hardcore loser you play Wow all the time and you rarely ever stop. You seriously need to start doing something else and forget about this game for a while; maybe quit altogether at least for a while.

Playing Wow Using Bots and Cheat Programs : I have to say, I really have to say what the hell is the point! You obviously get no fun out of the game and there is no sense of achievement whatsoever. If you dont have time to play wow and be the best then you cant be the best just live with it; I know the hardcore players cant be compete with but thats they way it is they are losers. But you the people who ruin the game for the general populace for free stuff your never earned are the Utter Lowest of the low! I mean the whole point of wow is making progress in different area's and having fun doing it! Whats the point in just arriving at the end game?
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