Friday, May 16th 2008

Creative Unveils X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Series PCI-E Sound Cards

Creative, a worldwide leader in digital entertainment products, today announces the PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series and PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series sound cards, unleashing the full power of Creative X-Fi hardware audio processing for PCI Express-based PCs.

The new PCI Express Creative sound cards each feature a striking design that screams "high performance." Creative will equip the world's best professional PC gamers, who are now competing in the Championship Gaming Series (CGS), with the new PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series, the official sound card of the CGS, the only worldwide professional video gaming league.

"Audio plays a huge factor in professional gaming, where every competitive advantage can make the difference between winning and losing. The Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty edition sound cards significantly enhance any professional gaming rig, enabling us to hear what we can't see and perform at our highest level," said Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel, world champion gaming legend and exclusive on-air analyst for the CGS.

"I demand extreme performance from my PC, and I won't settle for less than Sound Blaster X-Fi. It gives me the huge advantage of hearing my opponent before they can see me, and finishing them off before they can do anything about it," said Yazan "Clown" Ammari, Counter-Strike Source member of the San Francisco Optx CGS team.

"We've developed the PCI Express models of our Sound Blaster X-Fi gaming sound cards to meet the specific requests that we've received from end users," said Steve Erickson, VP and GM of audio and VLSI for Creative. "We have re-architected our X-Fi processor so we can deliver even more performance and provide the best audio available on the PC today. You'll know why it's worth the upgrade to PCI Express the second you hear it. We've also added Dolby Digital encoding, for connection to a home theater system for an awesome gaming experience. We created an entirely

new I/O drive with an innovative design that can fit either a 3 ½" or 5 ¼" drive bay. Plus, the Sound Blaster Titanium series cards are optimized for Windows Vista with UAA-compliant hardware."

The PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series features Dolby Digital encoding, for single-cable connection to home theater systems. The card leverages the power of the X-Fi processor optimized for PCI Express to deliver accelerated audio for improved game performance, with ultra-realistic EAX 5.0 effects and 3D positional audio. Hardware-powered 3D positional audio and EAX 5.0 effects provide stunning positional audio realism over headphones and speakers, for a much more immersive gaming experience than any motherboard audio solution can offer. The Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series also vastly improves voice chat clarity in online games where collaboration is vital.

"With its superb audio fidelity, EAX 5.0 support, and 128 hardware-accelerated voices, the Sound Blaster X-Fi is simply the best way to experience the rich soundscape of Guild Wars. Gamers who really care about how their PCs sound should give it a serious listen," said James Boer, ArenaNet audio programmer and Game Audio Programming author.

The new PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series sound card includes all of the features of the PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series, plus an internal I/O drive for quick front panel connection to headphones and headsets. This versatile internal I/O drive design offers the choice of placement in either a 3 ½" or 5 ¼" drive bay. The 3 ½" drive features mic-in and headphone-out connections. This drive slides inside the 5 ¼" drive, which adds RCA line-in connections.

The world's first native PCI Express hardware accelerated sound cards, the PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series and PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Championship Series sound cards also feature:
  • Creative X-Fi processor specifically designed for high-speed PCI Express slots in modern PCs
  • X-Fi Crystalizer technology, which leverages audio algorithms to intelligently and selectively determine how to restore the highs and lows from sound effects, instruments and vocals and voices that were damaged or diminished during the MP3, AAC, game audio or other compression processes
  • X-Fi CMSS-3D technology, to create virtual surround sound through speakers or headphones in games or music. In games, you hear your opponents in their exact location. With music, the sound expands so it completely surrounds you
  • Dolby Digital support for compelling 5.1 surround sound through a home theater system
  • Creative ALchemy to restore EAX and surround sound in DirectSound game titles running under Vista
  • Certified UAA compliance for maximum Windows Vista compatibility
  • X-RAM dedicated audio memory to boost performance in select games
  • THX Certified surround sound for cinematic movie audio playback
  • PowerDVD software with DTS-ES and Dolby Digital-EX decoding
  • 24-bit audio quality and 109db SNR audio clarity
  • ASIO recording support with latency as low as one millisecond with minimal CPU load
Source: Creative
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91 Comments on Creative Unveils X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Series PCI-E Sound Cards

#51
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Musselstechnically, the creative cards are emulating it anyway in vista.

I run alchemy on my auzentech card, if you search for alchemy universal you'll realise that hardware EAX isnt neccesary at all.
It's not that the cards are, but legacy apps.

OpenAL based apps hardware accelerate EAX in Vista. Take a look at the supported games list of ALchemy, you'll find that titles such as Quake 4 / Doom 3, etc. aren't there, because they're OpenAL apps, they'll not only perform EAX processing by hardware but also don't require ALchemy for multi-channel output.

But you're right, with such 1337 CPU's around, it's insignificant, the whole hardware acceleration thingy. ASUS devised SupremeFX X-Fi that is advertised to support EAX 4.0 HD, but software-accelerates it, but you're assured you get the advertised features.
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#52
Silverel
Black PantherThis officially supports Vista apparently.

Great. :rolleyes:

That's why they threatened a modder with legal action when he adapted the drivers for their current x-fi cards to work well under Vista... :ohwell:
After that reached the highest point, the ended up dropping their issues and supporting him in his endeavors. Just another example of bad PR on Creatives end. I'm sure when someone had the balls to tell one of the bosses how horrible that went over, they fired a few dozen people, and assigned new ones to soothe the poor guys ego.

Last I heard anyways.
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#53
EarlZ
Does the DDlive encoding require a separate hardware chip or is it a driver feature that we can hack into the X-Fi Extreme music and above?
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#54
Bjorn_Of_Iceland
selway89Interesting this card looks good, but to be totaly honest I'm looking at the ASUS Xonar DX (the D2 and D2X little brother)



They emulate upto EAX5, not hardware supported... Drivers intercept EAX calls and emulates it to within a certain degree...
Thanks.. gave me a great idea for an algo :)
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#55
panchoman
Sold my stars!
what is it with all of our pci cards turning into boxes?
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#56
imperialreign
panchomanwhat is it with all of our pci cards turning into boxes?
video cards - it's better to remove the heat from the system out the back, if possible - plus, nVidia likes to purty up their cards

audio cards - need shielding from the vast amount of EMI/RFI produced from high powered GPUs, CPUs, motherboard components, WiFi adapters and routers, cathode lights, high-speed fans, etc

the audio card has the hardest job in the rig, and is greatly taken advantage of by the general user as well
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#57
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
panchomanwhat is it with all of our pci cards turning into boxes?
Two things,

It gives the thing more of a product feel than a component feel (as nicely put by W1z). Secondly, sound cards of today need adequate amount of shielding from EMI that can affect performance/output quality (thanks to beefier video hardware), which is why, not just Creative but some other companies like ASUS have made it a point to provide sound-cards with protection against EMI (as seen on Xonar, SupremeFX).
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#58
Rebo&Zooty
btarunr...which has known compatibility issues with certain NForce motherboards. :p



That's why they made a truce with Daniel Kamakawi, a person who can. So Creative hardware + 3rd party drivers are quite a combination.

Let's not get into "oh yeah?.....blah blah blah". Let's acknowledge its a news thread and everything surrounds the product that's making news.
weird, i know a few ppl using that card on nf550/560/570/590 range boards without any issues.........

on the other hand i have personaly had to replace x-fi cards with alternitives for nforce4 owners because the card just wouldnt work, yet strangely ANY other audio card i slaped in WORKED PERFECTLY be it via,cmedia,crystal or a few other chips, creative didnt follow proper pci bus specs(iso) hence the problems, this has happened befor, creative sound blaster live cards had issues on alot of systems back in the day, some tryed to blame via, but it happened on EVERYBODYS BOARDS on both amd and intel, turned out the ONLY FIX was to push the pci latancy out of proper spec to 96 or higher..........

creatives KNOWN for pulling crap like that then blaming the board maker, asus is known for blaming the user for bios related issues(gigabyte and msi are just as bad about that tho)

honestly, i really hope we see some good cmedia based pci-e soundcards, if only to spice up the market a bit, im a fan of cmedia ever since i disscovered that they acctualy have a usefull support forum that has some drivers for OLD chips that they dont even make anymore, creative just tells you to fark off and buy a new card.

as to the issues with fetures/drivers on the x-fi, danial k dosnt make drivers, he just mods them, same as OMEGADRIVE dosnt "make" drivers he just mods their installers.

see the DK drivers acctualy just enable stuff that creative INTENTIONALY dissabled or broke, thats why they got pissy when he fixed it, they wanted to force you to buy a re-hash of the same card but that had support for the fetures they intentionaly dissabled.

this is like nvidia or ati/amd dissabling dx9 support on a videocard on vista because they are bringing out a new videocard and want more sales, butt unlike creative, ati/nvidia wouldnt be stupid enought to pull that shit.........
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#59
imperialreign
Rebo&Zootyweird, i know a few ppl using that card on nf550/560/570/590 range boards without any issues.........

on the other hand i have personaly had to replace x-fi cards with alternitives for nforce4 owners because the card just wouldnt work, yet strangely ANY other audio card i slaped in WORKED PERFECTLY be it via,cmedia,crystal or a few other chips, creative didnt follow proper pci bus specs(iso) hence the problems, this has happened befor, creative sound blaster live cards had issues on alot of systems back in the day, some tryed to blame via, but it happened on EVERYBODYS BOARDS on both amd and intel, turned out the ONLY FIX was to push the pci latancy out of proper spec to 96 or higher..........

creatives KNOWN for pulling crap like that then blaming the board maker, asus is known for blaming the user for bios related issues(gigabyte and msi are just as bad about that tho)

honestly, i really hope we see some good cmedia based pci-e soundcards, if only to spice up the market a bit, im a fan of cmedia ever since i disscovered that they acctualy have a usefull support forum that has some drivers for OLD chips that they dont even make anymore, creative just tells you to fark off and buy a new card.

as to the issues with fetures/drivers on the x-fi, danial k dosnt make drivers, he just mods them, same as OMEGADRIVE dosnt "make" drivers he just mods their installers.

see the DK drivers acctualy just enable stuff that creative INTENTIONALY dissabled or broke, thats why they got pissy when he fixed it, they wanted to force you to buy a re-hash of the same card but that had support for the fetures they intentionaly dissabled.

this is like nvidia or ati/amd dissabling dx9 support on a videocard on vista because they are bringing out a new videocard and want more sales, butt unlike creative, ati/nvidia wouldnt be stupid enought to pull that shit.........
just curious . . . but, how many people with an nF5 or nf4 motherboard run SLI? That's were a lot of problems started between the two - the X-Fi is BUS hungry, and the nForce chipset didn't want to negotiate the BUS correctly when certain VGA cards were installed, and SLI was worse. Bad design on nVidia's part.

Granted, Creative didn't realize there would be issues, which is why the early revision X-Fi's were in need of firmware updates so soon. Bad design on Creative's part.
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#60
Rebo&Zooty
imperialreignjust curious . . . but, how many people with an nF5 or nf4 motherboard run SLI? That's were a lot of problems started between the two - the X-Fi is BUS hungry, and the nForce chipset didn't want to negotiate the BUS correctly when certain VGA cards were installed, and SLI was worse. Bad design on nVidia's part.

Granted, Creative didn't realize there would be issues, which is why the early revision X-Fi's were in need of firmware updates so soon. Bad design on Creative's part.
very few nvidia owners with SLI boards acctualy go SLI, i had a site with a survay, more CF board owners acctualy use the CF support then SLI chipset owners, probbly because many times to get a decent nvidia based board u gotta buy their higher chipsets, where as in most cases only ppl who want/plan to acctualy go CF buy the CF chipset boards.

and yes again creative FAILED TO PROPERLY TEST their designs, also the issue wasnt 100% fixed with the firmware and bios updates, it was just lessened in most peoples cases, they got it down to a level where it was "acceptable" or "passable" but still.....

i just find it funny that raid cards, scsi cards and any number of other devices that demand high bandwith over the pci/pci-e buss work FINE, but creatives very expencive cards had issues......

guess that shows how well they test their products b4 putting them in users hands........
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#61
imperialreign
Rebo&Zootyvery few nvidia owners with SLI boards acctualy go SLI, i had a site with a survay, more CF board owners acctualy use the CF support then SLI chipset owners, probbly because many times to get a decent nvidia based board u gotta buy their higher chipsets, where as in most cases only ppl who want/plan to acctualy go CF buy the CF chipset boards.

and yes again creative FAILED TO PROPERLY TEST their designs, also the issue wasnt 100% fixed with the firmware and bios updates, it was just lessened in most peoples cases, they got it down to a level where it was "acceptable" or "passable" but still.....

i just find it funny that raid cards, scsi cards and any number of other devices that demand high bandwith over the pci/pci-e buss work FINE, but creatives very expencive cards had issues......

guess that shows how well they test their products b4 putting them in users hands........
I'll agree the cards needed further testing before release - but the X-Fi was designed from the ground-up, not recycling last gen chipsets like the Audigy and Live! series did.

most users who had issues with the nF4 and 5 series either ran SLI, or very specific nVidia cards - it was a bad design on nVidia's part, the chipset would ignore IRQ requests from other devices, to allow the video cards to keep access of the BUS; without the IRQ from the X-Fi being serviced, the APU kept buffering the audio and it would start to break up . . .


other issues from other boards which started up further down the road, where due to overheating of the APU (lack of testing on this is obvious, or they didn't intend there would be a problem). Early revisions didn't have a heatsink, and the higher temperatures put a strain on the APU itself over extended periods of time - after a long enough period of abuse, the capacitors started to break down, and started leaking, and just prior to that, you would start experiencing vast amounts of audio issues, usually in the form of SCP.

I can't blame Creative 100%, but they shouldn't had the foresight to at least slap a heatsink on them from the start just to be safe. They're not the only company that's run into issues with lack of adequeate, cooling, though . . .


and then there are the growing number of pre-built systems from the likes of all the big OEMs, and most of these have locked BIOSes for their motherboards. Depending on the motherboard, CPU, and the general SYS setup, PCI latency needs to be adjusted for the X-Fi cards . . . hell, PCI latency is something that has had to be adjusted for years and years, but, back in the day, the BIOS was open to users - cause you either knew what you were doing in BIOS, or you didn't so you left shit alone. As systems have become more and more pre-built, and more and more average users started purchasing systems, the BIOS had to be locked from features that could potentially damage hardware, and out the door PCI latency settings went.

Not really a problem, until you bring home an X-Fi, Audigy, or some other BUS hungry PCI device, and install it. Now you'll start running into hardware issues, as your new device won't work properly, especially under load. But you can't adjust the latency properly, as the OEM design wasn't meant to be 100% supportive of upgrades, and who takes the flak for the device not working correctly? The manufacturer of said device.




All I'm trying to say, is that yes, Creative should've put a little more effort into testing prior to initial X-Fi shipment; but for nearly almost all of the major problems people have complained about, it's nothing to do with the X-Fi but instead is typically caused by something else. The vast majority of users who've purchased the cards aren't as keen as the majority of us here, and that's where a lot of problems start to arise.



Creative's hardware is still great, but I'll full-out agree that their tech support and customer service are crap as of right now.
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#62
Rebo&Zooty
:banghead::banghead:
imperialreignI'll agree the cards needed further testing before release - but the X-Fi was designed from the ground-up, not recycling last gen chipsets like the Audigy and Live! series did.

most users who had issues with the nF4 and 5 series either ran SLI, or very specific nVidia cards - it was a bad design on nVidia's part, the chipset would ignore IRQ requests from other devices, to allow the video cards to keep access of the BUS; without the IRQ from the X-Fi being serviced, the APU kept buffering the audio and it would start to break up . . .


other issues from other boards which started up further down the road, where due to overheating of the APU (lack of testing on this is obvious, or they didn't intend there would be a problem). Early revisions didn't have a heatsink, and the higher temperatures put a strain on the APU itself over extended periods of time - after a long enough period of abuse, the capacitors started to break down, and started leaking, and just prior to that, you would start experiencing vast amounts of audio issues, usually in the form of SCP.

I can't blame Creative 100%, but they shouldn't had the foresight to at least slap a heatsink on them from the start just to be safe. They're not the only company that's run into issues with lack of adequeate, cooling, though . . .


and then there are the growing number of pre-built systems from the likes of all the big OEMs, and most of these have locked BIOSes for their motherboards. Depending on the motherboard, CPU, and the general SYS setup, PCI latency needs to be adjusted for the X-Fi cards . . . hell, PCI latency is something that has had to be adjusted for years and years, but, back in the day, the BIOS was open to users - cause you either knew what you were doing in BIOS, or you didn't so you left shit alone. As systems have become more and more pre-built, and more and more average users started purchasing systems, the BIOS had to be locked from features that could potentially damage hardware, and out the door PCI latency settings went.

Not really a problem, until you bring home an X-Fi, Audigy, or some other BUS hungry PCI device, and install it. Now you'll start running into hardware issues, as your new device won't work properly, especially under load. But you can't adjust the latency properly, as the OEM design wasn't meant to be 100% supportive of upgrades, and who takes the flak for the device not working correctly? The manufacturer of said device.




All I'm trying to say, is that yes, Creative should've put a little more effort into testing prior to initial X-Fi shipment; but for nearly almost all of the major problems people have complained about, it's nothing to do with the X-Fi but instead is typically caused by something else. The vast majority of users who've purchased the cards aren't as keen as the majority of us here, and that's where a lot of problems start to arise.



Creative's hardware is still great, but I'll full-out agree that their tech support and customer service are crap as of right now.
you want funny, i have an OLD ASS avance logic audio card that was CHEAP AS HELL, it came with a heatsink on the audio chip........why could a 20$ from way back have a sink and the xfi, one of the most expencive audio cards not?

as to "most issues" your forgetting the x-fi music cards driver issue that causes the driver to use 100% cpu at times, thats 100% a software flaw creative should have spoted, and would have if they used the same testing menthods videocard and cpu makers use( acctualy having REAL PEOPLE test the hardware b4 u sell it :O )

i :banghead::banghead::banghead: for a week trying to track that down, in that time the client was upset, thinking i had setup the system wrong(he is the one who ordered the x-fi card because of all the hype) and then a post showed up on creatives forums detailing the problem i was having, the "fix" was to remove most of the software that came with the card, leaving it effectivly the same as old cards that dont have spicific drivers(aureal/avancelogic where its just the windows built in driver)

in he end the client had me swap the card for a VIA chipset card that i had in my work machien( had it in corner of the shop used to play music and download drivers/manuals/bios's exct) it wasnt a cheap card, but it was under 1/2 the price he payed, he just desided the hassle wasnt worth it, so i resold the card AS IS to somebody(who then was mad whenhe had the same issue on his dell :P )

basickly its exectly what we can both agree on, creatives support sucks.

and to be honest, it has alwase sucked, just that they got lucky a few times like the audigy cards, most of them had very few problems compared to sblive and x-fi cards.......

i want to see mobo makers start using GOOD CHIPS on their enthusist boards.

imagin them using cmi8768+ chips for onboard audio.....it wouldnt be that much extra cost, but would drive the quility of the onboard sound thru the roof if done properly(solid caps, good solid coils, exct)

creatives really hurting lately because most people dont see the need to change from their onboard sound once they update the drivers, i know i dont see the "need" not that i would turn down a razer/auzen/htomega/asus sound card if it was offered to me, but i dont "need" it anymore, hell i hope realtek, cmedia, adi and the rest endup doing what asus did, putting out EAX software enabled drivers, that would pretty much FORCE creative to get......creative HAHA......(nice pun!!!)
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#63
imperialreign
I remember hearing about that CPU load issue - but, then again, what manufacturer hasn't released a driver at some point that didn't either 1) cause a memory leak or 2) cause 100% CPU load?


Only reason Creative gets reamed on their software issues is cause they release only 1 or 2 driver packages a year . . . which means that if there are issues, you have to roll back and wait 7-8 months for the next update. That - is inane and retarded, IMO. I've even run into is before when running WIN XP Media Center for a short while - the only driver that worked with that OS was the one bundled on the CD; no driver update worked correctly - even though Creative listed is as being supported. At the very least, they could give us a set schedule so we know when to look forward to, instead of just releasing a driver whenever they feel like it.



onboard is starting to give Creative and C-Media a run for their money, for sure, and coupled with the vast amounts of users who can't hear a difference, or don't have decent enough speakers to hear the difference, Creative really needs to change their tune. You can sell people the new hardware, but when the majority of users are complaining about your customer service and tech support - they won't buy.
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#64
Rebo&Zooty
imperialreignI remember hearing about that CPU load issue - but, then again, what manufacturer hasn't released a driver at some point that didn't either 1) cause a memory leak or 2) cause 100% CPU load?


Only reason Creative gets reamed on their software issues is cause they release only 1 or 2 driver packages a year . . . which means that if there are issues, you have to roll back and wait 7-8 months for the next update. That - is inane and retarded, IMO. I've even run into is before when running WIN XP Media Center for a short while - the only driver that worked with that OS was the one bundled on the CD; no driver update worked correctly - even though Creative listed is as being supported. At the very least, they could give us a set schedule so we know when to look forward to, instead of just releasing a driver whenever they feel like it.



onboard is starting to give Creative and C-Media a run for their money, for sure, and coupled with the vast amounts of users who can't hear a difference, or don't have decent enough speakers to hear the difference, Creative really needs to change their tune. You can sell people the new hardware, but when the majority of users are complaining about your customer service and tech support - they won't buy.
would also help if they did what they use to do with the high end cards, bundle a good set of speekers and some other extras with them, sure it raises cost a bit, BUT it also show cases your product better, my sblive 5.1 gamer plat card(very good card once u worked the bugs out) came with a set of cambrige soundworks speekers(4ch with a sub/amp) i still use them to this day, because dispite their being better speeker sets avalable, they arent that much better, at least not enought better to get me to buy a set, currently im using 3 sets of speekers on this rig, the above mentioned cambrige soundworks set, a logitech set(left and right+sub) and an altec lancing set(for center and sub outputs) all are high quility sets i have had around, desided to try this out, and it works great, so why buy a new set till i see something that really blows my mind?

i mostly game an watch movies, music tends to be turned way up so everybody can hear it when we are doing housework or working outside(no shit, this setups louder then the very expencive shelf system my father gave me when he upgraded.....well upgrade that turned out to be no better then what he had :P )

honestly, for the size of the speekers they kickass, and the subs from the logitech units THUMPS u can feel it thru the walls (impressive for its size!!)

meh, like i said, if only they would make it intresting to people to buy a new card, but creatives supports BLAH at best, horrindus is a better word for it, and many of the cmedia based cards just lack fetures that grab most ppls attention, i think for cmedia and the like adding asus style eax software acceleration would probbly grab peoples attention.

auzen lost my intrest when they dumped the x-med in favor of kissing creatives arse to get the x-fi chip........the ONLY reasion i can see them dumping it is because it was something they had to do to get creative to work with them.
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#65
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
This isn't a thread for Creative-bashing.
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#66
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
btarunrThis isn't a thread for Creative-bashing.
every thread is a thread for creative bashing :P

creative have always made decent hardware, but their software has always been pisspoor - they will drop the old products very fast in order to make people buy a newer one.

Thats actually good knowledge for anyone reading this thread about this product.
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#67
TheGuruStud
imperialreignthe BIOS had to be locked from features that could potentially damage hardware, and out the door PCI latency settings went.
It can be done in software and you can customize each IRQ with PCI Latency Config 3 (supports x64 too).
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#68
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Ehm? The Current X-Fi series was around for more time than NVidia GeForce 8 series. Why not this thread also serve the purpose of telling people that the decent hardware Creative makes can be coupled with 3rd party drivers to make it decent(hardware+software).
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#69
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
btarunrEhm? The Current X-Fi series was around for more time than NVidia GeForce 8 series. Why not this thread also serve the purpose of telling people that the decent hardware Creative makes can be coupled with 3rd party drivers to make it decent(hardware+software).
indeed it can serve that purpose. Its just that i (and many others) dont think that should be neccesary - if i pay for the product, i shouldnt have to go ask some other random guy to make it work. It should work out of the box, with all advertised features.
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#70
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Musselsindeed it can serve that purpose. Its just that i (and many others) dont think that should be neccesary - if i pay for the product, i shouldnt have to go ask some other random guy to make it work. It should work out of the box, with all advertised features.
My Xtreme Gamer works with all advertised features, out of the box.
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#71
TheGuruStud
btarunrMy Xtreme Gamer works with all advertised features, out of the box.








:D
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#72
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
TheGuruStud







:D
Ya rly.
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#73
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
btarunrYa rly.
nothing below an X-fi does, or daniel K wouldnt be modding the drivers. when the next gen cards come out, you'll find you get dropped as well.
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#74
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Musselsnothing below an X-fi does, or daniel K wouldnt be modding the drivers. when the next gen cards come out, you'll find you get dropped as well.
Say hello to my next card:




So your Audigy box came with a print which read it supported Windows Vista? In case you forgot, Audigy users can now download and use ALchemy for free and legal.
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#75
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
btarunrSay hello to my next card:




So your Audigy box came with a print which read it supported Windows Vista? In case you forgot, Audigy users can now download and use ALchemy for free and legal.
oh they changed it to free did they?

Regarldess, without daniel K's drivers it is missing features. The website states the audigy card supports several features (such as dolby decoding, amongst others) that simply didnt work until daniel K enabled them. Are you aware that in vista with an audigy card, ALL we get is the windows volume slider and speaker settings? none of the creative apps are there, so we cant enable any of the advanced features.

oh and have fun with the asus card, they seem to be doing well at the moment. (i'm waiting hopefully for a shorter card that will fit in my matx rig)
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