Sunday, August 10th 2008
R700 Initial Listings Reveal Low Price
The Radeon HD 4870 X2 (R700), the flagship graphics card by AMD is observed to have a lower than expected price-point that seems to justify its performance lead (through pre-release performance evaluations). Going by several reports in the past few months, the R700 was expected to have a US $549.99 launch price, at a time when the competitor NVIDIA was pricing their flagship product in that range. In the period between then and now, the price of the GeForce GTX 280 plummeted from $649.99 to $449.99 while still regarding $499.99 as the company standard price, with some stores and partners in the US selling for as low as $429.99, a huge lop of its original price.
NordicHardware studied several European stores that began listing the R700 for as low as 395 €, with the North American markets keeping their shelf prices set at around the $500 mark. With these price points set as standards, there's bound to be flexibility in pricing, coupled with the launch driver which AMD claims to have fixed several issues in both feature and performance aspects, the product is expected to deliver a level of performance that justifies its price while still remaining 'competitive' per say, and not commanding a high price merely because it holds the performance crown, again going by pre-release performance evaluations.
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NordicHardware
NordicHardware studied several European stores that began listing the R700 for as low as 395 €, with the North American markets keeping their shelf prices set at around the $500 mark. With these price points set as standards, there's bound to be flexibility in pricing, coupled with the launch driver which AMD claims to have fixed several issues in both feature and performance aspects, the product is expected to deliver a level of performance that justifies its price while still remaining 'competitive' per say, and not commanding a high price merely because it holds the performance crown, again going by pre-release performance evaluations.
44 Comments on R700 Initial Listings Reveal Low Price
Nvidia are worth $6.2bn (current money) and an $800mn net income in 2007 (not the same as profit). If you genuinely believe the ati purchase was good for amd, please dont manage a company.
AMD are currently worth $4bn odd, so in theory if they had simply kept the money theyd be worth more atm.
The X2 is supposed to be DOMINATING. Seriously, multi-gpu, with 2GIGS of DDR5...
There's only one game that even needs such power, and that would be Crysis, and it doesn't impress.
I'm still sticking by my initial prediction. That the X2 is a last ditch effort by ATi to take the fabled 'crown,' but is entirely impractical, and only serves to run their 4870 or maybe indirectly their 4850, sales into the ground.
For the amount of power required, heat output, driver dependability and etc. I hardly see why anyone except pure enthusiasts (a.k.a. synthetics) would bother.
If the GTX280 isn't fast 'enough' for someone, than the X2 won't be either, because their demands are simply too high.
My only appreciation for this X2 is that it MIGHT drive prices down on the GT200b, or in some form or another.
As you can see a single 4870 gets 20fps vs 25 for the 4870x2.
why not talking about other games?
Or your just a nvidia fanboi?
woow crysis....
well lets test two 280gtxs in call of huarez and see what happens.
The 4870x2 outperforms 2 280gtxs in sli in all the other games.
And that g200b is yet a rumor.So,don't start changing the subject.This thread is about the 4870x2 not nvidia.
Id.
To get a new market where there's no INTEL.
actually, that's not the exact reason
Lately nvidia introduced cuda,"the parallel processing for general processing "And as we saw,The parallel procesing is much faster than the x86 processing in some taskes.
Like in transcoding the 280gtx with a 933 Giga flops/cycle of processing power {processing power is the number of constructions or flops a gpu can handle in a single cycle} was 8 times faster than a QX 9770 clocked at 4GHz.
NVIDIA claims that there are much more areas where the parallel processing can take over easily.
So,We have two types of processing and each one has it's adavantages over the other.
What i meant by changing the battle ground wasn't the gpu market.
AMD is woking at these seconds on the first parallel+x86 processor .
A processor that will include x86 and parallel cores working together to handle everthing much faster than a x86 processor at least in some tasks.So the x86 core will handle the tasks that they are faster at,and the parallel cores will handle tha tasks that the're faster at.
Now,Intel claims that geometry can be handled better via the x86 processing.
you can see it as a battle ground between INTEL and NVIDIA but,It's actually where AMD can win.
I think that we're going to see not only x86+parallel cpus but also
x86+parallel gpus.Easily put as much processing power of each type as it needs to make a gpu or a cpu.
I think,dear brothers,that AMD is going to change the micro processing industry to where it can win.
Sub 100 dollar market
9500GT - Soundly trumps the aging 3670
9600GT - Soundly trumps the HD3850
Sub 200
8800GT - Soundly trumps the 3870
9800GTX+ - very competive with the 4850
Also to continue
The 6150 and the new 7050 IGP's are very good IGP's out right now, and while the 6150 is getting old its still a great IGP for all but the most intensive gaming, for a general use IGP its one of the best still, and the 7050 offers a good IGP for intel as well as AMD.
The market share doesnt come from who has the crown but from a few things
who controls the mindshare
who has the faster sub 100 card
who provides the best warranties
who provides the better support
thats what really counts, the 4870 X2 may take the lead, but Nvidia has never sat around and done nothing, I fully expect a 55nm GTX 290 GX2 to arrive simply to reatake the crown and it won't even need to be as fast as the GTX280 SLI it can be a slightly faster GTX260 core and memory and trump the 4870 X2, Nvidia never sits by and gets beaten, its not there style.
As for Crysis i still play online alot, I enjoy it so i do care
Is Warhead out yet? I completely forgot about that. Thanks for clearing that up.
You can thank ATI at the Time for making them become competitive with the GF6 line.
to run on a $600.00 PC instead of a $600.00 graphics card:laugh:
(sorry I had to)