Chicken Pattyto me its also a big knock off of this case:

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

But it's really ugly and expensive.

I'm sure this V9 will cost me a kidney, but cooler master is crazy for charging that much for such a plain case.

TheGuruStudBut it's really ugly and expensive.

I'm sure this V9 will cost me a kidney, but cooler master is crazy for charging that much for such a plain case.

I think the cooler master is pretty darn good for its price. However something about this thermaltake looks...




....GOOD!! :p

Chicken PattyI think the cooler master is pretty darn good for its price. However something about this thermaltake looks...




....GOOD!! :p

+1 once you build in the HAF you never want to touch another mismanaged mid-tower ever again.

TRIPTEX_MTL+1 once you build in the HAF you never want to touch another mismanaged mid-tower ever again.

So the HAF is not good or good, sorry don't want to read your post the wrong way.

nice and sexy... just like how i like my girls :p

panchomannice and sexy... just like i like my girls :p

:laugh::laugh:

thats a great quote hehehe

Chicken PattySo the HAF is not good or good, sorry don't want to read your post the wrong way.

It's good.

I was referring to Antec 900 mid-tower knock offs. The HAF is a full tower.

Was thinking the same thing about the outside screaming Antec 900. However, the inside sure isnt. With the cage and cable management, Airflow wont be impeded much. Really like the black painted inside. Hopefully it comes in at 149.99 or less.

TRIPTEX_MTLIt's good.

I was referring to Antec 900 mid-tower knock offs. The HAF is a full tower.

I figured, just wanted to be sure. Yeah the HAF looks really nice IMO and the price is great. Its got the ability to let you mount many rads for watercooling freaks like me, and its got great airflow for people running air setups. Hard to beat IMO!

HAF is boss

HAF is boss. Only negatives are a unpainted interior and no dust filters.

TRIPTEX_MTLHAF is boss. Only negatives are a unpainted interior and no dust filters.

you could buy dust filters though right?

MKmodsAnd mounting the PS below is a stupid waste of a PS fan.

Not at all. Power supplies tend to be rather heavy (the high-quality ones, anyway). Mounting the power supply at the bottom lowers the case's center of gravity and makes it less likely to tip over. This case has plenty of fans for cooling the other components; the power supply fan only has to cool the power supply itself.

lol, I have never seen a case tip over before. And the PS dosent need a 120/140mm fan just for it, the reason they have such large fans is to help evacuate the heat built up in the case.

mounting the PS below makes the need for longer wiring (adds more heat, waste of copper). If the fan is facing up fights with heats natural tendency to rise and if its facing down is a total waste of such a large fan.

Welcome to TPU

Or perhaps the PSU being at the bottom increases its life due to lower temps.
Why would you need it at the top with a case like this?

As long as the price is good, I think I might get this for my Deneb build.

sexy.

MKmodslol, I have never seen a case tip over before. And the PS dosent need a 120/140mm fan just for it, the reason they have such large fans is to help evacuate the heat built up in the case.

mounting the PS below makes the need for longer wiring (adds more heat, waste of copper). If the fan is facing up fights with heats natural tendency to rise and if its facing down is a total waste of such a large fan.

Welcome to TPU

I agree with you about the longer wires but I dont want my PSU to be used as an exhaust fan. Its job is to power the system and I'd rather have one 203mm fan to expel the extra heat from the system. I like the idea of the PSU only cooling itself and not having the system depend on it. Plus the bottom area of a traditional case is essentially useless where the HAF (and other bottom mounted cases) is making more efficient use of the space available. The HAF also has vents to the outside below the PSU so it can draw air for below the case(mixed blessing if you put in a carpeted floor).

MKmodslol, I have never seen a case tip over before.

You obviously don't have any kids under the age of 6 in your house.... :)

MKmodsAnd the PS dosent need a 120/140mm fan just for it, the reason they have such large fans is to help evacuate the heat built up in the case.

And to reduce fan noise. A bigger fan turns slower than a smaller one to produce the same airflow. Slower RPMs means less noise.

MKmodsmounting the PS below makes the need for longer wiring (adds more heat, waste of copper).

I can't argue with that. It can be difficult if not impossible to reach the power connector on some motherboards when the PS is in the bottom of the case. I've occasionally had to install a PS extension cable to reach that high up.

MKmodsIf the fan is facing up fights with heats natural tendency to rise and if its facing down is a total waste of such a large fan.

The airflow from the fan is more than adequate to overcome that problem. The PS is a very small box, and the air has nowhere else to escape from except the back vents. The fan just makes a breeze to encourage the warm air to exit in the right direction.

An added benefit of putting the PS in the bottom of the case: the air coming in the PS is cooler because it isn't loaded with waste heat from the CPU, video card, etc. This will help the PS components to run cooler, which should extend the life of the unit.

Nope.. no kids, lol

Thats kind of true about the bigger fan being slower.. BUT (there is always a butt, lol) Those bigger fans add more vibration (bigger blade is harder to balance) and you do not have the options that using main stream fan sizes (like the 120mm versions) offer, different speeds, different bearings and different qualities.

As to "overcoming" warm airs natural tendency to rise. Thats silly, why overcome it why not just design to take advantage of it by putting the PS at the top (where the PS is just kicking back waiting for the warm air to show up and be exhausted:roll:).

And welcome again to TPU;)

The fan faces DOWN! Just FYI.

TheGuruStudThe fan faces DOWN! Just FYI.

The PS can be rotated to face up or down in the case. If its facing down its even worse as it is a total waste of a large fan like I mentioned earlier.

MKmodsThe PS can be rotated to face up or down in the case. If its facing down its even worse as it is a total waste of a large fan like I mentioned earlier.

Why? You don't need it to do anything else. The case already has plenty of fans.

because if the PS comes with a 120mm fan (way too much for the PS itself) its just a wasted fan facing down. There is plenty of space for intake fans in the front but the rear real estate is limited in space for exhaust fans. By removing the PS one from the equasion makes it even worse.

When I look at the case it looks like airflow was poorly thought out. Just having big fans dosent automatically mean that its a good thing.(lol, there are fans on all 6 sides of the case)

MKmodsAs to "overcoming" warm airs natural tendency to rise. Thats silly, why overcome it why not just design to take advantage of it by putting the PS at the top (where the PS is just kicking back waiting for the warm air to show up and be exhausted.)

There isn't much to "overcome". The fan is forcing air into the PS, and the easiest way out is the vent grill on the back. Heat doesn't get much of a chance to rise off the PS components before the airflow pushes it out the back.

A top-mounted PS still draws in warm/hot air from the other system components. Because of its location, there is no way to avoid this. The PS has to deal with the heat produced by its own components along with the added heat from the computer's components.

The V9 Black Edition's overabundance of fans includes a large blowhole fan at the top-rear of the case. That will do a much better job of venting hot air than a PS fan.

There's one more drawback to a top-mounted PS. Large cooling fans (> 80mm) in a PS are always mounted on the bottom of the unit. This allows a pocket of hot air as tall as the PS to build up in the top of the case; the PS fan siphons off the bottom of the pocket. If the optical drive is mounted in the top bay (a common location), and it will slowly but surely bake in the heat.

I think its closer to the 900 hehe