trt740Guys the AMD chips are great and do have enough power for just about anything but they don't compare at all to overclocked I7 chips, I've owned them both and it is not close. This is a dumb arguement, since the AM3 were never ment to compete with the I7 chips. However, what is unreal is that they can exceed or reach similar performance to a stock I7 speeds at a fraction of the cost while using DDr2. AMD chips are very good and much more cost effective than their intel cousins but they are not faster.

snakeoiloverheating core i7 can't ramp up speed

the overheating core i7 can't increase stock speed beyond 3.3, overheats too much because of hyperthreading, phenom II is power efficient and stays cool, which gives room for increasing stock speed using stock cooler

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tastegwi second this!

ive had the pII 940, and my i7 920 @ stock is faster than my phenom was @ 3.75

AMD can pull out a 4.0GHz phenom, and it would still perform below the cheapest i7 chip.

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i think you dont believe what you are saying

erockerThere are plenty of other threads to have your AMD vs. Intel debates. This news story is not one of them.

Thanks. :)

KitkatAMD anouncemnts always bring out the best in everyone Intel and AMD its not a debate they we just comparing. Its imposible not to cause its the only thing we can , that is until nvidia releases that chip they deny exist :)

snakeoilimagine an nvidia cpu, probably cuad core 970 gtx ultra, ja, ja,ja i dont want even to imagine that, with intel is enough (we dont need more bad guys)

snakeoiloverheating core i7 can't ramp up speed

the overheating core i7 can't increase stock speed beyond 3.3, overheats too much because of hyperthreading, phenom II is power efficient and stays cool, which gives room for increasing stock speed using stock cooler

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not asking you to believe me, i was just telling you the facts that are true to my two cpu's.

i no longer have the phenom, but its benchmarks results when overclocked to 3.7 are just below the i7 @ stock.

a small sample of a vantage bench,
both chips @ 3.7-3.8
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need i say more.

Wile EThat is the biggest load of crap I have seen. We have members here well above 4Ghz on air on their i7's.

Do you ever post anything true about intel, or just continually spout fanboy bs propaganda?

Quit being a troll.

cdawallthats one benchmark not exactly tell all sorta tale with that throw a second VGA card on both rebench and tell us all the scores. you will notice the 940BE all of a sudden catch back up thats called a better chipset and it does weird things like work better.

also everyone knows that clock for clock i7 beats phenom II thats a given. just leave it there and move on a 3.4ghz phenom II will beat a 2.66ghz i7 in just about everything there is no if's, no and's, no but's. if you would like you can run that one rendering bench were i7 might skim by in the lead but i doubt it.

Wile EYeah, but if current pricing is any indication, the i7 will actually be cheaper at this point.

And have you proven your scaling theory yet? Because I see Intel has the top 15 spots in Vantage on the Orb, and the top 14 in 06. I don't think your scaling theory holds water cd.

cdawallhmm didn't overheat last time i clocked one up

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not exactly a godlike air cooler either

cdawallthe i7's have more clocks to them than AMD can scale thru however me and freaksavior have a box of VGA cards waiting for free time

btarunrIs that your setup?

Wile EI still wanna see, if no no other reason than a good scientific comparo. (Hey, those are always fun. lol) But I'm starting to think the issue was possibly from immature BIOSes in the Intel camp. i7 made a huge surge forward in 3Dmarks in the past month or so.

thats one benchmark not exactly tell all sorta tale with that throw a second VGA card on both rebench and tell us all the scores. you will notice the 940BE all of a sudden catch back up thats called a better chipset and it does weird things like work better.

also everyone knows that clock for clock i7 beats phenom II thats a given. just leave it there and move on a 3.4ghz phenom II will beat a 2.66ghz i7 in just about everything there is no if's, no and's, no but's. if you would like you can run that one rendering bench were i7 might skim by in the lead but i doubt it.

tastegwim sorry but atleast my phenom 940 clocked @ 3.7 didnt beat any of my stock i7 benches that i did. the only win the phenom got was when it had my gtx 280's physx, while i do not have physx in my i7 rig.

tastegwperhaps that is the difference from ddr3 1600 to ddr2 800

tastegwperhaps that is the difference from ddr3 1600 to ddr2 800

snakeoilwrong, the difference between phenom II ddr2 and ddr3 is 5% maximum , why dont you accept that what you said is wrong. and move on please.

snakeoiloverheating core i7 can't ramp up speed

the overheating core i7 can't increase stock speed beyond 3.3, overheats too much because of hyperthreading, phenom II is power efficient and stays cool, which gives room for increasing stock speed using stock cooler

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Assassin48it was probably a bad overclocked

or hes comparing a lesser gpu with a higher end gpu on the i7 when doing the vantage run

tastegwphenom had a gtx 280 by its side,

i7 has a 4770.

i wasnt compairing gpu scores or total scores.