NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Founders Edition

[W1zzard]

its basically a necessary thing to use for it to be useable

Out of the hundreds of performance results in this review, only 3 are with DLSS 3 enabled. I see not even a hint that you must use DLSS 3 for this card to work well

 

[dirtyferret]

I personally and honestly feel that if I would buy a card in this range today I would probably spend the extra 20% or $70 for DLSS 3, noise and efficiency

I assume you already have your hands on the RX 7600XT (but can't make comments on it) so the real question would be would you spend an extra $100 from the RX 7600XT (going by rumor pricing) or RTX 4060 to get the RTX 4060ti? That's a question the market place will answer but to me the 4060ti 8GB for $400 seems more like price protection for the 16GB version at $500. Nvidia wants products at these price points even if they don't necessarily justify the price with their performance in the eyes of the market. We can only hope for self correction from more competition.

 

[dukki98]

Did the memory overclock from 18 to 21.5Gbps, a +⅕ increase in bandwidth actually help in games @ 1440p? I believe thats the main thing holding it back from performing ~3070Ti, as it has the compute: 34/48SMs*2790/1920MHz = 103% of compute?

 

[ToTTenTranz]

CPU limited

There's no such thing. The whole purpose of DLSS3 is that it's never limited by the CPU because the process occurs only in the GPU.
N+1 generated frame only depends on rendered frame N and motion vectors, it never travels back to the CPU.
And if you apply frame generation of 30FPS you're always going to get pretty bad input latency. Frame generation is good for 50FPS and up, to get higher fluidity out of low-latency scenarios. It's not going to help the 4060 Ti and its terrible frametimes when it runs out of VRAM.

TLDR, DLSS3 fits the 4090 and 4080 just fine, but it's mostly worthless for in the 4060 series' performance range.

"No doubt, you can find edge cases where 8 GB will not be enough, but for thousands of games it will be a complete non-issue, and I think it's not unreasonable for buyers in this price-sensitive segment to set textures to High instead of Ultra, for two or three titles"

$400 is price sensitive now?
Asking people to set textures to High instead of Ultra on 1080p on new $400 GPUs is fine?
And people are buying $400 graphics cards in 2023 to play... thousands of games launched prior to 2023? Longevity and looking at VRAM usage of same-year titles isn't even an issue now?

That single sentence is like a high-school reunion of bad advice, wow.

 

[JimmyDoogs]

The 6750 xt is debatably the only card that I'm seeing that can beat this card in it's class. You could save yourself $80 bucks by getting that one or you could spend the extra $80 bucks and get DLSS 3. It's really just whatever the end user wants.

I personally think this is a good (to okay) launch driving all other cards down in price too. Everything is fine lol, and it'll just keep getting better too.

Ask me who really lost out? It's the people who bought cards last gen for above MSRP.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Maybe somebody else can come up with one but regardless of competition or Nvidia reasoning or DLSS3 this still has to be the worst generational improvement of a 400usd gpu in the last decade

 

[izy]

Its like buying a bmw 3 series with heated seats and laser headlights at the price of a 5 series

 

[Outback Bronze]

Asking people to set textures to High instead of Ultra on 1080p on new $400 GPUs is fine?

Only on the most recent games if you had of read the review properly: Resident Evil, Hogwarts Legacy, The Last of Us and Jedi Survivor.

That's only 4 games over 1000's where you have to turn textures down on 1080p.

And people are buying $400 graphics cards in 2023 to play... thousands of games launched prior to 2023? Longevity and looking at VRAM usage of same-year titles isn't even an issue now?

Why are you even looking into this review if you're after longevity from an 8GB card???

Price's have clearly changed lately. Keep up with the times.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Only on the most recent games if you had of read the review properly: Resident Evil, Hogwarts Legacy, The Last of Us and Jedi Survivor.

That's only 4 games over 1000's where you have to turn textures down on 1080p.

The games using >8GB VRAM are all the high-profile releases of 2023, and they're painting a very dark future for the 4060 Ti.

 

[Bet0n]

You just need to play the game for more than a few minutes, which is more than the average benchmark.

Watch their video on youtube, they showed actual gameplay and not just graphs.

 

[tussinman]

RX 7600 should be roughly the same level of performance give or take a few % at $269! can't see these selling all that well, this definitely should've been a 50 class card, not 4060 ti

No from what I've been reading the 7600 is going to be like 25 to 30% slower than this card at 30% cheaper.

 

[AusWolf]

Slightly faster than a 6700 XT, barely catching up to the 3070... that's a big BOO from me for the generational gap. At least it's very conservative with power, but for this price, it's still not worth it. Not to mention it uses a 12-pin plug for no reason. I can't see how such overpriced cards get recommendation badges.

 

[3x0]

I'll just quote myself from an earlier thread, asking why I think it's a joke.

The MSRP part. Almost 3 years after the 3070 was released, for the same price we get 16GB VRAM and DLSS3, with slightly better power consumption.
Or for the same price of the 3060Ti, we get the same amount of VRAM for 10-15% better performance.

3 years, let that sink in. If this was a mid-gen refresh 1 year after 30 series was released it might be acceptable, but this isn't what a 3 year cycle should bring to the table.

The Recommended badge should be taken off, there are better products for the price.

 

[Deleted member 229121]

Well John...it's the 3060 Ti all over again

 

[AusWolf]

Only on the most recent games if you had of read the review properly: Resident Evil, Hogwarts Legacy, The Last of Us and Jedi Survivor.

That's only 4 games over 1000's where you have to turn textures down on 1080p.



Why are you even looking into this review if you're after longevity from an 8GB card???

Price's have clearly changed lately. Keep up with the times.

You still shouldn't have to turn textures down at 1080p if you spend this much money on a graphics card. "Prices have changed" is not an argument when you can have a 12 GB 6700 XT for a similar price, or a 16 GB 6800 for a little bit more.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

You still shouldn't have to turn textures down at 1080p if you spend this much money on a graphics card. "Prices have changed" is not an argument when you can have a 12 GB 6700 XT for a similar price, or a 16 GB 6800 for a little bit more.

The argument is that those are old AMD trash with no DLSS3. I don't agree with that but that's the consensus I'm getting from people defending this card.

This continues to be the generation of the sidegrade either buy a 4090 or get almost no generational improvements to price/performance.

 

[tvshacker]

Well John...it's the 3060 Ti all over again

With DLSS3

 

[sethmatrix7]

Look at those fake frames!!!

 

[JimmyDoogs]

DLSS 3 performance can be noteworthy.

I really think more people shouldn't brush it off like DLSS 2, it looks better than 2. I don't know if the 4060 ti quite reaches the uplift of the 4070 though, but it's just interesting stuff to me as a computer enthusiast. Every new card that comes out I'm generally pretty interested in.

 

[lawood]

Pathetic review and pathetic gpu.

Thanks for letting me know to NOT trust on those "highly recommend" stickers from reviews here.

The performance is worse than the 3060 ti at 1440p in some games.
Trash gpu...

 

[Beer4Myself]

Dead on Arrival, get yourself a 6700XT, 3060ti or 6800

 

[Paranoir andando]

What was expected, the 4050 with a new name. It's ok, it exceeds the old 3060ti, it is usual.

 

[AusWolf]

The argument is that those are old AMD trash with no DLSS3. I don't agree with that but that's the consensus I'm getting from people defending this card.

The "old trash" argument always makes me laugh. Like one cares what generation graphics card is in one's PC while playing games.

Sometimes I play Nascar Heat 5 on my bedroom HTPC. It runs at around 40-45 FPS. As long as it's smooth, I don't give a rat's arse that the system has an "old trash" GT 1030 in it.

 

[Tomorrow]

Interesting .. so power/heat/noise is irrelevant for you and you don't like DLSS 3 and have RT disabled. $330 to $400 is just 20%, or one AAA game, that's not tempting for you?

None of the previous gen 30 series or 6000 series card in the same performance bracket put up much heat and cooling solutions have gotten so good that it's easier to point out bad ones that occasionally pop up. In fact cooling solutions this gen have been overbuilt adding cost.

As for the power - yes it consumes less power but that only matters for people who game hours each day. Going by the price and efficiency the 4060 Ti does not make up for that in the long run unless you game for hours each day. Basically it would have to save you $70 worth of electricity to be worth it. That would take a long time achieve unless you live in a area where electricity cost is super high.

DLSS 3 is worse the lower the card itself performs. It's best at high native framerates.
RT at 1080p on 128bit 8GB card is nothing to write home about.

Also i have a bone to pick with this card being 1080p targeted.
1440p 144Hz IPS monitors can be had from 255€ new. 400€ new for 240Hz even. Yet this card will cost 440€+ in EU and is capable primarily only for 1080p. Makes no sense. Makes even less sense in 2023 to spend 400+ on a 8GB card that already struggles at 1080p occasionally.
20% is a big gap in this price class.

 

[neatfeatguy]

@W1zzard

I haven't read through other posts yet, so I'm not sure if this was mentioned yet.

Typo, first page right before the GPU comparison chart:

"NVIDIA is pricing the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti at an MSRP of USD $399,"

That should read 4060 Ti and not 4070 Ti