Thursday, July 15th 2010

Radeon HD 5830 Gets Price-Cuts, Takes Aim at GeForce GTX 460

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btarunr
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Call it one of the immediate repercussions of NVIDIA's Monday launch of the GeForce GTX 460, AMD has responded covertly with noticeable price-cuts for the ATI Radeon HD 5830 graphics card, from across various AIB partners. Leading partners such as Sapphire, HIS, and Gigabyte positioned their models that have AMD-reference clock speeds at US $199.99, and factory-overclocked models starting at $229.99. Incidentally these are two price-points NVIDIA is targeting with the GeForce GTX 460, with the 768 MB variant positioned at $199.99, which NVIDIA refers to as the gamers' sweet-spot, and the 1 GB variant at $229.99.

Reviews from across the web show that while GeForce GTX 460 768MB gets close to the Radeon HD 5830 in terms of performance, it only takes the 1 GB variant to perform on par. With AMD positioning the HD 5830 at $199, and factory-overclocked HD 5830 starting at $229.99, things could get heated up in this market segment. Based on the 40 nm Cypress GPU, the Radeon HD 5830 is DirectX 11 compatible, packs 1120 stream processors, and 1 GB of GDDR5 memory.

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84 Comments on Radeon HD 5830 Gets Price-Cuts, Takes Aim at GeForce GTX 460

#51
Benetanegia
erockerI paid $289 for each of my Diamond 5850's from Newegg the day they were released.
MSRP and actual price on retailers is a very different thing. This goes for both MM and you. I'm done with this stupid conversation, does it really matter? NO. So, let's just stop.
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#53
erocker
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BenetanegiaMSRP and actual price on retailers is a very different thing. This goes for both MM and you. I'm done with this stupid conversation, does it really matter? NO. So, let's just stop.
I don't disagree with you. MSRP has always been $299 for the 5850 and $399 for the 5870.
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#56
erocker
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Anyways, this thread isn't about any other cards. Keep on topic please.
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#57
Benetanegia
TheMailMan78img.techpowerup.org/100716/Untitled.jpg
Yes 2 weeks later the price was lower, I already said why in an edit above, read.

It could be that Wizzard used Newegg prices on that chart and it wouldn't be the first time. But at launch day, which was 22 September, MSRP was 399 and 299 and every single review from that day says the same.
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#58
MN12BIRD
Damn I figured the GTX460 would beat the 5830 (I thought it was on par with 5850) but I guess the 5830 has been long over due for a price drop! For $199.99 it would be a great choice!
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#59
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
btarunrAt $199, HD 5830 is faster than GTX 460 768MB ($199), and has higher performance per dollar compared to GTX 460 1GB ($229, which performs on par).
which is a smart move from ATI, keeping the price advantage alive.
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#60
HalfAHertz
MN12BIRDDamn I figured the GTX460 would beat the 5830 (I thought it was on par with 5850) but I guess the 5830 has been long over due for a price drop! For $199.99 it would be a great choice!
the 460 does beat the 5830, just check W1z's reviews a bit earlier in this thread. IMO Ati should scrap the whole sku already and release something better or just drop the price even further. Tho I'm not sure if that will be financially viable for them.
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#61
RejZoR
None of these two is a good deal. Good deal was HD5850 if you bought it at the right time (soon after release). Because later on, when NVIDIA still had nothing to offer, AMD increased the prices.
I still cought it at relatively low price, but some models were over 300 EUR at that time. I got it for around 230-240 EUR and those who bought it sooner, even less. Kick ass performance card.
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#62
jamesrt2004
FreedomEclipseno -Retailers try to keep you paying the old price for as long as possible after the announcement then cut the price when a savvy customers question them on price.

but the people i usually buy from dont do that thank god. most of them are quite open to bargaining. but I have been to places where I was about to spend a absaloute fortune on new parts for a new system & they wouldnt even give me £20 off for spending almost over £600 - its retailers like that who dont last very long.
Also remember most will have had an order the week before come in at the old price, so then they would lose money on them as the margins are so small so normally they wait for most/all of that deliverys stock has diminished to decrease the loss of money from it =)
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#63
yogurt_21
RejZoRNone of these two is a good deal. Good deal was HD5850 if you bought it at the right time (soon after release). Because later on, when NVIDIA still had nothing to offer, AMD increased the prices.
I still cought it at relatively low price, but some models were over 300 EUR at that time. I got it for around 230-240 EUR and those who bought it sooner, even less. Kick ass performance card.
you post about good deals and then recomend a card with a worse price/performance ratio?:wtf:
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_460_Cyclone_OC_768_MB/33.html
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#64
Melvis
wiak/me hugs his 5870 1GB, half year old and still fast :respect:
u2konlinewhy wouldn't it still be fast a year or 2 years later?
my 9800gt green edition and pny gts 250 isyears old and still can keep up with new games easily. Looking at your 5870 1gb specs
www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1253/catalyst_103.jpg

you should be able to play any game for years to come with no problems. least 5 more years best.
Ill beat ya both :p, the 4870X2 is faster and is 2yrs old, still going to be around playing games with ease for awhile yet ;)

Now you can pick these up for as little as $200, now that's great price performance there :rockout:
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#65
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
MelvisIll beat ya both :p, the 4870X2 is faster and is 2yrs old, still going to be around playing games with ease for awhile yet ;)

Now you can pick these up for as little as $200, now that's great price performance there :rockout:
4870x2 is not faster. i had a 4870 crossfire setup (exactly the same as your x2, performance wise) and my 5870 shits all over it.
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#66
Melvis
Mussels4870x2 is not faster. i had a 4870 crossfire setup (exactly the same as your x2, performance wise) and my 5870 shits all over it.
Ummm if i remember correctly the 4870X2 actually beat two 4870's in crossfire?

I cant honestly comment on the 5870 beating the 4870X2 im just going by the results on Wizz's reviews :ohwell:
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#67
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
MelvisUmmm if i remember correctly the 4870X2 actually beat two 4870's in crossfire?

I cant honestly comment on the 5870 beating the 4870X2 im just going by the results on Wizz's reviews :ohwell:
the 4870x2 is literally two 4870's stuck together in 8x/8x crossfire - its exactly the same.
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#68
inferKNOX
I clearly remember the MSRP being US$260 because I was annoyed that mine cost me 10 bucks more at US$269 (a week or 2 after launch) and I think US$274 after shipping.

Drop all the prices!!
ATi, give us the HD5890 and drop the prices rest of the evergreens if you truly want to make nV squirm!:nutkick:
Afterall, we all know how cheap the HD5000s are for you to make, so what you got to lose? We all buy a another card from you (ATi), you get your sales, we get our unnecessary performance boosts and colossal epeens! Yipeeee...:roll:

Then maybe I can even xfire for the 1st time with 2xHD5850s!!!:rockout:
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#69
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Musselsthe 4870x2 is literally two 4870's stuck together in 8x/8x crossfire - its exactly the same.
but wasnt the 4870X2 faster because of the bridge chip or something????
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#70
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
FreedomEclipsebut wasnt the 4870X2 faster because of the bridge chip or something????
not that i'm aware of. my 4870's were OCd anyway, so odds are they performed on par with an x2, even if they did have a speed boost.
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#71
Melvis
Musselsthe 4870x2 is literally two 4870's stuck together in 8x/8x crossfire - its exactly the same.
Yea this is true, i just remember seeing results showing that the 4870X2 (only marginally) beating 4870's in crossfire. I don't know if it was because it was better optimized then the crossfire setup? O well.

Fact is $200 for that performance is just incredible.
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#72
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Musselsnot that i'm aware of. my 4870's were OCd anyway, so odds are they performed on par with an x2, even if they did have a speed boost.
what were your clocks on your 4870s??
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#73
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
MelvisYea this is true, i just remember seeing results showing that the 4870X2 (only marginally) beating 4870's in crossfire. I don't know if it was because it was better optimized then the crossfire setup? O well.

Fact is $200 for that performance is just incredible.
the thing is, they're similar in DX9, 5870 is faster in DX10, and well, DX11 is obvious.

The one thing i learned which isnt obvious, is that the crossfire setups require more CPU power to run. when i moved to my 5870, some games i was CPU limited in, my FPS skyrocketed (upto 100FPS more in the CoH benchmark, for one outstanding (and very unique example) - on average it was only a 10-20FPS boost, but it was a boost nonetheless (that was on my 4.2GHz wolfdale)

460's are out here in aus already, and they're about $40 cheaper than the cheapest 5830's at the same stores. the price drop will hit eventually, but in the meantime the 460 768MB is quite a good card for the price.


edit: my 4870's didnt clock well, it was only a 5-10% boost at best.
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#74
TheMailMan78
Big Member
So what do you guys think? Should I sell my 5850 and get two 5830's?
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#75
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
TheMailMan78So what do you guys think? Should I sell my 5850 and get two 5830's?
no. they're so inefficient with teh powers.
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