Thursday, July 15th 2010

Radeon HD 5830 Gets Price-Cuts, Takes Aim at GeForce GTX 460

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btarunr
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Call it one of the immediate repercussions of NVIDIA's Monday launch of the GeForce GTX 460, AMD has responded covertly with noticeable price-cuts for the ATI Radeon HD 5830 graphics card, from across various AIB partners. Leading partners such as Sapphire, HIS, and Gigabyte positioned their models that have AMD-reference clock speeds at US $199.99, and factory-overclocked models starting at $229.99. Incidentally these are two price-points NVIDIA is targeting with the GeForce GTX 460, with the 768 MB variant positioned at $199.99, which NVIDIA refers to as the gamers' sweet-spot, and the 1 GB variant at $229.99.

Reviews from across the web show that while GeForce GTX 460 768MB gets close to the Radeon HD 5830 in terms of performance, it only takes the 1 GB variant to perform on par. With AMD positioning the HD 5830 at $199, and factory-overclocked HD 5830 starting at $229.99, things could get heated up in this market segment. Based on the 40 nm Cypress GPU, the Radeon HD 5830 is DirectX 11 compatible, packs 1120 stream processors, and 1 GB of GDDR5 memory.

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84 Comments on Radeon HD 5830 Gets Price-Cuts, Takes Aim at GeForce GTX 460

#26
dir_d
BenetanegiaOriginal MSRP is $299 and $399.
man i paid 400 the night the 5870 came out damn. They should lower those prices to 5850 $250 and 5870 $325 and bring out the 5890.
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#27
_JP_
The price for that card hasn't lowered here...yet. :shadedshu
Personally, I think it won't anyways within a month or so. But I'm definitely going shopping in the end of August (best time for tech shopping here :D).
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#28
Lionheart
dir_dman i paid 400 the night the 5870 came out damn. They should lower those prices to 5850 $250 and 5870 $325 and bring out the 5890.
HD5890 FTW. HD5890 Xfire:rockout::rockout:
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#29
scope54
BenetanegiaOriginal MSRP is $299 and $399.
The original launch MSRP was $260 USD for the 5850, i dont remember what the 5870 was but i think it was $100 more.
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#30
PopcornMachine
devguyI agree that the 5850 needs a price cut, but not because of a threat from the GTX460. In all the reviews I've seen, you need that GTX460 over 800mhz (core) to come near the performance of a stock HD 5850 (which is actually impressive BTW), but overclock the HD 5850 and that is long gone.

IMHO, this is the price point the HD 5830 should've launched at. They've been asking way too much for this ROP crippled Evergreen. If they would've just dropped the stream processor count down to 1120 units but left the ROP amount alone, then this card would've been much better.
I also agree. They need to cut the 5850 as the 1MB GTX460 is a competitor to it. Even if overclocking the 5850 puts it ahead, people will be swayed by the huge price difference.

And I'm not just say this because I want a cheap 5850. Really. Seriously.
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#31
DaedalusHelios
Nooooo! I just bought a 5830 to play with! :laugh:

I did get it for $165 shipped though.
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#32
PopcornMachine
DaedalusHeliosNooooo! I just bought a 5830 to play with! :laugh:

I did get it for $165 shipped though.
Then I wouldn't complain at that price.
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#33
DaedalusHelios
Tatty_OnePlenty of HD5830's to be had for a fair bit less than £200 and the 768MB 460 ($200) can be had for arond £155 -160. $200 = £130, then add the additional taxes and duty and you get fairly close, we do pay a premium but often it's our own greedy retailers who seize on the opportunity to hike their profit.

here is a HD 5830 for £135 :D..............

www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/5020944/art/pixmania/radeon-hd-5830-1-gb-gddr5.html

Now that a good buy, better even than the 460 in terms of value at least.

And £160 for the nice Palit 460 with custom cooling..............

www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-000-PL&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1830

Bottom line sadly is.... we pay more taxes in Europe than the USA, both import and VAT etc etc.
Especially on petroleum/gasoline! :eek:
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#34
phanbuey
Splavetrue winner here (for non dx11) is the HD4890 :) pick up a used 1 for $100 ftw
thats an amazing deal...
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#35
_JP_
DaedalusHeliosEspecially on petroleum/gasoline! :eek:
+1

Really outrageous.
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#36
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Splavetrue winner here (for non dx11) is the HD4890 :) pick up a used 1 for $100 ftw
phanbueythats an amazing deal...
seconded, 100USD= £65(GBP) for the performance that it provides its unbeatable.
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#37
Gjohnst4
phanbueyyah not true at all... not to mention the 460 is faster at stock, and overclocks like a champ. The 5830 is no competition.
The 5830 can overclock extremely well,No competition isn't a fair statement
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#38
RadeonProVega
wiak/me hugs his 5870 1GB, half year old and still fast :respect:
why wouldn't it still be fast a year or 2 years later?
my 9800gt green edition and pny gts 250 isyears old and still can keep up with new games easily. Looking at your 5870 1gb specs
www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1253/catalyst_103.jpg

you should be able to play any game for years to come with no problems. least 5 more years best.
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#39
choppy
have not noticed any price cuts in the uk?
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#40
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
choppyhave not noticed any price cuts in the uk?
no -Retailers try to keep you paying the old price for as long as possible after the announcement then cut the price when a savvy customers question them on price.

but the people i usually buy from dont do that thank god. most of them are quite open to bargaining. but I have been to places where I was about to spend a absaloute fortune on new parts for a new system & they wouldnt even give me £20 off for spending almost over £600 - its retailers like that who dont last very long.
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#41
phanbuey
Gjohnst4The 5830 can overclock extremely well,No competition isn't a fair statement
i mean that its faster at stock and it out-overclocks it by 5-10% which means it'll get left behind.
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#43
SeanG
btarunrAt $199, HD 5830 is faster than GTX 460 768MB ($199), and has higher performance per dollar compared to GTX 460 1GB ($229, which performs on par).
What benchmarks have you been looking at?
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#44
Gzero
choppyhave not noticed any price cuts in the uk?
Yes, look at the HD5870. Coming down already, probably hit £250 if the availability of is still good in the next few months. :toast:
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#45
TheMailMan78
Big Member
BenetanegiaI do remember the MSRP of both very well though. Memory is my best (and maybe only :laugh:) virtue.

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/

img.techpowerup.org/100715/msrp.jpg

www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5850.html

www.xbitlabs.com/images/video/radeon-hd5850/01_price.png
Those charts are much newer then the 5850 release. Hes right. The 5850 was 250-260 when it came out. That only lasted about a week however.

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/
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#46
Benetanegia
TheMailMan78Those charts are much newer then the 5850 release. Hes right. The 5850 was 250-260 when it came out. That only lasted about a week however.

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/
Sorry but the one you posted is newer. :)
It is posible that the MSRP changed when that review was made but on launch day (22 september)

Before trying to correct someone's claims, read the links at least.:shadedshu
by W1zzard, on Sep 22nd 2009, in Video Cards. Manufacturer: AMD
AMD's new Radeon HD 5800 Series has been surrounded by a lot of secrecy in the last months because AMD was very careful with providing information to anyone. Once the press had been briefed however this turned to the exact opposite. In the last few weeks not a single day has passed where no new leaked information turned up in some Internet forum. As you probably remember, we had an article collecting all the leaked images, which offered a huge amount of speculative information. But now the NDA is expired and we can provide you with our own pictures and performance data.

Today AMD introduces two new cards: the ATI Radeon HD 5850 and the ATI Radeon HD 5870.... [...]
The second link is from November (meaning that if MSRP had already changed Xbit didn't know lol), but here's a link from Xbit Labs at the launch day:

www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5870_2.html#sect0

On first paragraph we can read:
The recommended price of the new products is $399 and $299, respectively.
Taddaaaaaaa!!!!

EDIT: After thinking about this a little bit more, I'm willing to reach an agreement. It is very probable that the original MSRP when the cards were "paperlaunched" (22 S) was 300 and 400, so I am right. And it's also posible that when the cards actually launched 2 weeks later MSRP was 260, because I remember that you didn't have to read more than 3 posts in any review discussion before finding a complain about the high price (remember that people was expecting same price as with HD4800). AMD was smart and lowered the price, hoping no one would remember the original price. But well I do. :)
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#47
TheMailMan78
Big Member
BenetanegiaSorry but the one you posted is newer. :)
It is posible that the MSRP changed when that review was made but on launch day (22 september)

Before trying to correct someone's claims, read the links at least.:shadedshu




The second link is from November (meaning that if MSRP had already changed Xbit didn't know lol), but here's a link from Xbit Labs at the launch day:

www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd5870_2.html#sect0

On first paragraph we can read:



Taddaaaaaaa!!!!
The thing is there are people on this very forum that bought a 5850 within the first few weeks for 250-260 and the review I posted also showed that. Argue all you want but thats a fact. I kicked myself for waiting like I did. It cost me 50 bucks because I didnt buy it on day one. The only reason the price went up was demand was so damn high.
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#49
Benetanegia
TheMailMan78The thing is there are people on this very forum that bought a 5850 within the first few weeks for 250-260 and the review I posted also showed that. Argue all you want but thats a fact. I kicked myself for waiting like I did. It cost me 50 bucks because I didnt buy it on day one. The only reason the price went up was demand was so damn high.
Launch cards all (ALL=HIS, Saphire and Asus lol) had $30 off deal. I remember that very well too. So maybe that's why they got them so cheap, but believe me and believe the links because I didn0t make them up.
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#50
erocker
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I paid $289 for each of my Diamond 5850's from Newegg the day they were released.
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