Monday, August 9th 2010

GF100 512 Core Graphics Card Tested Against GeForce GTX 480

NVIDIA seems to have overcome initial hiccups with the GF100 graphics processor, and could release a new graphics card that makes use of all 512 CUDA cores, and 64 TMUs on the GPU. The GeForce GTX 480 was initially released as a top SKU based on the GF100, with 480 out of the 512 CUDA cores enabled. What NVIDIA calls the new SKU is subject to some speculation. While GPU-Z screenshots show that the 512 core model has the same device ID (hence the same name, GeForce GTX 480), leading us to believe that this is a specifications update for the same SKU à la GeForce GTX 260 (216 SP), it seems possible that the release-grade models could carry a different device ID and name.

Expreview carried out a couple of tests on the 512 core "GTX 480" graphics card, and compared it to the 480 core model that's out in the market. NVIDIA GeForce 258.96 drivers were used. The 512 core card got a GPU Score of 10,072 points compared to 9,521 points of the 480 core card, in 3DMark Vantage Extreme preset. The additional TMUs showed an evident impact on the texture fillrate, 41.55 GTexel/s for the 512 core card against 38.82 GTexel/s for the 480 core card.
In the second test, Crysis Warhead, with Enthusiast preset, 1920 x 1080 px, and 8x AA, the 512 core card churned out a framerate of 34.72 fps, while the 480 core card trailed at 32.96 fps. In this short bench, the 512 core laden GF100 card is 5~6% faster than the GeForce GTX 480. If NVIDIA manages to release the SKU at the same price-point as the GTX 480 as it did with the GTX 260-216, it will increase NVIDIA's competitiveness further against AMD's ATI Radeon HD 5970, which is still the fastest graphics SKU in the market. Below are screenshot comparing scores of both cards.
Source: Expreview
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90 Comments on GF100 512 Core Graphics Card Tested Against GeForce GTX 480

#76
Hayder_Master
im just bout new zotac GTX480 AMP i want to say "i want to put my 480 in your ass nvidia"
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#77
Meizuman
Of course only a minor thing but it does use a different PCB.. And of course that could just be some leaked ES card with AC cooler slapped on to it... who knows. But I believe that the GF100 has been doomed from beginning.
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#78
Bjorn_Of_Iceland

Had to post this lol.

Id just rather Overclock the 480 480sp, and still have +5% better perf and not humongous consumption
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#79
HillBeast
CDdude55Both those statements are wrong lol.(yours and HillBeast's)
How was I wrong? The GTX480 512SP is by far has the highest performance out of any single core card. How is that wrong?
erocker204 extra watts for 32 extra "Cuda cores"?! Something isn't right. I wonder if this website took a standard GTX480 and got their hands on a 512 core bios.
No it is definitely a different PCB. It has 2 8 pin power connectors and different capacitors and stuff.
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#80
pantherx12
CDdude55Again as erocker said, i don't understand how 32 extra SP's can give a card an extra 200w+. It's still the same architecture, so a slight bump in cuda cores shouldn't raise the wattage that high.
Could be damaged, the 955 I bought of ( I think coldstorm) was broken mid- Atlantic.

But didn;t know at the time so popped in in and tried to get it to work, pluged everything in and went upstairs for a bit and came down to find my 120 EX BURNING hot to touch, the heat-sink must of been 70c or so.
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#81
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
HillBeastHow was I wrong? The GTX480 512SP is by far has the highest performance out of any single core card. How is that wrong?
Your statement: ''Um, what was it I was going to say? Oh right, "BWAHAHAHAHAHA to the fools who bought the GTX480 with the assumption it would be the most powerful card from this generation. Sucks to be you. The 512SP version is better."''

Ya, it'll be better by about two frames. How is someone a fool for buying a GTX 480 just because they don't have an extra 32 cuda cores on there card?.
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#82
HillBeast
CDdude55Your statement: ''Um, what was it I was going to say? Oh right, "BWAHAHAHAHAHA to the fools who bought the GTX480 with the assumption it would be the most powerful card from this generation. Sucks to be you. The 512SP version is better."''

Ya, it'll be better by about two frames. How is someone a fool for buying a GTX 480 just because they don't have an extra 32 cuda cores on there card?.
Because my statement is still correct. I never said it was miles better, just that it's better. 2 FPS is better.
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#83
a_ump
Bjorn_Of_Iceland
Had to post this lol.

Id just rather Overclock the 480 480sp, and still have +5% better perf and not humongous consumption
yea lol no way in hell i believe that graph
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#84
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
HillBeastBecause my statement is still correct. I never said it was miles better, just that it's better. 2 FPS is better.
In that logic yes, but in reality it's not much better in terms of an actual difference between a regular 480. So when you say something like ''sucks for people who bought a 480, such fools'', it's really you who ends up looking like a fool.(no offense);)
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#85
HillBeast
CDdude55In that logic yes, but in reality it's not much better in terms of an actual difference between a regular 480. So when you say something like ''sucks for people who bought a 480, such fools'', it's really you who ends up looking like a fool.(no offense);)
The way I look at it is I hate GF100, and I was trying to find something to praise about it. Anyone who buys on of these would have to have acknowledged that it's really hot and powerful and they will most likely be running an all out system with no concerns for power consumption. In that sense, this is the better choice.

If however you want performance AND low power consumption, nothing can beat the Radeon 5850.
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#86
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
HillBeastThe way I look at it is I hate GF100, and I was trying to find something to praise about it. Anyone who buys on of these would have to have acknowledged that it's really hot and powerful and they will most likely be running an all out system with no concerns for power consumption. In that sense, this is the better choice.

If however you want performance AND low power consumption, nothing can beat the Radeon 5850.
I'm running two 470's in SLI... honestly, it's not as hot as it's hyped up to be. And as i have said before, anyone who has the funds for a video card costing $350-$500, they should have enough to afford a decent PSU to power it, so that should be a non issue to, it's a high end card.. it should be expected. And of course Fermi is overall very powerful.:)

I agree that if you want good performance and if you can't afford or don't want a beefier PSU, then the 5850 is definitely a great choice.
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#87
newfellow
slyfox2151er... becouse its running in EXTREAM mode??

id like to see a 5850 get anywhere near 9000 points in extream
O my mistake..
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#88
LAN_deRf_HA
HillBeastThe GTX480 512SP is by far has the highest performance out of any single core card.
HillBeastI never said it was miles better, just that it's better. 2 FPS is better.
While technically you didn't say miles, you did phrase it as if referring to a great distance.
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#89
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
"Better" is subjective and measured in a number of ways.... power consumption, heat output, general performance etc etc, now in this context "faster" may be a better term to use.

Funny thing is, most fermi owners love their cards, few moan about power consumption or heat output, many have "upgraded" from a 5850 or 5870 so I cannot really understand many of the arguments. It's all very well being a "pureist" and saying that it's consumption and heat are too great for me to buy it, however if most of those people were offered the option of card A at $300 for a level of performance with lower consumption and heat or for the same price offered card B with 10% more performance and 30% more consumption and heat.... still many would take card B.

As for this, I cannot beleive these power consumption figures, do the math, even with a new PCB, 32 more shaders and even with a stock speed of 800mhz I cannot for the life of me see how it could ever hit that consumption..... the GTX260 216SP did similar things when compared to this "upgrade", I kept the oold 192SP version as often with the less SP's the cards overclock better anyways.
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#90
HillBeast
LAN_deRf_HAWhile technically you didn't say miles, you did phrase it as if referring to a great distance.
Why is everyone still caught up on my post. Okay I dun goof'd saying it's far better, but you have to consider when I wrote it the review wasn't up so how was I to know the 32 extra cores were worth nothing in gaming.

But that's the thing, they are only worth 2 FPS in games but if you were to do something that utilised the card more like running those hair demos that NVIDIA do or something using heaps of CUDA, then the 512 core will come into a league of it's own. It's being compared on a system which this card is most likely not designed for.

At this stage there is no game which can truly stress cards properly anymore. 99% of games are console ports that can work on a 7900GTX or a Radeon HD2800. They aren't very powerful cards and now we're getting these 40nm monoliths. Of course games benchmarks aren't going to be accurate to show off some SPs being unlocked. The only way to test this now is in a CUDA/OpenCL benchmark. That is where this card will shine.

Now stop quoting me. I'm sick of explaining myself. These cards are made for the uber Folders and SETI and such, not n00bs who play Spider Solitaire. If you are buying one of these cards, you will have most likely an unlimited budget and power consumption is the least of your worries. That is what this card is for and that is why it is better than the GTX480: It is offering unrestricted performance at a high cost to those who NEED it.

If you don't like this card (because I certainly don't) then get a Radeon HD 5850. I hate GF100, and I am defending it because you guys are not seeing my point. If I have to come back here and explain myself again, I might loose my mind.
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