qubitDear god, just how broken is this driver it needs so many hotfixes? I'm now waiting for hotfix Z! :eek: ;)

They aren't broken badly at all - they're just putting in a lot of extra effort to add new features and performance improvements for everyone. This release was to add MLAA for 5k cards - the other fixes/improvements are there just because they were ready and why not release them if you're putting out a new driver?

I'm still on 10.10 stock as it works fine for me - I *may* upgrade to these for MLAA although my card does FSAA in all my games fine anyway.

SteevoMy god, they add features that didn't have time to make it into the final.......what if they add more features that the card never had when I bought it. The BASTARDS!!!!!

BTW. I'm now waiting on the "z" class ATI dragon warship driver with a cloaking device so I can remove the klingon drivers.



ATI: Hey guys, were giving you more enhancements, and some performance increases. But we promise not to kill your cards.
You: Wahhhh, more features, I can't even use the features I have to max out my scorez in benchmarking....


If you don't like it, don't use it. But stop your bitching, as I for one would love some MLAA action in a few games.

I hate Klingon's. I end up using a toilet brush to push them down.

human_errorThey aren't broken badly at all - they're just putting in a lot of extra effort to add new features and performance improvements for everyone. This release was to add MLAA for 5k cards - the other fixes/improvements are there just because they were ready and why not release them if you're putting out a new driver?

I'm still on 10.10 stock as it works fine for me - I *may* upgrade to these for MLAA although my card does FSAA in all my games fine anyway.

Not in some, due to the graphics engine of the game. But MLAA overcomes that by applying it after the final render.

TheMailMan78I hate Klingon's. I end up using a toilet brush to push them down.

just trim your butthair already. goddamned wookie.




also: please stop with the offtopic nonsense. we're hurting the ATI haters brains enough already.

I'm waiting on 10.11's. Hopefully they've fixed the color problem by then, sheesh. What good is MLAA to me if the screen turns pink...:mad:

If ATI could do one thing for us, and for themselves it would be to get F@H better supported on their hardware. I stopped running it on my home PC as it was saturating the system and causing occasional glitches.


Color problem fix is in numerous threads, it takes about 1 minute to perform, if you had fully calibrated your monitor it would never occur as it wouldn't be reading the EDID anyway.

EastCoasthandleI'm waiting on 10.11's. Hopefully they've fixed the color problem by then, sheesh. What good is MLAA to me if the screen turns pink...:mad:

Just go and lower the red hue value in the colour options to make it back to normal - did that as soon as my screen went pink on official release day and havn't had to do anything since.

I think now its time AMD stopped making a monthly driver set, I see no need for it and following the amount of hotfixes, they obviously aren't upto making a new one every month or there wouldn't be so many damn fixes to them.

Ok the naming scheme is cool and easy to understand, (year/Month), but for gods sake make a new cool driver name scheme and just release them when they're finished already??

NdMk2o1oI think now its time AMD stopped making a monthly driver set, I see no need for it and following the amount of hotfixes, they obviously aren't upto making a new one every month or there wouldn't be so many damn fixes to them.

Ok the naming scheme is cool and easy to understand, (year/Month), but for gods sake make a new cool driver name scheme and just release them when they're finished already??

i much prefer this, over how nvidia handled the 8800GTX/G80 launch. launch drivers crashed constantly, and took over 3 months before the first 'fix' was released.

these are specific fixes for people who need them. no one is being forced to update, so by saying beta/hotfix releases are a negative thing is just... sheer madness. i'd call it stupidity, but it goes beyond that.


If ATI release a driver every month with 10 fixes, or ten drivers in a month adding one fix at a time, what makes the first so superior? at least now, those among us willing to use beta drivers can get the fixes we need a few weeks (or even months) earlier.

rather have hotfixes than wait six months for a bloody update, AND if its not broke dont fix it meaning if your card works don't use new drivers.

I had the pink problem and guess what? i don't care i fixed it easy with a 2 second adjustment. As for everything else all i can say is no probs here.

Makes me wonder when will they start using incrimental update system like the one used in antivirus software. With slightly lower check rate, but would be nice. Automatic driver updating, less bandwidth used etc etc.

RejZoRMakes me wonder when will they start using incrimental update system like the one used in antivirus software. With slightly lower check rate, but would be nice. Automatic driver updating, less bandwidth used etc etc.

They already have it. Its in Steam.

Download is up on TPU servers (linked in the news post). No more "AMD bad link fail" issue.

It's not incrimental as far as i know, meaning it will download full package each time.

RejZoRMakes me wonder when will they start using incrimental update system like the one used in antivirus software. With slightly lower check rate, but would be nice. Automatic driver updating, less bandwidth used etc etc.

Ati has recommended leaving your old driver, and installing newer ones right over top of old ones, for some time now. The days of uninstall before installing a new driver are over. You sohuld only uninstall teh driver is the install fails to complete properly. Htat's as incremental as we'll ever get.

Please hit up Terry Makedon if you question this install method. As the head of the Catalyst team for 10+ years, I'm personally gonna listen to what he says.

Well i was doing that with drivers since GeForce 2 MX and since Radeon 9600 Pro. There was still reboot involved which is not needed anymore but i was never removing drivers first. And never had any problems with anything.

Though there is one funny thing with MLAA. In general it works fine, but in GTA Vice City it's working great during the night cycle but hardly does anything during the day cycle. It seems like the game is shading scenery in such a way during a day that MLAA fails to be applied properly.

W1zzardwhat if we run out of letters in the alphabet?

add some of the norwegian letters in our alphabet.

At the end: æ ø å
its also danish.

Should be able to make 29 hotfixes every month, that is if i can count how many letters there is in alphabet..

csendesmark10.11 already finished, they wont change it, sent for ms to supervise the quality

Oh darn it. Then I aint upgrading from 10.9 till 10.12 comes I guess

Still cruising along on 10.9, but MLAA for 5000 series? Hell yeah! Giving 10.10e a try. :rockout:

SteevoIf ATI could do one thing for us, and for themselves it would be to get F@H better supported on their hardware. I stopped running it on my home PC as it was saturating the system and causing occasional glitches.


Color problem fix is in numerous threads, it takes about 1 minute to perform, if you had fully calibrated your monitor it would never occur as it wouldn't be reading the EDID anyway.

LOL, there is no permanent fix for this problem from the user end. And you obviously don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You don't need a calibrated monitor to prevent it from turning pink just because someone wants to use the Color Tab. Calibration isn't the issue. It's something they did to the drivers. All someone can do is use default but if you want to use the color tab you have to skip 10.10 until it's fixed in another driver release. Anyway, a beta tester already confirmed that AMD fixed the problem they've yet to release it. It was my thought they would have done so with this new hotfix. However, that's not the case.

human_errorJust go and lower the red hue value in the colour options to make it back to normal - did that as soon as my screen went pink on official release day and havn't had to do anything since.

That doesn't work as that would only over saturation another color. The only temp solution is to use default. It's said that AMD fix this already but have yet to release it.

W1zzardwhat if we run out of letters in the alphabet?

a driver that works as it should ? :laugh:

bah I've still got to wait on 10.11 drivers, mobility cards only get the update on a monthly basis, I really hope all these hotfixes make their way into the mobility 10.11 build.

I can bet a lot of people with Mobility 5xxx series cards are dying to try MLAA

It's a good thing that AMD has the BALLS to step up and work on fixing problems in games, and adding new features. You have to give them some credit for trying. Remeber a while back when Nvidia always had the better drivers? Well.. that is changing because AMD is making a smart move to give the end user what they want instead of beating around the bush and only wanting your money for bad drivers. I'm tierd of people doging AMD all the time on their drivers when they are trying their best to fix problems. AMD has come a long ways in the past 5 years on driver support. I'm still on the 10.10s because I don't like using beta drivers because I've had issues like BSODS and other problems, and not only with beta AMD drivers, but also with NVIDIA. Also MLAA looks very promising once the bugs and optimizations are smoothed out. And what is NVIDIAs response to this MLAA nothing, so there you go, AMD is doing their job! Thankyou very much! Good ol AMD :rockout:!!!

ONE MORE THING, PEOPLE THEY ARE CALLED BETA DRIVERS FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT M$ WHQL CERTED, SO DON'T COMPLAIN IF IT DOENS'T FIX YOUR PROBLEMS OR GIVES YOU MORE!! COMPRENDO????

Link108It's a good thing that AMD has the BALLS to step up and work on fixing problems in games, and adding new features. You have to give them some credit for trying. Remeber a while back when Nvidia always had the better drivers? Well.. that is changing because AMD is making a smart move to give the end user what they want instead of beating around the bush and only wanting your money for bad drivers. I'm tierd of people doging AMD all the time on their drivers when they are trying their best to fix problems. AMD has come a long ways in the past 5 years on driver support. I'm still on the 10.10s because I don't like using beta drivers because I've had issues like BSODS and other problems, and not only with beta AMD drivers, but also with NVIDIA. Also MLAA looks very promising once the bugs and optimizations are smoothed out. And what is NVIDIAs response to this MLAA nothing, so there you go, AMD is doing their job! Thankyou very much! Good ol AMD :rockout:!!!

ONE MORE THING, PEOPLE THEY ARE CALLED BETA DRIVERS FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT M$ WHQL CERTED, SO DON'T COMPLAIN IF IT DOENS'T FIX YOUR PROBLEMS OR GIVES YOU MORE!! COMPRENDO????

Sorry but I disagree with that line of thinking. If one does find problems they should report them to AMD. How else will they know there is a problem? Being thankful is only beneficial when done in moderation. There are other things a person is capable of doing besides show gratitude. For example the pink tint problem was reported by many. At this point the problem is supposed to be fixed. We are just waiting for them to release the drivers. However, until then if a particular problem effects that individual any other additions to the drivers (MLAA) become moot until their main problem with the driver is fixed (pink tint).

The question is, how wide is this "pink" problem globally. If there are just 5 such cases and none are reproducible, you can kiss any fixes goodbye. Personally i never had it and never heard of it except in your case. So it's not really a common problem... Best bet would be to get in touch with Terry, though don't expect much.