Tuesday, July 5th 2011

Intel Ivy Bridge Dual-Core Put Through Clock-to-Clock Benches Against Sandy Bridge

Taiwanese PC enthusiast Coolaler has a new Ivy Bridge LGA1155 dual-core engineering sample to play with, and wasted no time in putting it through some tests. The sample has two cores, four threads with HyperThreading enabled, clock speed of 1.80 GHz, 256 KB L2 cache per core, and 4 MB shared L3 cache. It is running on an Intel P67 chipset-based motherboard with 8 GB of dual-channel DDR3-1600 MHz memory. At 1.80 GHz, it may not be game for absolute performance figures since it's unlikely that Intel will release a chip with that clock speed unless it has unreal performance:clockspeed gains over Sandy Bridge; but it's good enough for clock-to-clock performance comparisons between Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge. A Core i5-2400 was clocked at 1.80 GHz with 18x BClk multiplier, and put through a single-threaded benchmark, and a multithreaded one.

The cache and memory benchmark that measures bandwidth and latency of caches and memory was unable to measure bandwidth, but measured some latencies. The L1 cache at 2.2 nanoseconds (ns), and L2 at 2.9 ns. Next, the Ivy Bridge DC, and the Core i5-2400 (@ 1.80 GHz) testbeds were put through CPUMark 99, where Ivy Bridge DC scored 278 points, and Core i5-2400 clocked at 1.80 GHz scored closely followed at 276 points. Moving on to multithreaded performance, the two were put through Cinebench 11.5 64-bit. The Ivy Bridge DC chip scored 1.81 points; while the Core i5-2400 clocked at 1.80 GHz, scored 2.61 points. Coolaler promises more benches.
Source: Coolaler
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70 Comments on Intel Ivy Bridge Dual-Core Put Through Clock-to-Clock Benches Against Sandy Bridge

#26
bear jesus
Surly the single core test when both running the same speed the ivy bridge chip should have showed a bigger increase?

Although i admit i have no clue of the relativity of scores within a benchmark i don't use.
MabanAre we going to see die size reported as volume instead of area? Also I wonder what the die shots will look like.
It will still be area and the die shots will look pretty similar, i think the term 3d is not the best way to describe the new transistor as transistors are currently 3d just pretty flat/thin and the new transistors are just taller with more gate material/higher surface area.

I think calling them 3d often gives the idea that the circuit would be 3d as in could be made in a cube or something yet they are still pretty much flat slices of silicone with circuit printed on to it like they are now, it's kind of like they are just using more ink.

Even though i dislike the transistor naming i can't wait to see how they perform on retail chips, i hope the sample used here is early enough that there is more improvements to come before release and hopefully much higher clocked, preferably well over double this chips speed.
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#27
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
LAN_deRf_HAWhat I'm hoping for is that the massive power/heat savings from the die shrink + 3d will give us ridiculously high overclocks. I just worry we might be held back by durability issues.
thats the stuff i want to know as well.


i'm all for more thermally efficient hardware, even if performance doesnt make big leaps and bounds.
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#28
kirtar
theJesusTechnically, he used auto-detect, which obviously failed. You are right though; if you select Chinese as the source, it translates as, "This on Techpowerup the"
Chinese and Japanese share enough characters that I'm not surprised that it detected incorrectly. What's the latest rumor-mill information regarding Ivy Bridge release date?
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#29
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
will this beat bulldozer?
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#30
suraswami
de.das.dudewill this beat bulldozer?
ha ha I was just looking for this post. :laugh:
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#31
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
suraswamiha ha I was just looking for this post. :laugh:
jackpot :D
but i dont want it to beat bulldozer. AMD deserves more limelight than intel.
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#32
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
de.das.dudejackpot :D
but i dont want it to beat bulldozer. AMD deserves more limelight than intel.
Why ? Intel is doing a great job . AMD seems to be doing just fine . Why are there so many AMD fanboys ?

I can not nor will not believe these results . IVY Bridge is too far off and an Engineering sample given to some Japanese guy ( Much like BD ) is just not going to cut it with me . No real BM at all . I just do not get it some how some Japanese guy always gets the first one and we all run going look here it is ! It is like saying look there is Jesus Christ RIGHT OVER THERE ! I do not believe it at all . :shadedshu :slap:
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#33
kirtar
tricksonWhy ? Intel is doing a great job . AMD seems to be doing just fine . Why are there so many AMD fanboys ?

I can not nor will not believe these results . IVY Bridge is too far off and an Engineering sample given to some Japanese guy ( Much like BD ) is just not going to cut it with me . No real BM at all . I just do not get it some how some Japanese guy always gets the first one and we all run going look here it is ! It is like saying look there is Jesus Christ RIGHT OVER THERE ! I do not believe it at all . :shadedshu :slap:
You, sir, clearly didn't even read the thread (it's a Chinese site). As for the BD remarks, all I care is if it's a competitive product to at least SB stuff.
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#34
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
kirtarYou, sir, clearly didn't even read the thread (it's a Chinese site). As for the BD remarks, all I care is if it's a competitive product to at least SB stuff.
Japanese , Chinese WHO CARES ? They are all the same to me as I can not READ any of it any way . It is always some foreigner NEVER some one in the USA NEVER ! Never some one that we can trust NEVER ! Not till they hit the main stream market that is !
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#35
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
de.das.dudejackpot :D
but i dont want it to beat bulldozer. AMD deserves more limelight than intel.
What the market doesn't deserve is consumer-socialism (or fanboyism). It will encourage mediocrity and stifle meritocracy.
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#36
Pestilence
MelvisSo an improvement but nothing WOW realy over SB?
Ivy Bridge is just the "Tick" in Intel's scheme. We won't see any great improvements till the "Tock" and Haswell.

Also it's a dual core vs a quad core.

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#37
kirtar
PestilenceIvy Bridge is just the "Tick" in Intel's scheme. We won't see any great improvements till the "Tock" and Haswell.

Also it's a dual core vs a quad core.

www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Intel-Tick-Tock.jpg
Yup, just a shrink, not much of a huge architectural overhaul. Also good catch on the dual vs quad. I assumed they were smart enough to do dual vs dual
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#38
cheesy999
kirtarChinese and Japanese share enough characters that I'm not surprised that it detected incorrectly
yeah, must of got confused and just picked the coolest language :cool: (Japanese of course)


1.8ghz sounds like a mobile proccesor to me, you probably looking at something like a core i3 3xxxM

EDIT: Didn't notice there was a second page...
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#40
mumak
Ivy will bring certain ehnancements to many parts of the CPU and iGPU, including new features to improve performace, power management and security. But as for each Tick the most advancement is in the process technology.
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#41
Trackr
:rolleyes:

They compared 4 core/4 thread vs. 2 core/4 thread.

Would have made much more sense to use a 2500k and disable two core.

Inconclusive.
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#42
Static~Charge
Ivy Bridge processor (2 cores/4 threads) compared to a Sandy Bridge Core i5-2400 (4 cores/4 threads)? Not a accurate comparison. The Core i5-2400 has twice as many cores (but the same number of threads) and 50% more Level 3 cache. It would have been better to pit the Ivy Bridge chip against an underclocked Core i3-2100 instead.
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#43
Sabishii Hito
tricksonJapanese , Chinese WHO CARES ? They are all the same to me as I can not READ any of it any way . It is always some foreigner NEVER some one in the USA NEVER ! Never some one that we can trust NEVER ! Not till they hit the main stream market that is !
You're a foreigner to most of the world's population. And what makes you think someone in the USA is more trustworthy than someone from an Asian country? :rolleyes:
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#44
theJesus
tricksonIt is like saying look there is Jesus Christ RIGHT OVER THERE ! I do not believe it at all . :shadedshu :slap:
Why not? :p
tricksonJapanese , Chinese WHO CARES ? They are all the same to me as I can not READ any of it any way . It is always some foreigner NEVER some one in the USA NEVER ! Never some one that we can trust NEVER ! Not till they hit the main stream market that is !
I completely agree with you. Why would anybody trust those shifty Asians? Americans are clearly the most trustworthy.

:rolleyes:
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#45
antuk15
Intel said IB would be 20% faster per-clock then SB.... I don't see it
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#46
X1REME
antuk15Intel said IB would be 20% faster per-clock then SB.... I don't see it
That’s because you don’t have Intel glasses on as others do, lol
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#47
Velvet Wafer
tricksonJapanese , Chinese WHO CARES ? They are all the same to me as I can not READ any of it any way . It is always some foreigner NEVER some one in the USA NEVER ! Never some one that we can trust NEVER ! Not till they hit the main stream market that is !
There are still Germans in this World... without them, this Forums wouldnt even exist.;)
It has a Reason, that AMD built its Fabs here (for example).
You will NEVER beat German Engineering!:p

(man, i just love to poke american patriots... so much fun :D)
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#48
Maban
bear jesusIt will still be area and the die shots will look pretty similar, i think the term 3d is not the best way to describe the new transistor as transistors are currently 3d just pretty flat/thin and the new transistors are just taller with more gate material/higher surface area.

I think calling them 3d often gives the idea that the circuit would be 3d as in could be made in a cube or something yet they are still pretty much flat slices of silicone with circuit printed on to it like they are now, it's kind of like they are just using more ink.
Yes, I'm sure the layers will be limited to probably 3-5. Still very thin and surely not cubelike cube-like. But I bet, depending on how it's done, it may look quite odd.
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#49
extrasalty
The true 3D stacked chips from IBM will be more cube-like. The problem is the cooling, since the density will go up tremendously. The current intel's "3D" is more like a flat fabric with wrinkles.
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#50
bear jesus
I really hope that the variables in the early testing mean that we are not being shown what ivy bridge can really do, it would have been nice to see a dual threaded dual core from ivy beat a single threaded quad core from sandy but i guess this just shows once more that cores are better than threads.
MabanYes, I'm sure the layers will be limited to probably 3-5. Still very thin and surely not cubelike cube-like. But I bet, depending on how it's done, it may look quite odd.
apart from the usual layers used in current lithography there are no real "layers", its still pretty much a printed circuit on a flat sheet of silicone, from what i have read it really is that the ink is thicker an there is more gate material.
extrasaltyThe true 3D stacked chips from IBM will be more cube-like. The problem is the cooling, since the density will go up tremendously. The current intel's "3D" is more like a flat fabric with wrinkles.
2.bp.blogspot.com/_VyTCyizqrHs/S5rpDgnbMUI/AAAAAAAAG7s/-w5-3PR2jH4/s400/ibm3dchip.jpg
That is exactly why i dislike this 3d transistor naming as most people instantly think 3d means chips like in the picture you posted yet intel's 3d transistor make people think 3d chip an really its still very close to normal chips and techniques although an improvement of course.


I'm not saying i dislike anything about the new transistor or anything like that i just dislike how it was named and the idea it gives so many people an that idea is the kind of 3d chip that can be made in a cube or other 3d shape not just a pcb printed on a flat sheet of silicone.
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