Wednesday, August 31st 2011

Samsung Announces New 27-inch 3D LED Monitor for Gaming

Samsung launched a new PC monitor targeting 3D gaming (as in gaming with stereo 3D). The SyncMaster S27A750D is a 27-inch LED-backlit LCD monitor that is geared for stereo 3D, thanks to support for 120 Hz refresh rate. The display boasts a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels, with 2 ms (GTG) response time. Other panel specifications include 10,000,000:1 Mega Dynamic Contrast Ratio, 1,000:1 static contrast ratio, and 300 cd/m² brightness.

The SyncMaster S27A750D is equipped with ambient light sensors to adjust brightness accordingly, and a motion sensor that detects if the user is away, so it can dim down the panel and save power in the process. Display inputs include HDMI and DisplayPort. A pair of 3D shutter glasses come bundled. The SyncMaster S27A750D is priced at €518, on pre-order.
Source: TechConnect Magazine
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42 Comments on Samsung Announces New 27-inch 3D LED Monitor for Gaming

#26
[H]@RD5TUFF
Price seems high and the resolution is low IMO.
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#27
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
[H]@RD5TUFFPrice seems high and the resolution is low IMO.
high compared to what? low compared to what?
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#28
buggalugs
NdMk2o1oThey are not 2 different tech's, ie: you have 120hz, and bam you have 3d also

Still for a 27" monitor at 1080p it is horribly overpriced and under spec'd, in all honesty I could care less about 3d ffs, give me some more real estate especially on a 27" monitor, 1900x1200(+upwards) would be nice and not any more expensive to produce, 3d or not for $600 there are much better 27" monitors out there for that kind of money, I mean who do they think they are? Apple??
You obviously havent tried a 120Hz monitor for gaming. Talking about 120Hz not 3D. If you're a gamer and you dont have a 120Hz monitor you're missing out.

Anyway as i said, we have the SA750 and SA950 series for sale in Australia, although stock hasnt been regular you can buy the 27" for around $500 AUD/US.

BTW, Just to be clear, apart from 120Hz, this isnt your average TN screen. It does more than 100% of sRGB colour. The colours are better than 6 bit IPS panels like the U2311.


This review is for the 950 but the panel is the same...

www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/samsung-sa950_6.html#sect0

The image quality is very good, surprisingly good for a TN, these monitors are selling like hotcakes and people are very happy with it. Most stores sell out of stock as soon as it arrives, thats why some stores are quoting a high price, they are selling at any price.
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#29
General Lee
It's taken a long time for this version to hit the market. The 950D has been around for a while now. If I was searching for a 27" 120 Hz panel I'd probably pick that one over this. But I'm actually more interested in the 23" 750D if it can be found at a decent price. This monitor looks to have fairly small bezels so it would fit nicely as the center monitor in my Eyefinity config. At the moment I have the LG 23" 120 Hz monitor but it's just butt ugly and has a fairly large bezel. Also the Samsung monitor should have a bit higher quality panel too.
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#30
caleb
2 highly anticipated shooters coming up if there was a moment for large/HD/3D screens to bloom now its the time.
This would be nice for Battlefield 3 yumm yumm 27 inches and 3D.
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#31
dsdsdk
Why glossy Samsung?! Why?
Why no DVI for 750 model?
Why not support 3D vision?
Why having to change manually to 3D mode?

Isnt 1920x1080 @ 120hz the max resolution for DVI bandwidth?
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#32
TheLaughingMan
dsdsdkWhy glossy Samsung?! Why?
Why no DVI for 750 model?
Why not support 3D vision?
Why having to change manually to 3D mode?

Isnt 1920x1080 @ 120hz the max resolution for DVI bandwidth?
1. It is not glossy, that is a studio light. I don't think 3D monitors or TVs can use a matte finish because it affects the light from the display to much. The Ultra clear screen this monitor is using does a good job of defusing reflective light, but its not perfect.

2. I no idea honestly. I guess they wanted to keep things small and a DVI plug is rather large and would eat up a lot of room in the small stand.

3. 3D Vision is just a name used by Nvidia for their 3D Tech. Monitors do not "support it" they are simply either 3D capable or not. This one is 3D so you can use whatever technology you want to generate a 3D picture.

4. How would you do that automatically? I am sure when you turn on 3D on your computer it will send a signal to the monitor to switch to 3D mode, this is still technically a manual switch as the monitor did not detect this and set itself. It was told by your computer to change. This is just semantics.

5. No. Maximum resolution for Dual link DVI-D is 1920 x 1200 @ 120 Hz. But that is just the different between 16:9 and 16:10. This monitor is 16:9 so 1920 x 1080. I am sure they will released a 760 or something that is 16:10.

Oh and newegg.com has it listed now at $600: SAMSUNG S27A750D Black 27" 2ms Full HD 3D LED Back...

Which begs the question considering Easy's link from earlier. Did the Euro get weaker or the dollar stronger?
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#33
Athlonite
I noticed no ones said whether or not it runs 120Hz in normal 2d mode and asfar as I'm aware 120HZ for 3D is just 2 x 60Hz signals
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#34
TheLaughingMan
Well I can't say for sure, but it does list 120 Hz as a input it will accept. And it has a 2D to 3D upconverter. Those features usually mean the monitor is true 120 Hz and switches to 2 x 60 Hz for 3D. Also Samsung is one of 2 companies that refuse to use gimmicks or tricks to get 120 Hz. There should be no reason you can't run this at 120 Hz in 2D mode.
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#35
Black Haru
AthloniteI noticed no ones said whether or not it runs 120Hz in normal 2d mode and asfar as I'm aware 120HZ for 3D is just 2 x 60Hz signals
a review of the 950d I read on another forum had a section on 2d 120hz. iirc it did very well.

edit* anyone know if DP or HDMI can actually run 120hz at decent quality? (cause the 750d has no DVI)
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#36
TheLaughingMan
Black Harua review of the 950d I read on another forum had a section on 2d 120hz. iirc it did very well.

edit* anyone know if DP or HDMI can actually run 120hz at decent quality? (cause the 750d has no DVI)
It would be the same or better. Remember HDMI = DVI-D + 8 channel HD audio. And DisplayPort = Dual Link DVI-D + 8 channel HD audio + new features
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#37
Horrux
That is most definitely my next monitor. I wonder if my 3D Vision will work on it or not. In theory it should but...
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#38
General Lee
HorruxThat is most definitely my next monitor. I wonder if my 3D Vision will work on it or not. In theory it should but...
It won't work, or at least the normal 3D Vision won't, the HDMI 1.4a Blu-Ray 3D support might. 3D Vision only works on Nvidia certified monitors, and this is not one, and doesn't even have the dual link DVI-D it requires. AMD on the other hand supports this monitor, and it and its sibling models are the first to support AMD HD3D through DisplayPort, hence they're the only monitors available that can do 1080p/60Hz with HD3D (since HDMI 1.4a limit is 720p/60Hz or 1080p/24Hz)
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#39
TheLaughingMan
General LeeIt won't work, or at least the normal 3D Vision won't, the HDMI 1.4a Blu-Ray 3D support might. 3D Vision only works on Nvidia certified monitors, and this is not one, and doesn't even have the dual link DVI-D it requires. AMD on the other hand supports this monitor, and it and its sibling models are the first to support AMD HD3D through DisplayPort, hence they're the only monitors available that can do 1080p/60Hz with HD3D (since HDMI 1.4a limit is 720p/60Hz or 1080p/24Hz)
Well there you go. Sorry it doesn't work with Nvidia 3D Vision.

Although you are completely wrong about HDMI 1.4a since it supports 4k video and will do 1920 x 1200 @60Hz. If that frame rate is a limitation is only for 3D movies and caused by the 3D tech, not the HDMI specs.
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#40
Horrux
General LeeIt won't work, or at least the normal 3D Vision won't, the HDMI 1.4a Blu-Ray 3D support might. 3D Vision only works on Nvidia certified monitors, and this is not one, and doesn't even have the dual link DVI-D it requires. AMD on the other hand supports this monitor, and it and its sibling models are the first to support AMD HD3D through DisplayPort, hence they're the only monitors available that can do 1080p/60Hz with HD3D (since HDMI 1.4a limit is 720p/60Hz or 1080p/24Hz)
Oh, right you are and damn me for looking at the wrong model. They introduced a slew of similar models, the S and T, the 27 and 23, the 750 and the 950...

My next purchase isn't the model mentioned in the opening post but the S27A950D

Which is similar but has a double-link DVI and comes with its own included 3D glasses (for AMD HD3D)... Still, my current (nVidia-certified) Samsung 2233rz does seem to be nothing else than a 120hz monitor with a double-link DVI, so at first glance, it looks like it might work...
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#41
General Lee
Technically yes, but I still don't think it'll work just because it's not certified by Nvidia. They might restrict 3D Vision for only those monitors in the drivers.

These monitors do have vendor independent 2D-3D conversion though, but I'm not sure how well that works in gaming since it might introduce too much input lag.
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#42
Horrux
General LeeTechnically yes, but I still don't think it'll work just because it's not certified by Nvidia. They might restrict 3D Vision for only those monitors in the drivers.

These monitors do have vendor independent 2D-3D conversion though, but I'm not sure how well that works in gaming since it might introduce too much input lag.
Hm, maybe someone will hack the 3D drivers just like SLI was hacked by changing the mobo's model string...
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