Jegergrimsince the boards will actually be future proof for a while

Are you sure? There were some news on certain problems with Ivy Bridge on current LGA1155 boards. Intel still hasn't confirmed it will work.

whilst the AM3+ will be a one time thing.

It seems it isn't. According to x-bitlabs, instead of Komodo on FM2, there will be a 28nm Piledriver (enhanced Bulldozer) based CPU in an AM3+ package, sometime next year.

dezzAre you sure? There were some news on certain problems with Ivy Bridge on current LGA1155 boards. Intel still hasn't confirmed it will work.



It seems it isn't. According to x-bitlabs, instead of Komodo on FM2, there will be a 28nm Piledriver (enhanced Bulldozer) based CPU in an AM3+ package, sometime next year.

According to AMD BD, and AM3+ will be phased out by the end of 2012, they need to change sockets to be able to add more cores.

CasecutterThis is an interesting development, but I'd ask how strong is Bottom Line Telecommunications in with AMD? I mean is BLT actually is sanctioned by AMD, to post pricing prior to release? Normally pre-order implies product is 15-20 day from being a deliverable?

I've seen Etailer's like this collect orders and process them, only to turn around and Email that the order is cancelled and that’s that. I don’t see why anyone would pre-order at this point. To me it more disinformation from whom or what for who knows, but legit that kind of tell me it less end of the month, I can’t see AMD permitting a distributor to list price and let that stew for a month that just bad stunt. I say BLT is a nothing-nobody, they got wind of some pricing (could be fake or divisionary) and took it upon themselves drive a little increase in traffic... could hurt. This honestly means nothing other than btarunr hoping for a little extra traffic here a tPU. :shadedshu

Btarunr does need more traffic. I wouldn't put it past BTL. I mean I saw at least 4 pre-orders for the FX-8150 already. And according to their policy, nothing is stopping them fro waiting til release and going, "It would seem our research yield a price too low for your pre-order....blah blah blah....you owe use another $100."

And it is working. How many people even heard of that site and those people until today?

[H]@RD5TUFFAccording to AMD BD, and AM3+ will be phased out by the end of 2012, they need to change sockets to be able to add more cores.

It is not to add more cores, it is to beef up the memory interface. Rumors say they will follow Intel to Quad-channeled memory with the second revision of BD at the end of 2012. That will require more pin outs and a new socket. There is also talk of moving the northbridge on-die for Bulldozer like the APUs.

I believe the latter part is correct as the APU seems to have been created to testing new techs like (32nm production, on-die GPU, on-die Northbridge, and preliminary memory controller testing). If anything would have failed expectations, they could write it off as the K10 design holding it back and bank on Trinity. Since it succeeded, good signs for AMD and new contracts for future sales.

Hate on them if you want. APUs are a nice shot of dopamine to make the pain go away. I want to see benchmarks like everyone else, but I also want to see Fold@Home BigAdv work on this.

Finally a f***ing news article i've being waiting for!!!!!!! Thanx, bta. The only other thing i wish for is that it'll be free, but than again who doesn't? :laugh: By end of October i'll have FX-8150, SaberTooth 990FX, 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz & AX1200W, yet not before actual benchies. Who of TPU staff getting ready to review FX-8150, bta? You? Wiz? :toast: to all, nevertheless. Thanx.

dezzIt seems it isn't. According to x-bitlabs, instead of Komodo on FM2, there will be a 28nm Piledriver (enhanced Bulldozer) based CPU in an AM3+ package, sometime next year.

Thats pretty good news, but what do you mean by "instead of Komodo on FM2", does that mean that they decided to cancel Komodo on the FM2 platform ?

[H]@RD5TUFFAccording to AMD BD, and AM3+ will be phased out by the end of 2012, they need to change sockets to be able to add more cores.

At least according to earlier plans. It could be that they've changed their minds, because of the delays.

JegergrimThats pretty good news, but what do you mean by "instead of Komodo on FM2", does that mean that they decided to cancel Komodo on the FM2 platform ?

Here is the link I forgot to add last time:
www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20110906193303_AMD_Cancels_Next_Gen_Komodo_Processor_Corona_Platform_in_Favour_of_New_Chips.html
But, take it with a teaspoon of salt...

Hold on everyone that is hot about the prices / performance.

AMD = half the price of Intel ? y / n ?
Well close to this usually, right ?
So the $188 should compete performance wise / is hoped to compete with a $376 Intel ?

The FX-8150 should / hoped too then compete with whatever Intel has for $500 ?

Still this is not close to 12cores / 16cores "BD" I was expecting so not sure if I want to go down the newly released nothing is working with or has been tested with the top of the line new AMD cpu's like so many bad past top of the line AMD newly released cpu experiences I have had.

Still resent AMD for that f-up but got a Intel Q9550 instead so I should be glad about AMD past cpu mistakes. (circa i7-920 release)
Will wait for 12/16cores from AMD before I spending money on AMD Desktop cpu's.

+1 for Sandy-e 1 month later comment, I just hope AMD has their plastic underwear on as this chilli con carne that Intel is bringing will cause some serious browning of the old folks AMD's pants.
Maybe AMD should market only to old retired people 45y+ or e-machine folks and Intel stick with the young crowd ?? :p

PS> AMD cpu Fanboy here, sorry AMD I am hoping that you are bringing some game not some "lame like we are used too" or you are blocked to do.
Still rooting for AMD would love to see some performance test on the FX-8150.

erockerPreorders on something relatively unknown and unproven? No thanks.

This is the right and wisest decision regarding this imo.

AMD, at least put some benchmark if you let some retailer slip preorder date.

afwSo ... these will compete with 2500k and 2600k I suppose ???

Octo-core to take on a hyperthreaded quad-core...not good for AMD.

erockerPreorders on something relatively unknown and unproven? No thanks.

last thing, and the! last thing i ever pre ordered was crysis 2 lmao <no thats a lie they were tho:eek: and so will amd at any mugs daft enough to pre order now, lovein the news tho i might yet see a proper review fore i pass this mortal coil:toast:

FordGT90ConceptOcto-core to take on a hyperthreaded quad-core...not good for AMD.

I tire of this argument their both enhanced quad cores in my head one less so then tuther

dezzAt least according to earlier plans. It could be that they've changed their minds, because of the delays.

Doubtful

erockerPreorders on something relatively unknown and unproven? No thanks.

"The following item is not in stock, but is on order into our warehouses. Currently, this item is scheduled to ship to us from the factory" (ETA: 15 Business Days)

www.resellerratings.com/store/Bottom_Line_Telecommunications_15

erockerPreorders on something relatively unknown and unproven? No thanks.

Relatively unknown, unproven, and no evidence that is the TRUE pricing. On AMD's giveaway they stated an approximate value of $300, that giveaway was not THAT long ago.... ok, this is close enough to $300.... still remember when the 3870 came out how many sites would let you pre-order for way over the actual cost? Just because they are letting people pre-order does not mean people will get the chip at this price.....

unless it actually is cheaper.:banghead:

[H]@RD5TUFFIf those are real prices... I say this is just an attention grab... if you don't like the news posted...

“News” is only worthy when it can be corroborated… this isn't news! Some guy takes “a pre-order” for an SB-E for $250, charges your CC then waits 4 weeks before he sends the Email stating it’s canceled… but he refunding it, is that still news?

No one especially an "Editor" should be purporting to readers what he hasn't at least first tried to substantiate with BLT first. :cool:

I've got several acres of great Florida property.

Begining to see the real reason why amd is silent on bd. On the left amd loyalist-won't live up 2 their expectations. On the right intel loyalist-can't touch us mentality. In the middle amd- can't please anybody. So think what u want. Amd promised nothing they'll just release a product.

Casecutter“News” is only worthy when it can be corroborated… this isn't news! Some guy takes “a pre-order” for an SB-E for $250, charges your CC then waits 4 weeks before he sends the Email stating it’s canceled… but he refunding it, is that still news?

No one especially an "Editor" should be purporting to readers what he hasn't at least first tried to substantiate with BLT first. :cool:

I've got several acres of great Florida property.

I lol'd.

You seriously don't understand context. Do yourself and all others a favor and gtfo if you don't like the content of this website, rather than complaining about it incessantly.

[H]@RD5TUFFI lol'd.

You seriously don't understand context. Do yourself and all others a favor and gtfo if you don't like the content of this website, rather than complaining about it incessantly.

He's making a valid point and you are insulting him. Insults don't belong on this site either.:nutkick:

extrasaltyHe's making a valid point and you are insulting him. Insults don't belong on this site either.:nutkick:

I am not insulting him, I am telling him if he doesn't like the content go elsewhere, rather than complain and thread crap. He is complaining to the messenger about the message, and not only is that dumb at best but pointless, as if he doesn't like it he is free to seek tech info elsewhere! And that is the end of the matter, should you wish to discuss the matter further PM me.:nutkick:

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CasecutterThis is an interesting development, but I'd ask how strong is Bottom Line Telecommunications in with AMD? I mean is BLT actually is sanctioned by AMD, to post pricing prior to release? Normally pre-order implies product is 15-20 day from being a deliverable?

Most of us use Bottom Line Tel. new cpu sku list as a sign of "soon to be available" new cpu.

BLT always one of the first E-Tailer to post new cpu sku (since FX55/57 in 2005) even though actual shipment usually a few days after Newegg

dumoMost of us use Bottom Line Tel. new cpu sku list as a sign of "soon to be available" new cpu.

BLT always one of the first E-Tailer to post new cpu sku (since FX55/57 in 2005) even though actual shipment usually a few days after Newegg

Wow news to me... and I've been doing this since well before 2005, though appear east coast so maybe why hadn't heard of them. That's why I asked orginally, good to know as that lends some credence.

BLT is one of e-tailer that use drop shipment, direct from distributor (Avnet, Ma Labs etc) warehouses whereas Newegg stock inventory ship from their Cal, Tenn. and NJ warehouses

why only a suicide run and no benches?
I think AMD is sitting on more bull than anything else

erockerPreorders on something relatively unknown and unproven? No thanks.

Well one thing is for sure , I can not buy some thing I have not seen in action yet . No information has been posted as to how well these chips perform . With that said how can any one do this on blind faith ? I need more information as to just how these chip will perform under real world conditions before I will spend any cash on one .

Simple calculation based on Newegg price...

MIVE+2600K = $650
CH5 = $230
$420 difference which can be applied to FX8150 price ranges:)

pre order

how do i preorder this cpu guys