i got my 965 brand new from 119.99 from microcenter last year

They are still selling the PII 955 which is almost 3years old.:laugh::D

mtosevThey are still selling the PII 955 which is almost 3years old.:laugh::D

You people have some weird senses of humor :rolleyes:

mtosevThey are still selling the PII 955 which is almost 3years old.:laugh::D

I wish i've had one.

Nothing like moving out old inventory. Good job AMD especially with some of the FX's reduced too.

Why is AMD still making these yet? Or maybe old inventory going out? :)

radarbladeWhy is AMD still making these yet?

Because they are still as good as Bulldozer, duh :roll:

185 USD is not a bad price for the 8120. It's no 2600k, but it will still do everything that you need it to do.

radarbladeWhy is AMD still making these yet? Or maybe old inventory going out? :)

They are still making them because they still sell.

Without going into flame war territory, the Phenom line has better single or lightly threaded performance than the newer FX series. Given that most current applications are single or lightly threaded, there is a real market for older Phenom line chips.


This said, the Piledriver revision of FX will likely put Phenom to bed. AMD has announced that they are not going to compete with Intel in the x86 high end processor market, but how that is exactly going to play out is anyone's guess. The only certainty is that this pricing decrease is a huge signal of changes to come.

$119 for phenom 965. is it faster than i3 2120 when it is overclocked?

mrthanhnguyen$119 for phenom 965. is it faster than i3 2120 when it is overclocked?

For some tasks, yes. For gaming, about the same after overclock, depending on game. Going i3 route gives you the advantage of going IvyBridge in the future though.

lilhasselhofferThey are still making them because they still sell.

The Phenoms and Athlons were discontinued shortly after the FXs were launched. This is to move old stock.

lilhasselhofferThey are still making them because they still sell.

Without going into flame war territory, the Phenom line has better single or lightly threaded performance than the newer FX series. Given that most current applications are single or lightly threaded, there is a real market for older Phenom line chips.


This said, the Piledriver revision of FX will likely put Phenom to bed. AMD has announced that they are not going to compete with Intel in the x86 high end processor market, but how that is exactly going to play out is anyone's guess. The only certainty is that this pricing decrease is a huge signal of changes to come.

It's ridiculous for anybody to even think, let alone suggest that AMD can compete with Intel. Intel makes $Billions more, something AMD cannot compete in at this moment.

What AMD needs to do is stick to the Athlon 64 Formula, by competing/defeating Intel on it's weaknesses such as Graphics and APU.

Good choice by the new AMD CEO, by concentrating on AMD's strengths, while still providing inventory to meet different market segments.

FourstaffQuote:
>Originally Posted by mrthanhnguyen View Post
>$119 for phenom 965. is it faster than i3 2120 when it is overclocked?

For some tasks, yes. For gaming, about the same after overclock, depending on game. Going i3 route gives you the advantage of going IvyBridge in the future though.

Assuming an optimistic 4.2 ghz overclock, single threaded performance would be approx. 5-10% less than an i3 2xxx. Multithreaded, even at stock, would be better than an i3 2xxx.
Bottom line, for current quad thread gaming, it's good. For 1-2 thread applications, the i3 2xxx is better.
You would have to run a phenom II deneb quad core at 4ghz or higher to make it a better all-round option for a gamer, when compared to the i3 2xxx. But like Fourstaff said, there is the Ivy Bridge upgrade path with the i3, which is very nice.

I got my PII X2 555 + Gigabyte board @ MC for $90 AR almost 2 yrs ago. Lucky me it unlocked to X4 and did easy 4 Ghz with OEM cooler and low volts. It still rocks @ 3.8 as X4 with 1.4 v almost 2 yrs.

suraswamiI got my PII X2 555 + Gigabyte board @ MC for $90 AR almost 2 yrs ago. Lucky me it unlocked to X4 and did easy 4 Ghz with OEM cooler and low volts. It still rocks @ 3.8 as X4 with 1.4 v almost 2 yrs.

555's are awesome chips :toast:

Norton555's are awesome chips :toast:

And now at 85$, its even better. Its the cheapest dual -> quad core ever. Unless you count older Phenom quad core, where you may still get it for less than 50$ somewhere.

ThefumigatorAnd now at 85$, its even better. Its the cheapest dual -> quad core ever. Unless you count older Phenom quad core, where you may still get it for less than 50$ somewhere.

Or Athlon II X2, X3, an X4 which also unlock at the same price.

Athlon II x2 (Regor die) are true dual core chips with no disabled cores to unlock.

Like seeing the FX-6100 to $145; I would not have any aversion in using it on a new build, as long as two things: Firstly the price for 970 mobo needs to see some price movement, and secondly I need to be (more) assured that those AM3+ socket mobo will provide a clean socket compatibility with Piledriver. There's nothing wrong with going with that setup when you can get those 2 parts for say just over $200. While knowing in a year you've the upgrade to an (hopefully) enhanced chip for still a decent price.

When you factor in a quality Z68 (that insures worthy of an I-B upgrade) and comparable Intel CPU the price on those two today is minimum $75 more. While I'm sure even if Piledriver is exceptionally better or even to say even almost par with similar I-B's (may be stretch). Intel won't attempt to be competitive with their prices, meaning an I-B upgrade could be cost at least another $40.

If this plays out as such sometime 10-14 months from now the Intel path costs something to the tune of $115 more, and you might not be nearly that far above in performance over the AMD path.

This is all speculative so don't go flaming out, but this could be a scenario of how it plays out. Buying into a platform (CPU/mobo) right now is a gamble for either path you choose. If AMD squared away the socket compatibility for sure, and got mobo’s to drop (rebates like $15-20) they could really present a value proposition all the way up to and after I-B shows. That's what AMD has normally provided, and if they know Piledriver is a sincerely advancement, those two thing could speak volumes to the dependable AMD purchasers’ without even mentioning Piledriver performance in the dialogue.

Well, according to rumour, AMD is working on 1090FX and 1070 chipsets, as well as possibly giving Piledriver quad channel memory...
Depends on that, really. If it's true, it probably means Piledriver needs the new chipset, if not, then the upgrade path is there for 990/970 chipset boards.

InceptorWell, according to rumour, AMD is working on 1090FX and 1070 chipsets, as well as possibly giving Piledriver quad channel memory...
Depends on that, really. If it's true, it probably means Piledriver needs the new chipset, if not, then the upgrade path is there for 990/970 chipset boards.

They can do Quad-Channel on current AM3+ no problem. :)

faramirAthlon II x2 (Regor die) are true dual core chips with no disabled cores to unlock.

Some did unlock. Occasionally they used disabled Denebs and called them Regors.

en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7773

Dent1Some did unlock. Occasionally they used disabled Denebs and called them Regors.

en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7773

I have AII X2 240e 45w chip based on Deneb that unlocks to a quad with no L3 cache and works fine.

BTW no 1090T or 1100T on the list? Are they already retired?

suraswamiI have AII X2 240e 45w chip based on Deneb that unlocks to a quad with no L3 cache and works fine.

See I knew I was right :)

suraswamiBTW no 1090T or 1100T on the list? Are they already retired

Who knows? My feeling is they are trying to shift stock and concentrate on the FX lineup. Naturally the high end 1100T and 1090T would have been manufactured in lesser quantities.