Monday, June 11th 2012
AMD Readies Trio of New Radeon HD 7900 Series SKUs
Apart from a few Radeon HD 7970 "X2" dual-GPU graphics cards, and a few non-reference design HD 7970, we didn't hear much about new Radeon SKUs, at Computex. AMD or its partners never even talked about the Radeon HD 7990. It appears now, that the company is working on three new SKUs that will likely replace existing ones, in a bid to replenish the competitiveness of its "Southern Islands" GPU family. The three new SKUs include the Radeon HD 7990, of which we've been hearing for a greater part of this year; the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition, which we knew was taking shape for some time now; and the new Radeon HD 7930.
Launch of the Radeon HD 7990 has been facing quite a few delays. We can't imagine technical hurdles with regard to board design, but the performance yield, and performance-per-Watt figures the SKU will have to produce, to ever make it to the market. The HD 7990 has the tough task of performing within an acceptable range of the GeForce GTX 690, on both these fronts.The Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition will be NVIDIA's bid to compete with the GTX 680, if merely lowering prices won't cut it for the HD 7970. AMD will raise the reference clock speeds for the HD 7970. Lastly, we're hearing of a new SKU, called HD 7930, codenamed "Tahiti LE". This SKU was first spotted when keen observers were poking around with driver information files. It's likely to be a cut-down 28 nm "Tahiti" GPU. It will be interesting to see how AMD prices it, seeing as how it's a tight squeeze between the HD 7870 GHz Edition and HD 7950.
According to a fresh 3DCenter.org report, launch of the HD 7990 is pushed all the way back to August (mid-Summer). The HD 7970 GHz Edition, if real, should be just around the corner, with a June launch predicted. The HD 7930, on the other hand, could be out after June, if the competition gets tough following launch of upper-mainstream NVIDIA SKUs.
Source:
3DCenter.org
Launch of the Radeon HD 7990 has been facing quite a few delays. We can't imagine technical hurdles with regard to board design, but the performance yield, and performance-per-Watt figures the SKU will have to produce, to ever make it to the market. The HD 7990 has the tough task of performing within an acceptable range of the GeForce GTX 690, on both these fronts.The Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition will be NVIDIA's bid to compete with the GTX 680, if merely lowering prices won't cut it for the HD 7970. AMD will raise the reference clock speeds for the HD 7970. Lastly, we're hearing of a new SKU, called HD 7930, codenamed "Tahiti LE". This SKU was first spotted when keen observers were poking around with driver information files. It's likely to be a cut-down 28 nm "Tahiti" GPU. It will be interesting to see how AMD prices it, seeing as how it's a tight squeeze between the HD 7870 GHz Edition and HD 7950.
According to a fresh 3DCenter.org report, launch of the HD 7990 is pushed all the way back to August (mid-Summer). The HD 7970 GHz Edition, if real, should be just around the corner, with a June launch predicted. The HD 7930, on the other hand, could be out after June, if the competition gets tough following launch of upper-mainstream NVIDIA SKUs.
64 Comments on AMD Readies Trio of New Radeon HD 7900 Series SKUs
its only that extra 60mm2 die size(360 vs 300) which in return gives out more than twice the compute power of gk104 while pretty much matching it in gaming and graphical tasts, how is that not efficient? if anything AMD isnt all worried about nvidia as much as they are focused on improving GPGPU to implement on HSA. AMD sure made a good bet if you ask me, you just happen to be looking at the architecture from one aspect and neglecting the other so now wonder you come up with such a conclusion
HD6850 $179
HD6870 $239
HD6950 $299
HD6970 $369
6! months later they release the HD6450, HD6670, HD6770, HD6790, HD6930,
HD6450 $59
HD6670 $99
HD6770 $149
HD6790 $179
HD6930 $179 only in russia, china and the ukraine
these were the only SKUs available at the time of release
store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/
You tell me how many of those kind of cards are there high on the list... None.
They release those cards to protect the price of higher cards. How? Imagine 2 cards at $100 and $150. As usual the faster cards perf/$ is lower, it's 25% faster, while it costs %50 more. So with only those 2 cards what can people do? Either settle for the $100 card or wait until the $150 lowers its price. In both cases, profits lost for the company AND by brute force of capitalism and competing brands the $150 WILL lower its price, since there's more demand for cheaper cards.
So company introduces card 3, at $125 and it's barely faster than the $100 card. But several people will bait, it has a simmilar name as the $150 card, it MUST have something better than the $100 card right? And often times it does have "something", mostly irrelevant for its severely lowered performance, like amount of memory. And so the $150 card does not ever lower it's price much, because the relative perf/$ below it, has been worsened by the $125 card and a good chunk of people wanting more than the $100 card, but who cannot afford $150 card have something to get. Something artificial that is not really better for them, but they spent $125 and NOW, they didn't wait until the innevitable drop on the $150 card. Instant profits for the company. But at least most people know better than that which is demostrated by the low success of such cards. It still works for the company anyway as is demostrated by prices of last couple years.
So it's not a service, not a single HDxx30 has been a good buy overall and has never been in enough quantities as to become a supply/demand force. Same for SE, LE cards or whatever Nvidia calls them.
www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/294853,nvidia-claims-that-theres-no-money-in-22nm.aspx
As AMD to offering 6990, I hope they don’t! I'd let AIB’s do the X2’s and price them aggressively in the $700-800 range and just let Nvidia have their Halo product uncontested.
The "GHz Edition" 7970… yea with improved low leakage gates will make it the part AMD thought they’d get when it was designed and they’ll price it $480 MSRP.
7950’s will be bumped to the 925Mhz, still with 28 CU’s at $430
7930’s will get clocked at whatever the AIB’s feel, but CU’s probably cut to 24CUs... pricing $380. Though I don't know how aggressive AMD could get with their pricing past that, because face it Nvidia and the de-contented GTX670 PCB/components has the advantage. AMD’s not looking to push Nvidia on price, because if Nvidia can start harvesting enough chips they and their AIB's could easily respond on price.
While 7870 are right now between $320-350, so no conflict till competition arrives.
its supply and demand trust me.
There's well over 40 million active user accounts and because of this large sample abse, its survey is the most accurate you can find regarding gaming cards. It's not accurate to compare low end versus high end, but at same price point its completely accurate.
And last year digital game sales were 48% of total gaming sales. And the metric was revenue if I'm not mistaken, which due to lower prices on digital means even more digital sales than retail. 70% of those sales were through Steam. Steam is HUGE.
only 40 million? theres over 400 million gamers so sorry im wrong.. 10% use steam xD
ATI Radeon HD 6250 0.00% 0.00% 0.18% 0.24% 0.22% -0.02% <- filler card
ATI Radeon HD 6310 0.00% 0.02% 0.64% 0.78% 0.76% -0.02% <- filler card
ATI Radeon HD 6320 0.02% 0.00% 0.30% 0.36% 0.40% +0.04% <- filler card
ATI Radeon HD 6450 0.08% 0.06% 0.70% 0.72% 0.78% +0.06% <- filler card
ATI Radeon HD 6570 0.16% 0.16% 0.58% 0.56% 0.64% +0.08%
ATI Radeon HD 6670 0.16% 0.24% 0.76% 0.80% 0.86% +0.06%
ATI Radeon HD 6750 0.10% 0.10% 0.24% 0.24% 0.26% +0.02%
ATI Radeon HD 6770 0.54% 0.48% 1.08% 1.10% 1.14% +0.04%
ATI Radeon HD 6850 1.72% 2.06% 2.94% 2.80% 2.78% -0.02%
ATI Radeon HD 6870 2.14% 2.52% 3.24% 3.14% 3.18% +0.04%
ATI Radeon HD 6950 2.60% 2.62% 2.86% 2.78% 2.72% -0.06%
ATI Radeon HD 6970 1.12% 1.24% 1.24% 1.18% 1.20% +0.02%
ATI Radeon HD 6990 0.14% 0.24% 0.20% 0.18% 0.16% -0.02%
ATI Radeon HD 7950 0.00% 0.02% 0.14% 0.14% 0.20% +0.06%
ATI Radeon HD 7970 0.04% 0.22% 0.34% 0.36% 0.46% +0.10%
NVIDIA GeForce GT 520 0.22% 0.32% 0.88% 0.90% 0.98% +0.08% <- filler card
NVIDIA GeForce GT 530 0.00% 0.04% 0.40% 0.42% 0.44% +0.02% <- filler card
NVIDIA GeForce GT 545 0.04% 0.04% 0.22% 0.22% 0.24% +0.02% <-- filler card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 1.60% 1.72% 3.16% 3.20% 3.50% +0.30%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 555 0.00% 0.00% 0.04% 0.08% 0.10% +0.02% <- filler card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 5.82% 6.86% 8.80% 8.62% 8.90% +0.28%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 2.54% 2.96% 3.30% 3.16% 3.22% +0.06%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 2.36% 2.54% 2.82% 2.58% 2.64% +0.06%
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 0.26% 0.30% 0.32% 0.30% 0.30%
im not listing the 680 because it doesnt have enough time since release to build up % so its compromised however..
this is from your steam list.. more people use hd7970 than a 7950 which shows people will spend the 90! dollars more for the 70
what i have proved here is that there IS a demand for the supply of all filler models
You didn't list a single filler card. They are all the ones (1-2 per segment per brand) that I said are legitimate. That is the full chip card + harvested chip part to improve yields (if necessary, which is not always the case).
And I have no clue what the HD7970 vs HD7950 comment is trying to say. Never said people are not willing to pay more for a faster card.
The ATI HD 5770 is the single most popular card :confused: :twitch: :eek:
pc monopoly for online play... there is SO MANY more offline gamers on PC its not even funny
oh and facebook dwarfs steam like a petty dingleberry... games are games no matter how competitive and boring.
steam holds no ground over overall pc gaming, you need to split it into catagories... Hardcore pc gaming or Enthusiast pc gaming... normal pc gaming? there are more elderly people playing solitaire on windows then there is steam users.
Lastly, what does any of this have to do with three new GPU's from AMD? Perhaps this conversation should be had elsewhere.
* BTW if you find me someone who spent $200+ on a card to play Solitaire and Farmville, please do place me in contact with him/her, such a fool must be unique on it's kind.
and i only roughly estimated the % of an individual filler card... add them all up it would be 3.92%, 1,568,000 filler card users ONLY from what i listed. <-- this information actually would be a valid point to use against someone who says that filler cards are not in high demand... this thread is about 1 of the skus being a filler card.
On topic.
August isn't really too late for the 7990 if it ships in quantity at reasonable price. The GTX 690 really doesn't exist in sales terms. At 5 of the major UK online retailers, there is one model in stock at one site. It's not because they're flying off shelves, it's because they're not on the shelves to begin with.
I'm interested in seeing the 7970 GHz reviews. Also to see if the 12.6 App profiles have helped the crossfire shittiness that is AMD. I was looking to go down the route of two 670's but I may instead buy another 7970 if the scaling is good (and it seems to be so).
Alternatively they could have paid $300 for the 5850 which would have given them 30% more performance, so yeah, things really need to be put into perspective.