theeldestThis really has nothing to do with marketing but with logistics/economics. Intel's goal: Make the most (profit) out of their fabrication plants. When 2xnm is more economical than 32nm it makes sense to stop 32nm production.

I think the reasoning is that 32nm can be turned over to other duties (i.e. Intel still runs 45 and 65nm fabs for chipset and older/cheaper mass production), or in some instances the fab would need to be taken offline so that it can retool and be refurbished for a newer process (i.e. 14nm or 10nm)....it's still definitely Intel's long term strategy at work in any event.

theeldestIt says nothing as to whether you should get a new processor or if a 2 year old processor is sub-par. It only says that their fabrication plants are better off not making these processors anymore to maximize profit for Intel.

True enough...odd how some people equate a PDN or EOL notification with "OMFGWTF Intel are taking my processor away"

1nf3rn0x3570k is minimal ($10-20). There is no reason to be upset, your getting better perf per core, a smaller chip with less power consumption and HD 4000 graphics

And that the problem HD 4000 is good, but it all the other IB that are more in need (65W) suited/priced (HTPC) for HD 4000 Graphic that are stuck with HD 2500 which is still bad.

INSTG8RTHIS might hurt your feeling a little then(I know I cringed a bit)

Give it to me I will give it a better home :shadedshu

1nf3rn0xI don't get why everyone is upset. The price difference between a 2500k and 3570k is minimal ($10-20). There is no reason to be upset, your getting better perf per core, a smaller chip with less power consumption and HD 4000 graphics for anyone using them in a htpc as an example.

yes this is true but ivy grow heat when you oc and if you dont have a liquid cooling you have to spend other money for upgrade and its not possible for everyone

HumanSmokeI think the reasoning is that 32nm can be turned over to other duties (i.e. Intel still runs 45 and 65nm fabs for chipset and older/cheaper mass production), or in some instances the fab would need to be taken offline so that it can retool and be refurbished for a newer process (i.e. 14nm or 10nm)....it's still definitely Intel's long term strategy at work in any event.

True enough...odd how some people equate a PDN or EOL notification with "OMFGWTF Intel are taking my processor away"

well i understand that but if you see my post up,ivy make much more heat thant the last generation = you have to spend money for have good temps = money to spend for intel laziness for apply a good termal paste on the die clap clap

Capitan Harlockwell i understand that but if you see my post up,ivy make much more heat thant the last generation = you have to spend money for have good temps = money to spend for intel laziness for apply a good termal paste on the die clap clap

Just a couple of things there..
Firstly, Ivy Bridge pretty much equal SB performance at 200MHz less clock, and if you're OC'ing to (say) 4.5+ then you should really be looking a bespoke watercooling loop in any case- as you would with the corresponding performance from a 4.7G Sandy Bridge CPU
Secondly, if absolute numbers are a must...and air cooling is a must...then...Here's a Pro tip >>>Go out and buy a Sandy Bridge CPU<<< But you'd better hurry as the cut off date for the channel is September 27, 2013....

Cristian_25Hand will continue to ship while supplies last (for the boxed versions) or until September 27, 2013 (for the tray versions).

....which means that you'd only be able to source a Sandy Bridge via eBay, or a (r)etailer carrying new old stock until about 2015-16. Of course, by September 27, 2013 everyone else will be looking at Haswell CPU's...not Ivy Bridge, and by the time the Sandy Bridge market dries up completely, everyone (excepting AMD diehards waiting for Excapulveriser, and you looking for a 2500K) will be buying Skymont.

Velvet Waferwell... if AMD isnt able to make a worthwile Processor, by architecture, why cant they just be that shrinking addicted as Intel is?:laugh: 22 Nm on a reimproved Phenom architecture with a BD Memcontroller is what i dream of! :D
Except APUs, i see no bright future for AMD, anytime soon...they are just limping behind in literally every possible aspect i could think of... that really kills me as a person that used AMD for a long time, and that wished that Market Shares would equalize between the Blue Team and the Red Team,somewhere in the future :ohwell:

Why, the memory controller on BD isn't even that good TBH. Its only slightly improved over what Phenom II had.

roll out the smaller chips!

The thing you guys are forgetting is that Haswell is around the corner. If Haswell can pull a generational leap like Sandy Bridge did, then we're all going to forget both SB and IB and drool over Haswell.

you dont hear me screaming im still using E5520 xeons :) works fine :)

So this mean the CPUs are prices are going cheaper?

What about the i5-2550K?

symmetricalThe thing you guys are forgetting is that Haswell is around the corner. If Haswell can pull a generational leap like Sandy Bridge did, then we're all going to forget both SB and IB and drool over Haswell.

That's what Im waiting on! :toast: