Saturday, April 6th 2013
Intel Fixes 8-series Chipset USB 3.0 Erratum
Intel issued a product-change notification (PCN) to partners in the motherboard industry, informing them of a new C2 stepping of the 8-series "Lynx Point" chipset. The stepping introduces a metal layers change that fixes the USB 3.0 remuneration erratum, which causes devices plugged in to USB 3.0 ports to fail to reinitialize after waking up from sleep states such as S3, requiring uses to unplug and replug them, which could get particularly irritating for people with external RAID devices that rely on USB 3.0 for host connectivity.
According to the PCN, the first socket LGA1150 motherboards in the market may not feature C2-stepping chipset. It predicts samples to be available to motherboard manufacturers by April 19, 2013; availability of qualification data (when Intel has finalized design after taking feedback from partners), by July 1 2013; customers should be ready to receive C2-stepping chips by July 31. These dates indicate that the very first batches of socket LGA1150 motherboards will still feature C1-stepping chipset that are affected by the erratum, and if you can't live with it, you should ideally wait until late-August or mid-September for the first motherboards with C2-stepping chipset to make it to the markets. Intel expects to launch its 4th generation Core "Haswell" processors and compatible LGA1150 motherboards by mid-June.
According to the PCN, the first socket LGA1150 motherboards in the market may not feature C2-stepping chipset. It predicts samples to be available to motherboard manufacturers by April 19, 2013; availability of qualification data (when Intel has finalized design after taking feedback from partners), by July 1 2013; customers should be ready to receive C2-stepping chips by July 31. These dates indicate that the very first batches of socket LGA1150 motherboards will still feature C1-stepping chipset that are affected by the erratum, and if you can't live with it, you should ideally wait until late-August or mid-September for the first motherboards with C2-stepping chipset to make it to the markets. Intel expects to launch its 4th generation Core "Haswell" processors and compatible LGA1150 motherboards by mid-June.
40 Comments on Intel Fixes 8-series Chipset USB 3.0 Erratum
But I 100% agree. However.. say goodbye to overclocking. For real. Not like it's really gonna last long anyway, at least, not in it's current state. I think we'll be back to soldering stuff soon, and I won't mind that one bit. I very much want OC guaranteed completely, or removed completely.
People want progress to fast though. What will happen si that we wil lhit the physical limit, with poor quality, for transistor design, and then it'll be perfected, perhaps @ 12nm. That's not that far away.
edit: cadaveca ninjaed a post in between :toast:
If I were Intel i would delay the launch till issue is ironed out, its not that the 4th gen & 8 series chipset are that better than what people currently have, just my opinion.
Or they should work faster and deliver the C2 to all consumer parts that they will be launching on June.
Back then when computers in general were incredibly slow it was worth the risk (shorter lifespan, general instability, etc.). Nowadays, nobody overclocks their equipment anymore if they care about the warranty. Plus the industry as a whole has shifted focus to mobile systems - no overclocking a tablet, let alone a cell phone.
Maybe I'm getting old, but it's time to move on to more worthwhile endeavours.
If a user wants to overclock why not give them the tools. Maybe the cpu is enough maybe they need a bit more oomph if they want it.
I may be taking a reach here but it can't be that much more money/time to put overclocking to be done easily. I If the cpu can be overclocked, why not let it. Why make something hard when it does not have to be. Those who have the knowledge/desire to overclock can and those who don't wont. It would understand if the cpu just was not designed to run beyond a certain speed.Why would you be more interested in it if it required that? It sounds like you find current overclocking methods boring.
And yeah, that is about it. I like soldering, and it would seperate the men from the boys. :p
Most of the motherboards/graphics makers Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA, Asrock etc advertise their boards as overclocking boards, they provide you with the tools and settings to be able to overclock. On some of them you can even use the "one click" overclocking where the motherboard will test and find your max stable settings.
Many graphics card are default overclocked out of the box. On modern motherboards the max Intel memory spec is 1600Mhz but most boards say they accept up to like 2400Mhz- 2800Mhz memory.
Do you really think they will knock your warranty back if you're overclocking? Well, they don't. Over the years I have RMA'd many different computer parts for me and others. Not once have they asked me if I was overclocking or made any claims about overclocking voiding the warranty.
Overclocking is quite safe(if you know how to do it), you can even do it with default stock voltage so there is almost zero risk in that case.
Even stock Intel systems in computers and mobile devices have built in overclocking. A modern CPU is advertised as like 3.4Ghz with turbo(overclocking) up to 3.9Ghz. Same with graphics cards have boost another form of built in overclocking.
Sorry, but it just sounds like you don't know what you're talking about on many levels.
Anyway back on topic, I don't know how Intel could make this mistake again, and I don't know how they expect to sell the faulty chipsets on the market. At least last time they let people exchange their boards for the new revision.
Im sure it is no small sum that those few of us who do overclock do it only for epeen. Separate the men from the boys... So you want it to be more difficult so you can feel special being one of the elite soldering pc master race.
I guess I could just suck it up and actually learn how to solder, but why should I have to when it could be so easily done with out it. Why do we need to separate the men from the boys?
Even phones which is where computing is heading are pretty easy to overclock if it is not locked down.
In the entire history of computing, Commodore II C-64 was the only PC that i didn't overclock. Celeron 333MHz was overclocked, AMD Thunderbird 1GHz got overclocked, AthlonXP 2400+ got overclocked, E4300, E5200 and now Core i7 920 all got overclocked.
Hell, a local computer shop even specifically supplied the D0 stepping Core i7's for a tiny higher price but then you almost got a guaranteed higher overclock. And i think i paid extra 10 EUR for it. Goes up to 4,2GHz no problem at 1,25-1,28V last time i checked but i run it at 4GHz because of the power saving. Overclocking is great and its one of the reasons why i love PC's. You invest tiny amount of extra money and some time and you can get gains that are otherwise several hundred bucks in hardware that is higher end out of the factory.
Haven't seen an open source ARM device that isn't completely capable of OC.... AMD is still alive too... so I am still hoping for x86 to stop monopoly and bring in some competition from other sides.
Erratas are normal thing - nothing is perfect, we are not Gods and everything made by men can be broken, though most could be eliminated with much more stepping in R/D phase like in the older days, they are very lazy now, acting like robbers offering the same performance package for since LGA1366... no solid revolution offering 2x performance boost. Just some minor instruction sets, and the whole chip becomes cheaper for them to make, but it doesn't change the retail price for us also... just plain money milking machine...
And btw you remember that on ancient times we oc'ed by changing clock gen crystals? So where is the problem? OC is a privilegy for those who can and know, not for those who buy a K series CPU and simply toggle the multiplier up... it feels like cheating...
So if you could get that taken care of that would be great.......
/holds coffee cup
yeah.....