hmm looks like the GTX 670 won't have a new 700 series card to get compared too, that's a shame it's a good card.

"We arent making a Ti model, but when AMD brings out their cards to counter our position, we probably will make a Ti, a Ti boost, and anything else we feel will relevantly trump the competition. GLHF buying a card." - NVidia.

Also, I REALLY want one of those engineering sample NVidia cards with the plain black shroud blower cooler.

So it turns out this leak got the hardware part right, just exaggerated the clocks, heh.

puma99dk|hmm looks like the GTX 670 won't have a new 700 series card to get compared too

Don't hurry to conclude that :)

RCoon"We arent making a Ti model, but when AMD brings out their cards to counter our position, we probably will make a Ti, a Ti boost, and anything else we feel will relevantly trump the competition. GLHF buying a card." - NVidia.

I can all but guarantee this is the thinking and product positioning:

This card would be approx equal or very very very slightly faster than a 1536sp card clocked at 925/5000, which is more or less what AMD is limited to if they choose to do such a product under 150w (Such a spec would be limited to something like 1050-1075/5800 within 150w, similar absolute performance as this product).

If that is what AMD does, they are set to compete at a similar price tag but higher power consumption.

If AMD takes the over 150w route, and hence goes for something like up to 1100/6000, nvidia can come back with a revised 670, which has slightly more ipc, clocked to beat it while at a similar price tag. Again probably higher power consumption on the geforce part (conceivably ~200w vs <200w) but nobody will care because the pci-e spec will be similar.

Hence, this is the bait. AMD now has to make a choice to compete with lower power consumption and similar absolute performance (and hence lower margin) to 760 or to lower the performance difference between 8800 products and still get beaten by 760ti, causing the same likely competition.

My guess is we end up with 1100/5000 (150w), 1100/6000 (188w), and 1100/7000 (225w) 1280, 1536, and 1792sp parts that perform just slightly lower over-all than the Geforce competition (760 ~ 1344sp, 760ti ~ 1568sp, 770 ~ 1792sp but need less bw so similar bw adds more performance) but are slightly cheaper and spaced between them.

Dj-ElectriCDon't hurry to conclude that :)

i am not that much but it would be lame calling it 765 :laugh:

Price? Even if the silicon is a cut down version of the 670 as long as the price is right I think it will sell.

I think a 4GB version of this would be a pretty good card to power all those GDDR5 powered PS4/Xbone ports that will hit the PC over the next 5 years.

Given the reference clocks of 980Mhz/Boost of 1033Mhz that's like what most generic GTX660Ti factory OC looked like. Given the lower Cuda and TPU and that 256-Bit might help like 5-8% at 1920x (pretty much its’ perceived resolution), plus Boost 2.0 enabling more sustained clocks perhaps where most of any true advance will come from over most GTX660Ti that right today hold to around $275. As customary any real proliferation of reference cards at MSRP will be nil, most everything will be customs and entail the customary 10-15% minimum charge, but those will perform similar/best their 660Ti counterparts at a lower price.

Nvidia again sets an aggressive MSRP, what we will see is a lesser functional card, with 256-bit and better use of boost clocks for about what nicer GTX660Ti perform today. Then top-shelf customs could get you right up on a 670, so that bodes well. For the near term I might say a decent GTX670 for $330 is the better buy. What's interesting is all this would appear to leave a substantial void between this new GTX760 and the 770, so they're certainly not going to EoL the GTX670, just remain firm which should keep volumes from being sucked up. Right today Egg has a gaggle of nice 670's (22 Sku's), about 7 get down to $330-350 –AR. If fence sitting I'd fall to a 670 sooner than later. On the GTX 660Ti Egg has 21 Sku's and pricing runs from $260-310 working rebates, and I don't know if that range will witness much realignment.

I can't remember a time when there's been this much overlap, Sku's, and no clear defined price points, it all feels to meld into one huge blob, and that's not even considering AMD.

CasecutterI can't remember a time when there's been this much overlap, Sku's, and no clear defined price points, it all feels to meld into one huge blob, and that's not even considering AMD.

Nvidia is looking at a refresh/rebrand/whatever you call it. If you only consider the 7xx series, it seems pretty clear: TITAN -> 780 -> 770 and now 760. Once the 6xx gets sold out and the 7xx becomes mainstream things simplify again.

FourstaffOnce the 6xx gets sold out

I realize that... but with so many choices, incremental prices and performance, spec's, it's hard for those savvy with graphics card to discern what's the shrewd acquisition. Will folks go to buy or will/have they been waiting to see what and how pricing pans out. Meaning even more of a sluggish marketplace. With this news who's going to look at a 660, 660Ti? And, why I see a 670 even with the understanding you’ll probably ante-up almost 25% to get it… it feels like the safe play? IDK

CasecutterI can't remember a time when there's been this much overlap, Sku's, and no clear defined price points, it all feels to meld into one huge blob, and that's not even considering AMD.

I agree. I wonder if nvidia may choose to not release 750 series and below beacuse of so much 600 series overlap. Or they may just rebrand quickly and call it a day.

Does not bode well for people looking to get a second gtx670 for sli, as the market will keep the prices steady/inflated. :banghead:

Hilux SSRGI wonder if nvidia may choose to not release 750 series and below... and call it a day.

How would they pull truely fresh derivatives from a GK106 silicone it appears they're fairly tapped out on that?

I could see a GTX660 (full GK106) getting Boost 2.0 and call it a GTX750Ti. The GTX650Ti Boost I believe has Boost 2.0, so that gets basic re-name to GTX750. While the original 650Ti, if they could find enough chips with all 3 Memory controls (3 SMX) could become a 192-Bit but call it what?
or let's call it a day!:toast:

so they must be saving the 670 refresh for the 760T??