FrickIf it's priced similar to the GTX 780 and is faster it's a win. And it's the way of things.

No man. The buying power of people is dropping every year. This also means that everything is going up, except for the salaries which are staying on the same level or even dropping.

Prima.VeraNo man. The buying power of people is dropping every year. This also means that everything is going up, except for the salaries which are staying on the same level or even dropping.

Well, the rest of the Rxs are priced pretty fair, if not very. But when we're talking about top-end... I think the more you go higher, the more the buyer's IQ drops (a way I call it)... These days it hit an all-time low, with the launch of GTX Titan and it's ridiculous price... after all those years when I thought we'd have learned something from the 8800Ultra fiasco...

But, as for this, let's just wait for some actual prices that we ca SEE and can be confirmed. For the time being, that fact the rumors on price cuts from nVidia's behalf are already good news, for everyone, price-wise. Just how much CAN AMD off-shot prices. As much as I'd like for them to strike gold and even up the playing field a little, I don't like for people to get ripped off...

buildzoidUh guys these are pre orders not day one prices because the NDA doesn't even lift until the 15th.

Most Pre-Order prices like this are higher just from the point the Newegg does not yet know MSRP and will price it higher just to be safe.

That said, if we say that’s the Special Edition with a game, it might put a $50 premium. Factoring that it would make a reference R9 290X like $680, and that is not a "target" I believe AMD "enthusiasts" should be bamboozled into the agreeing is now some "enthusiast market" price point.

I even deem $600 is not justifiable, and hope AMD resists the idea of following Nvidia. When the 7970 arrived we had a jump of 50% from the 6970 at $370! AMD cannot pilfer 20-25% again. Reflect that in just 2 years-10 months AMD pricing for "enthusiasts" might increased some 75% and that’s just not "traditional" it's more collusion.

Matt Skynner said, "I can't reveal a pricepoint but we're looking at more traditional enthusiast GPU pricepoints. … So this next-generation line is targeting more of the enthusiast market versus the ultra-enthusiast one."

NeoXFWell, the rest of the Rxs are priced pretty fair, if not very. But when we're talking about top-end... I think the more you go higher, the more the buyer's IQ drops (a way I call it)... These days it hit an all-time low, with the launch of GTX Titan and it's ridiculous price... after all those years when I thought we'd have learned something from the 8800Ultra fiasco...

But, as for this, let's just wait for some actual prices that we ca SEE and can be confirmed. For the time being, that fact the rumors on price cuts from nVidia's behalf are already good news, for everyone, price-wise. Just how much CAN AMD off-shot prices. As much as I'd like for them to strike gold and even up the playing field a little, I don't like for people to get ripped off...

I somehow think the limited edition w/ a $60-70 game... will be priced more than the regular edition.
The question is... does this substitute for the normal game bundle?

I would rather them undercut nvidia because I don't want to spend that much for a card.
But... if its performance "warrants" the price point... there is nothing morally wrong with them charging as much as nvidia.

The bleeding edge will always cost more... its called the bleeding edge for a reason. As for attacking the IQ of those willing to pay the premium... some fit the bill, many do not. The titan can be used in place of Quadro cards which have a much higher premium. So its cheap for professionals... and too expensive for consumers. The value proposition always goes down as the performance peaks out... but jealously of those able to afford it is unbecoming.

There was talk about the cards from back in the day being so competitive and slashing prices so much that they were barely profitable, back when top of the line would set you back $300. I suspect both AMD and nVidia have realized the other won't heavily undercut the other anymore (both would be desperate for profit once the bank got low enough) and they're enjoying it.

xvithey're enjoying it.

Have you seen AMDs balance sheets lately? Profitability of the GPU division has been shrinking. They barely broke even in their GPU division in Q2 2013...

xviThere was talk about the cards from back in the day being so competitive and slashing prices so much that they were barely profitable, back when top of the line would set you back $300. I suspect both AMD and nVidia have realized the other won't heavily undercut the other anymore (both would be desperate for profit once the bank got low enough) and they're enjoying it.

Sounds like price fixing.

Slomo4shOHave you seen AMDs balance sheets lately? Profitability of the GPU division has been shrinking. They barely broke even in their GPU division in Q2 2013...

The profit is shrinking, but their market share is expanding. The R&D and advertisement cost of the newest cards also contributes to that number.

Here is a link for the R9 290Xs on Newegg:
r9 290X

When you look at the pictures for the XFX Edition you see that its the R9 290X Battlefield 4 Limited Edition. The other cards have the same generic box art. I wonder which are they talking about?

Slomo4shOHave you seen AMDs balance sheets lately? Profitability of the GPU division has been shrinking. They barely broke even in their GPU division in Q2 2013...

i don't care..

"AMD has broken, collapsed, stumbled down or even ripped off from this planet.." Meh.. it's kinda boooringgg~~

i'm happy as long as they remain competitive and shut the monopoly off :)

tacosRcoolHere is a link for the R9 290Xs on Newegg:
r9 290X

When you look at the pictures for the XFX Edition you see that its the R9 290X Battlefield 4 Limited Edition. The other cards have the same generic box art. I wonder which are they talking about?

The box with BF4 pictures are certainly BF4 Limited edition, which was presented in GPU'14.
If the BF4 version costs $ 729.99, it could be reasonable that the standard version stays at $599, sweet pot.

AMD is going to milk a high price-point just like they did at the release of the last generation 7970 because it's new and in limited supply. Would be nice if they undercut Nvidia more but it doesn't look that way.

Funny as Newegg do do discounts even on new stuff like on Netgears new router.

Here's a funny part found in the HTML

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<li class="price-current " itemprop="price" content="9999.99" id="singleFinalPrice">

Although there is another file that says 0 now too ;).

Yes i am just messing lol.

NeoXFI think I'm gonna start calling you people (well, most of you'z), "speculation lurkers" or crawlers... Since most of you just seem to go batshit reaction crazy from rumors, speculation, non-official, leaked (and so on) stuff all the time...

It's a historic & traditional TPU thing, every new series of card that comes out gets the bull and the hype from green or red, then most get disappointed, then many of the disappointed make out they are not, and those that live in the other camp are happy until the next series release when the tales may be turned, it's a joy to behold and has helped keep me here for so many years. :D

Anyone else catch that the Asus 290X is a DIRECTCU II TOP card?

ASUS X9290X-DC2T-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB GDDR5 Vid...

X9290X-DC2T-4GD5

I like that occasional arguments are being made that it's that price because BF4 is bundled with it. :laugh:

Umm... the point of bundling a game is at a massive discount, not to add it to the MSRP. The other AMD bundles have been without much extra cost 'if any' to the card. i.e. the Radeon Gold bundle, choose 3 free games - no extra cost to card.

I don't think any of the retailers know what to charge to be honest. A lot will be hedging their bets I think and they will adjust accordingly, up or down as required.

Intel GodAnyone else catch that the Asus 290X is a DIRECTCU II TOP card?

ASUS X9290X-DC2T-4GD5 Radeon R9 290X 4GB GDDR5 Vid...

X9290X-DC2T-4GD5

That's weird - DC = Direct Copper? That's a cooler design is it not? Weird as the rumours all say NO custom cards - only reference at launch....

the54thvoidThat's weird - DC = Direct Copper? That's a cooler design is it not? Weird as the rumours all say NO custom cards - only reference at launch....

If the model number is correct its a custom PCB 290X with the 3 slot DirectCUII Cooler. Guess we'll have to wait and see

the54thvoidI like that occasional arguments are being made that it's that price because BF4 is bundled with it. :laugh:

Umm... the point of bundling a game is at a massive discount, not to add it to the MSRP. The other AMD bundles have been without much extra cost 'if any' to the card. i.e. the Radeon Gold bundle, choose 3 free games - no extra cost to card.

I don't think any of the retailers know what to charge to be honest. A lot will be hedging their bets I think and they will adjust accordingly, up or down as required.

You forgot the fact that the buyers of that card are also eligible for the Neversettle Forever promo.

Intel GodIf the model number is correct its a custom PCB 290X with the 3 slot DirectCUII Cooler. Guess we'll have to wait and see

No custom design for 290X as AMD confirmed. The pictures only show the ref PCB. You will have to wait for R9 290 nonX, just like Titan and 780.

Crap DaddyI don't think so. It's five months since the 780 is out, overclocked versions which are faste r than Titan can be had for 670$ and they also bundle a $50 game. The price bar for best in line has been raised to ridiculous levels and AMD is just happy to play along. So now everytime a card is faster than the previous generation you add 150$ on top? Maxwell will follow next year and what? Another hundred on top? Wait, maybe a fully enabled GK110 will hit the market sooner bundled with a game for a hundred more.

Couldn't agree more. Gone are the days where you got last gen highend perf for midrange prices (199 - 249), and the new highend at the same price the previous highend started.

sweetYou forgot the fact that the buyers of that card are also eligible for the Neversettle Forever promo.

And?

sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloadedforever.aspx

"Choose your free games". You don't add it to the MSRP.

sweetThe profit is shrinking, but their market share is expanding. The R&D and advertisement cost of the newest cards also contributes to that number.

The market share is expanding when observing quarterly figures but is still lower than last year if you use the YTD comparison. R&D and advertising are a part of the operating costs which are then passed down to the consumer so I am unsure what relevance this has to my original comment.

Tatty_OneIt's a historic & traditional FORUM thing, every new series of card that comes out gets the bull and the hype from green or red, then most get disappointed, then many of the disappointed make out they are not, and those that live in the other camp are happy until the next series release when the tales may be turned, it's a joy to behold and has helped keep me here for so many years. :D

Fixed.

the54thvoidAnd?

sites.amd.com/us/promo/never-settle/Pages/nsreloadedforever.aspx

"Choose your free games". You don't add it to the MSRP.

My point is, excluding BF4, the card is already bundled with a sheer amount of games.

AMD confirmed that there are only 8000 BF4 bundled R9 290X, and that MSRP is for those 8000 samples only. You have to pay the premium to be one of the first owner. And BF4 is just the bonus for those lucky guys.

arterius2BAHAHA, I chuckled at all the AMD fanboys who thought these cards would be selling at $599 and 'utterly destroy Nvidia'.

Seeing this is the price before it's even officially out it seems actually possible it'll end up being $599 before too long once it's available everywhere officially.

Those prices just tell how hungry for a gpu gamers are
They won't be lowering prices unless people stop buying gpus == impossible

I personally wouldn't buy a 200$+ gpu even if I was the richest guy in the world