I'm sick with these 780TI 3GB. Such a waste of performance. This card will be obsolated in next year with more VRAM-bound games like Watchdog. Why the hell nVidia hasn't put 6 GB on this board? The only reason I can think of is to save the Titan Black sale.

But wait, some guys on Internet claim that Titans are not gaming cards, so their sale shouldn't be bothered with 780Ti.

I'm confused :|

This is by far one of the sexiest W/C cards I've seen all year. That white and blue...mmmmmh, makes me moist.

But agreed, this card is a waste of time and money. 4/6GB VRAM or bust.

sweetThis card will be obsolated in next year with more VRAM-bound games like Watchdog

But wait, some guys on Internet claim that Titans are not gaming cards, so their sale shouldn't be bothered with 780Ti.

I'm confused :|

RCoonBut agreed, this card is a waste of time and money. 4/6GB VRAM or bust.

When I played Thief on my 1440p display on my Titan, VRam was above 4GB. So what?



The frame limiting effect is minimal if even relevant, certainly that would not be noticeable. Given the 3GB of a faster 780ti negates the 4 or 6GB of a slightly slower card (Titan or 290) it shows a very small effect. At 1440p my 780ti is about 10-15% faster than my Titan was. Half the memory but faster. Even in games where the VRam is being maxed out, it still plays smoothly and fast. Too many people state VRam as being a limiting factor - yes it is at certain thresholds but for now, 3GB video memory is sufficient for most.

I agree though the only reason 780TI's do not have 6GB is because it would make the Titan Black more obsolete than it already is for gaming. And making a 6GB 780 was just fail.

And FTR, I think the Galaxy card looks pretty cool.

EDIT:

Yeah, VRam is pretty meaningless (to an extent)



A GTX690 only has 2GB per gpu, but beats a 4GB 290X. And given a 780 (20% faster than a single 680) is at 31fps and the 690 at 49fps, it's kind of clear cut.

looks amazing.

If I had a custom loop and it was upgrade time, I would be touching myself very inappropriately while reaching for my wallet.

Backplate? Wonder if I'd have to put a paper bag over it.

the54thvoidWhen I played Thief on my 1440p display on my Titan, VRam was above 4GB. So what?


The frame limiting effect is minimal if even relevant, certainly that would not be noticeable. Given the 3GB of a faster 780ti negates the 4 or 6GB of a slightly slower card (Titan or 290) it shows a very small effect. At 1440p my 780ti is about 10-15% faster than my Titan was. Half the memory but faster. Even in games where the VRam is being maxed out, it still plays smoothly and fast. Too many people state VRam as being a limiting factor - yes it is at certain thresholds but for now, 3GB video memory is sufficient for most.

I agree though the only reason 780TI's do not have 6GB is because it would make the Titan Black more obsolete than it already is for gaming. And making a 6GB 780 was just fail.

And FTR, I think the Galaxy card looks pretty cool.

EDIT:

Yeah, VRam is pretty meaningless (to an extent)


A GTX690 only has 2GB per gpu, but beats a 4GB 290X. And given a 780 (20% faster than a single 680) is at 31fps and the 690 at 49fps, it's kind of clear cut.

I guess you haven't play Thief at 4k with a 2GB card. The fps maybe high, but the stutter, hiccup, lost textures are everywhere. If you look at some reviews with FCAT, you will see how horrible 2GB cards with high res in modern games

Isn't this the card that whooped the EVGA kingpin's ass?

plus lol people using watchdogs as reference to the VRAM limit. I know people with 4 GB cards. I know one person who has a 6GB card. all of them have the stuttering and hiccups.

watchdogs is just a horribly optimized game hence why they are working on a patch.

VRAM isn't the issue these days. it's the processing power. I have seen results of a 780ti VS titan black @4K with the results being so close to each other that its neglectable. hell sometimes the 780Ti won so much for that 6 gigs of VRAM.

people who go "YEAH BUT LOOK ON MY TITAN BLACK THE GAME USES 5!!!!!!!!!!! gigs of ram. well yeah put it in a 3 gig card and it will use like 2 gigs of ram. just because there is a bigger buffer doesn't mean that its gonna render faster. hell then a 6 gb 780 should be almost double the speed of a normal 780 because of the double ram at 4K. but we know that doesn't happen. because 4K is too much data for a GPU to render right now. its not the VRAM its the processing that is lagging behind. hence why they needed 4 titans to render that one 8K thing(if I remembered correctly) it wasn't the VRAM that was the issue but just one or two titans were not enough horsepower.

Don't look at the fps. The real experience is a hell of pain when you don't have enough VRAM.

sweetDon't look at the fps. The real experience is a hell of pain when you don't have enough VRAM.

Titan Fall used 4GB+ on my Titan. As it is locked at 60Hz, the extra power of my 780ti was irrelevant but even with a limited 3GB of VRam there was no problem with stuttering.

Like i said, there is a threshold and 4K gaming on a 2GB card is maybe a bit optimistic. But frame throughput on an adequate buffer is fine. Bad programming is also the major key - BF4 struggles to use 2.5GB at 1440p on max settings and 8xAA and it's still one of the nicer looking titles. CoD Ghosts used 6GB ffs.

OFC Vram matters but the point is, on a 780Ti (a very fast card indeed), 3GB is adequate.

You should fill out your system specs Sweet, pin your colours to the flag.

the54thvoidTitan Fall used 4GB+ on my Titan. As it is locked at 60Hz, the extra power of my 780ti was irrelevant but even with a limited 3GB of VRam there was no problem with stuttering.

Like i said, there is a threshold and 4K gaming on a 2GB card is maybe a bit optimistic. But frame throughput on an adequate buffer is fine. Bad programming is also the major key - BF4 struggles to use 2.5GB at 1440p on max settings and 8xAA and it's still one of the nicer looking titles. CoD Ghosts used 6GB ffs.

OFC Vram matters but the point is, on a 780Ti (a very fast card indeed), 3GB is adequate.

You should fill out your system specs Sweet, pin your colours to the flag.

^ this. if a GPU is powerful enough it doesn't need 6 gigs of ram.

a 780Ti with 3 gigs of ram will defeat a 4 gig 680 at 4K easily. because of the extra horsepower.

it's a shame bad programming makes people think that more VRAM is the solution. no it's god awful programming.

I played the titanfall beta with everything maxed with no stuttering. watchdogs is pretty fine at 1440p with everything maxed except AA that is at MSAA X4(i think?) it stutters once in a while because of rain of explosions but most of the time it runs smoothly.

the54thvoidTitan Fall used 4GB+ on my Titan. As it is locked at 60Hz, the extra power of my 780ti was irrelevant but even with a limited 3GB of VRam there was no problem with stuttering.

Like i said, there is a threshold and 4K gaming on a 2GB card is maybe a bit optimistic. But frame throughput on an adequate buffer is fine. Bad programming is also the major key - BF4 struggles to use 2.5GB at 1440p on max settings and 8xAA and it's still one of the nicer looking titles. CoD Ghosts used 6GB ffs.

OFC Vram matters but the point is, on a 780Ti (a very fast card indeed), 3GB is adequate.

You should fill out your system specs Sweet, pin your colours to the flag.

I agree somewhat, but I feel adequate should not be a selling point for one of the top priced gaming GPU's. At 4k right now ram usage is holding back some of the extra power coming from the 780ti's that could easily be doing much more. There are instances where the Titan (Not Titan Black) take over the 780ti when the GPU is better.

This card is sick, but the fact is buying a card that is already hitting its limits in Vram when its one of the most expensive cards on the market is a bit extreme to say the least. Even though the selection of games that do use up this frame buffer are limited, it will only grow as time moves on and graphics start hitting new levels.

Nothing wrong with this card specifically, but the needs of a 6gb which supposedly is coming soon from EVGA will really push the 780ti to its real limits. I would rather purchase up to 3 GTX 780 6gb editions, water cool them, and overclock the life out of them than buy some 780ti's 3gb edition right now.

As far as the HOF card is concerned, its beyond an excellent card and I would love to do a white themed machine now with the new Asus white boards...They look beyond sick and these are killer overclockers.

The blue coolant matches those caps. Classy indeed.

DarklyspectreIsn't this the card that whooped the EVGA kingpin's ass?

This + the ASUS Matrix. Both sick cards. The bad about Galaxy HOF's is that the VRM catch fire.

sweetI'm sick with these 780TI 3GB. Such a waste of performance. This card will be obsolated in next year with more VRAM-bound games like Watchdog. Why the hell nVidia hasn't put 6 GB on this board? The only reason I can think of is to save the Titan Black sale.

But wait, some guys on Internet claim that Titans are not gaming cards, so their sale shouldn't be bothered with 780Ti.

I'm confused :|

If you're sick, go see a doctor.

The reason you see all the 3GB of the VRAM ocupied is because of the technique similar to Windows's prefetch on RAM.
The newest games engines actually are caching all the VRAM to further accelerate texture display IF necessary. That's why you'll see the same performance of a card with 2-3GB of VRAM compared to a 6GB one, but the same 99% VRAM occupancy on both. ;)

Prima.VeraThe reason you see all the 3GB of the VRAM ocupied is because of the technique similar to Windows's prefetch on RAM.
The newest games engines actually are caching all the VRAM to further accelerate texture display IF necessary. That's why you'll see the same performance of a card with 2-3GB of VRAM compared to a 6GB one, but the same 99% VRAM occupancy on both. ;)

But it all comes down to the game, in the end there are games out there exceeding the 3gb threshold or running right at it already not including games that just cache the ram. Case and point the prime example would be Crysis 3.

GhostRyderBut it all comes down to the game, in the end there are games out there exceeding the 3gb threshold or running right at it already not including games that just cache the ram. Case and point the prime example would be Crysis 3.

Actually CryEngine is using the same procedure of caching the VRAM. A good example would have been Skyrim with some of the 2K texture packs, but that's overkill for a 1080p monitor IMO.

Prima.VeraActually CryEngine is using the same procedure of caching the VRAM. A good example would have been Skyrim with some of the 2K texture packs, but that's overkill for a 1080p monitor IMO.

They are, but Crysis 3 still exceeds the 3gb threshold.