marsey99how exactly can it be the full fat core if it has things removed?

They are there having another function, I suppose.

I just realised AMD's GPU's are going to start sounding like Intel Extreme processors:

R9390X, just wait for the cut down R9360X and R9330X :laugh:

RCoonIs this the unlocked cores that 8PACK accidentally blurted out on the OCUK forums? Something about the 290X chip not being fully unlocked.
I'd find it highly unlikely that adding a few extra cores to an existing archi would warrant a whole new series of card though. Merely speculation.

Hell, look at all the rebrands with NO changes, lol... I wouldn't put it past them... but doubt it at the same time.

Knew this was coming, like rcoon mentioned theres been a few leaks and rumours.

Looks good though.. maybe 3 with the X99 Asus deluxe.... PORN!

Why I even read these GPU news articles anymore is anyone's guess.. I think I need to get my head checked. All I ever mostly see is pissing and moaning from certain parties.

Such negativity lately on tpu is starting to be a real downer...

Thanks OP for the news feed,
To me red or green I WELCOME the new hardware be it as it is, change is always nice and welcomed in my books..

I won't flame on anyone in general but when I read certain comments I think to myself.... Why don't they work for those companies??

There's real engineers and then there's the Google knowitalls ;)

What made me truly impartial was trying out hardware from red, green and blue. I guess people can be scorned and vent that out on forums or be naive and inexperienced.

edit: cool looking leaf blower lol

when you start with this psychological nonsense, I start vomiting :(

RCoonI just realised AMD's GPU's are going to start sounding like Intel Extreme processors:

R9390X, just wait for the cut down R9360X and R9330X :laugh:

That would be awesome, time to start mixing and matching parts to try to confuse people :laugh:

fullinfusionWhy I even read these GPU news articles anymore is anyone's guess.. I think I need to get my head checked. All I ever mostly see is pissing and moaning from certain parties.

Such negativity lately on tpu is starting to be a real downer...

Thanks OP for the news feed,
To me red or green I WELCOME the new hardware be it as it is, change is always nice and welcomed in my books..

I won't flame on anyone in general but when I read certain comments I think to myself.... Why don't they work for those companies??

There's real engineers and then there's the Google knowitalls ;)

^This, its always the same people who complain article to article no matter what team or what is coming out, I agree with you! Edit:

Its cool to see a reference model with an AIO in all honesty if that turns out to be true. Its something that could provide the average user with a quiet machine and the max overclocks without having to worry about crazy setups and such. Air cooling is still going to be a choice for those who want it, but now doing this is going to give people another option. I really did love PNY when they did the LC systems on the GTX 580 as they worked great in my eyes and I feel the 295X2 had a really nice reference concept.

This is also just a quick shot to spin up hype which is common when the other company has something special or coming soon. We have to wait for more details to surface before claims are made.

....You know the only reason the 980 didn't seem to be note worthy (besides power consumption) is because truely it is the 970 and the 970 is really a 960. Nvidia knew Amd would relase a 390 and Now Nvidia will drop their true high end card .....and price it accordingly

fullinfusionOk smart ass show me one of my posts where I posted on an article bitching and complaining... Same ppl lmao

You can see who the suck ups are and the idiots... No pun intended... Go start searching away on all my so called article posts before pointing fingers troll man. But then I cant blame you if you didnt read what i said if full you didn't understand my post about welcoming new hardware lol

...I didn't say you were bitching and complaining, I meant I liked your comment and agreed with you that the same people come out complaining on every article no matter what comes out...

Sorry if my wording was off.

The cooler looks great. I just can't imagine the 390/390x competing with 970/980s, seems that it would compete closer to 780ti or it's successor.

GhostRyder...I didn't say you were bitching and complaining, I meant I liked your comment and agreed with you that the same people come out complaining on every article no matter what comes out...

Sorry if my wording was off.

Lol no worries comment deleted.. I guess we share the same wording off ... I have a habbit of doing that too lol.. Thanks man

fullinfusionLol no worries comment deleted.. I guess we share the same wording off ... I have a habbit of doing that too lol.. Thanks man

No problem, I just wanted to make sure there was not some confusion because I completely agree with you :). I should have been more clear with what I was referring to. I agree that people keep complaining about new hardware and take things to literally or assume before full release.

I wish we could get through an article without the same few people starting up arguments about new hardware. I mean just because something has a 6+8pin connector does not automatically mean its going to be power hungry or because there is a reference AIO that the card is going to heat up hotter than the sun. Sometime things are put on it to cater to enthusiasts or people who want more from their card. I for one love the idea even if I still would put a water block on it and prefer cheaper reference cards for the reason of removing the cooler.

@GhostRyder No need explain because I do the same thing at times.. And shh don't stir the worms up lol..

I can't see a picture of this new card till I get off roaming... But sure hope there's one to see when I get home. Its going to be a pain in the butt for crossfire users having 2 rads and such.. It be real cool if AMD designed the loop for crossfire users like us so all we need to do is a quick hose removal and replace with an added component but till its final who knows.. I know my 650d case won't take two extra rads but where there's a will there's a way.

Edit:, curiously I had to enable pictures and there goes.my monthly plan lol..
They need quick disconnect fittings and a serviceable rad to refill the system.. Also a few extra small hoses and a few extra long ones and crossfire would be so easy with this card on a single 120 rad providing it was thick enough, had the proper fpi and pressure fan.. @amd I'm talking to you!

fullinfusion@GhostRyder No need explain because I do the same thing at times.. And shh don't stir the worms up lol..

Trying not to ;)

fullinfusionI can't see a picture of this new card till I get off roaming... But sure hope there's one to see when I get home. Its going to be a pain in the butt for crossfire users having 2 rads and such.. It be real cool if AMD designed the loop for crossfire users like us so all we need to do is a quick hose removal and replace with an added component but till its final who knows.. I know my 650d case won't take two extra rads but where there's a will there's a way.

That is one of the issues I would see with this, hopefully there will be air cooled models from the other OEMs at launch or soon after. Not everyone would like to deal with that type of cooler or has a case the size of a car :P

AMD is lagging behind, they need to pick up the pace in terms of design if they want the high-performance throne this year. All they are doing is relying on a solution to be the bridge to higher specs when they should be looking into higher-quality OEM components to reduce the temperatures towards overclocking.

Garbage

DeadlyraverAMD is lagging behind, they need to pick up the pace in terms of design if they want the high-performance throne this year. All they are doing is relying on a solution to be the bridge to higher specs when they should be looking into higher-quality OEM components to reduce the temperatures towards overclocking.

The AMD card have some of the highest quality PCB components available on the market it's just the cores that are power hungry.

One says garbage another says lagging behind.
The one that said garbage, why is it garbage? Your system spec says 2 titans no? Does the new AMD card make you feel threatened in any kind of way especially after dumping $800,on a gsync monitor?? I'm asking and not here to argue. I betcha if it was from nvidia youd be praising hallalja finally!! No?

I'm serious these one word posts shouldn't even be allowed..

And the other comment about lagging behind.. Who they lagging behind nvidia? Wasn't nvidia lagging a few years ago?

Look at it this way, maybe AMD is doing it for a reason.. No one knows what the reason is unless your god lol.. Its like anything in life. Some excel at things where others go at there own pace. You also didn't bear the bit coin miners complain on AMD cards and the coins they raked in did ya.

It all boils down to preference. Me, I like AMD, always have and always will. Why? Because I owned nvidia before and I didn't like there driver software to control the card plus you needed other software to control clock speeds.. I just four d AMD/ ATI much better for me and have stuck with them sense the 3800 series. Some say well nvidia don't have screen tare, I know my AMD card has zero issues in that reguard and why's that PPP ask? Its called before playing the game go into the graphics setting and change the resolution.. Enter.. Save then go back and set it to your normal setting and problem solved ;)

Sorry I ramble when board and passing the miles is much easier lol..

Anyone predict a price on these cards?
If they make a reference.blower type my guess would be around $400 and water around $489..
Unless mineing goes full out again lol

fullinfusionAnyone predict a price on these cards?

It's in your *best* interest to ask the company for lower cost. Don't be more stupid than they are when all the time by all means they look only how to lower cost and gain more profit.

$400 would be quite nice but I know they have the habit to price those at at least $549.99. :rolleyes:

meh :D

DeadlyraverAMD is lagging behind, they need to pick up the pace in terms of design if they want the high-performance throne this year. All they are doing is relying on a solution to be the bridge to higher specs when they should be looking into higher-quality OEM components to reduce the temperatures towards overclocking.

NVIDIA owner here...In my opinion AMD already took the crown this year with the 295x2. GPUBoss has the 295x2 and Titan Z practically equal in Compute and Synthetic performance. With a 1000$ price versus the Z's $3000, I would say NVIDIA got blind-sided. Factor the OEM water block AMD includes at $1500, they are still doing more with less cost. Question is can AMD do it again with the 390X versus the 980.

What do you use to determine the mythical "Performance Crown?"

and for Mr. JHH even this is not enough, not very long time ago he used the time to explain how there was even more room for price increase. :D

Gosh, lot's of angst in here.....

Everyone seems to be missing the point. Why is Maxwell good? More efficiency than Kepler. Why is this good? Because for the entire industry, efficiency is good. For the end user, efficiency is good.

This post is about a water loop design for a card from the outset. That sets alarm bells ringing in this house. The 295x2 was AMD's Lance of Ungodly Awesomeness. It truly slayed Nvidia's most powerful beast and AMD deserve all the credit they can get for making green look dumb as fuck.

HOWEVER, if their next gpu flagship (single chip) requires a water loop as the base construct.... WTF? Every single chip vendor, be it Qualcomm, Nvidia, Intel, AMD APU's etc are driving toward efficiency. It seems unreasonable to slap a water block on a card that didn't need it so you have to assume that if this is for AMD's next single chip, it's already in the wrong place.

I'm all for a 390X to compete with 980 (or 980Ti, depending on release dates) but not if AMD need to cool it with a water solution.

I'm going to fly against all of you people and call this out as FUD. In the current ecosystem, any move to higher power consumption on a new architecture is a negative move. And if it's not got higher consumption, why slap a water block on it?

Nah, something smells here. I'll believe it only when I see it.

FrustratedGarrettBy cut down I meant a highly truncated design. The Maxwell chip has a 128 bit memory interface

Uncore typically accounts for just over half the area of a GPU die, and the largest part of the uncore are the memory interfaces and controllers. Obviously, the trade off came down to decreasing vRAM I/O die area to increase yields amongst other things. Pretty common practice for high-volume chips (see AMD's Cape Verde and Bonaire for example)

FrustratedGarrett...and no 64 bit floating point or integer operations support.

Ah, I see - well in that case.........you're still wrong. GM 107 does include FP64 support (1:32). Obviously double precision is a must-have for a low-end card. :rolleyes:

I am against what you say and for what AMD want to do. Because ultimately higher power consumption equals to higher performance than if the former was lower. ;)

I am positive towards aggressive performance jumps. ;)