Thursday, May 7th 2015

AMD Fiji XT Reference PCB as Short as GTX 970 Reference, R9 295X2 Performance

AMD's upcoming Radeon R9 390X graphics cards will ship in two SKUs - an air-cooled one, with a moderately long reference design board (though not as long as the R9 290X), and a new Water-Cooled Edition (WCE) SKU, which will feature a very compact PCB - one that could be no bigger than that of the GeForce GTX 970 reference. This is possible because of AMD's HBM implementation. The 8 GB of memory on this card is present on the GPU package, as bare 3D-stacked DRAM dies, surrounding the GPU die, with an IHS covering everything; rather than the GPU package being surrounded by memory chips. Below is a mock-up of the card by ChipHell. It's not a picture. The radiator is off-proportions, the Radeon logo is misaligned, and the PCIe I/O is misaligned, etc. It should still give you a good idea of what the card looks like, particularly its length. Other specs on hand so far, include 4,096 GCN 1.2 stream processors, 256 TMUs, 128 ROPs, and a 4096-bit wide HBM interface, which at 1.25 GHz memory clock, will offer memory bandwidth of 640 GB/s.

While Fiji package will be bigger than that of, say, "Hawaii," overall the setup is more space-efficient, and conserves PCB real-estate. The PCB hence only has the GPU package and the VRM. AMD is doing away with the DVI connector on its reference PCB. It will only feature three DisplayPort 1.2a and one HDMI 2.0a. The WCE variant will feature a pump+block covering the GPU package, which will come factory-fitted to a 120 x 120 mm radiator. The air-cooled R9 390X will be longer, but only to house a heatsink and lateral blower. The single-GPU card could offer performance comparable to the dual-GPU R9 295X2, which is faster than the GeForce GTX TITAN-X. AMD CEO Lisa Su, speaking at the Investor Day event, in New York, on 6th May, hinted that the product could launch on the sidelines of either Computex 2015 (early-June) or E3 (mid-June).
Image Courtesy: ChipHell. Many Thanks to GhostRyder for the tip.
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103 Comments on AMD Fiji XT Reference PCB as Short as GTX 970 Reference, R9 295X2 Performance

#26
blinxster
the54thvoidI'm on mobile so can't see but there is no source on that WCCFtech story? TPU clearly state that WCCFtech are the source. In doing so, the image is sourced WWCCFtech too.
If the image was given by AMD, WCCFTECH should cite AMD as source. If not, its not a legal image in the first place.

Best part is, I don't care. And please follow TPU forum rules and stop double/triple posting.

FTR, I am not employed or endorsed by TPU or its owners.
Wccftech is the Source! It was given to them,
You are wrong.
WCCFtech is under no obligation to disclose where that image come from however it is there property.
If its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.

Thats all I am saying
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#27
Zankza
blinxsterIf its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.
No you won't lol!
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#28
Lionheart
blinxsterYou are wrong.
WCCFtech is under no obligation to disclose where that image come from however it is there property.
If its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.

Thats all I am saying
Seriously stop your bitching & learn to use the edit button o_O
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#29
blinxster
FrickOr they sent him the original. He probably didn't remove the watermark by himself.
No they never.
It was taken from them. Zoom in you can notice the doctoring
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#30
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
I removed the watermark because it's ugly. I did make it a point to link to WCCFTech. If you follow our RSS (items are generated the moment a post is made on TPU), you'll find that this post linked back to WCCFTech from its very first iteration.

My understanding of your IP license conformed to your original images (eg: images you took in person, with your camera, like the images in our reviews). This one is a screencap of an AIB presentation.

If you think linking back to your article isn't enough, then I'll be happy to repost your "original" image. The intention wasn't to rip you off. There's a link to your article just 3 pixels south of the image.
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#31
dj-electric
The hardware world would be a better place without WCCF and its toxic, unmoderated community.
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#32
rooivalk
if anybody want to see



- Yes there's weird smudge in the center of TPU picture with uneven bandaid texture.
- There's slight artifact (jpeg compression maybe) throughout the picture although the wccf one is actually worse lol. Zoom to the vent at 500-600% and you could see big blocks everywhere. It could be because of application of filter though.

*run*
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#33
Beertintedgoggles
Hell, just remove the stupid picture from the article anyway. It doesn't add much if anything at all to the story. Problem solved, panties un-bunched.
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#34
mrw1986
blinxsterWCCftech clearly states what information is speculation with a *. You should read that if you want to know whats real or not

The fact this site took an image and doctored it is discusting.
Using an image is one thing, and legal. Doctoring other peoples property is no and is illegal.

WCCftech are the most honest site around who sound out rumours when they are.
They do not hold favouritism either which is why they got the image in the first place.

wccftech.com/amd-radeon-fiji-xt-r9-390x-pictured-features-small-form-factor-water-cooling/#comment-2010976646


You need to understand that
Holy cow dude, you need to chill out. "WCCftech are the most honest site around" is highly debatable. I feel just from how this is being handled WCCftech are going to lose a lot of visitors. Crying on a public forum is not the way to handle your problems.
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#35
Caring1
blinxsterYes it is the property of wccftech as it was given to them.
Given to them legally?
If the picture was originally leaked, then it isn't a legal copy as the ownership remains with the company source.
Oh look you can stop crying now, the watermark is back, or they used the picture that was illegally leaked to you guys.
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#36
PLAfiller
Caring1Given to them legally?
If the picture was originally leaked, then it isn't a legal copy as the ownership remains with the company source.
blinxsterWccftech is the Source! It was given to them,
You are wrong.
WCCFtech is under no obligation to disclose where that image come from however it is there property.
If its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.

Thats all I am saying
That's not "all" what you are saying. And it's not what you say, but how you say it. I don't really like the way you attack a comminity I've been a member for years with nothing to show for.

Caring1 is right. Even hiring a photographer, you still don't own the rights of the picture. You are only an employer. Techincally, if AMD didn't buy over the rights they only have licence over the image.
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#37
Caring1
blinxsterWccftech is the Source! It was given to them,
You are wrong.
WCCFtech is under no obligation to disclose where that image come from however it is there property.
If its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.

Thats all I am saying
I'm sure there is a professional way to dispute ownership rights through PM, then there is your method of chucking a tanty in a public forum.
I know which one makes you appear to be an idiot.
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#38
wickedcricket
Can you guys smell that??? Smells like a disgusting chip refresh to me.
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#39
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Caring1I'm sure there is a professional way to dispute ownership rights through PM, then there is your method of chucking a tanty in a public forum.
I know which one makes you appear to be an idiot.
I did get a PM, but the PM was sent 25 minutes _after_ the public rant.
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#40
Lionheart
Dj-ElectriCThe hardware world would be a better place without WCCF and its toxic, unmoderated community.
You can say that again, just went to that site for the very first time, the comment section was worse than youtube :fear:
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#41
GhostRyder
btarunrAMD is doing away with the DVI connector on its reference PCB. It will only feature three DisplayPort 1.2a and one HDMI 2.0a.
Image Courtesy: WCCFTech
Thank you AMD, finally a better layout of monitor outputs that I can actually get behind. I mean the R9 290X had horrible choices in outputs in my opinion compared to the HD 7970 and their dual GPU cards. Nvidia stepped up to the plate with that awesome choice of outputs which is what I was hoping AMD would do as well! Glad to see it.

Anxious to see this card in action, with it being smaller could be pretty cool but honestly not something I worry to much about personally. However I hope it has a great VRM and has the room for it as that is something I do not want to be cheap.
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#42
PLAfiller
GhostRyderThank you AMD, finally a better layout of monitor outputs that I can actually get behind. I mean the R9 290X had horrible choices in outputs in my opinion compared to the HD 7970 and their dual GPU cards. Nvidia stepped up to the plate with that awesome choice of outputs which is what I was hoping AMD would do as well! Glad to see it.

Anxious to see this card in action, with it being smaller could be pretty cool but honestly not something I worry to much about personally. However I hope it has a great VRM and has the room for it as that is something I do not want to be cheap.
I wonder when this trend will trickle down to LP cards as well. Like HDMI+DP combo as a base-line.
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#43
Octopuss
blinxsterWccftech is the Source! It was given to them,
You are wrong.
WCCFtech is under no obligation to disclose where that image come from however it is there property.
If its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.

Thats all I am saying
News for you: we don't give a shit. Go troll elsewhere.
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#44
Exceededgoku
blinxsterWccftech is the Source! It was given to them,
You are wrong.
WCCFtech is under no obligation to disclose where that image come from however it is there property.
If its not removed or replaced with the original I will be taking this further.

Thats all I am saying
And I'll be willing to defend them free of charge against aggressives like yourself.

No harm whatsoever done here, you don't own the original image. And if you do, then please show proof of where AMD gave you the image.
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#45
blinxster
WCCFtech own that image and they have no requirement to disclose where it come from.
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#46
blinxster
OctopussNews for you: we don't give a shit. Go troll elsewhere.
Wow,
everybody here really abusive.
At least the site owner understands the law
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#47
blinxster
LionheartYou can say that again, just went to that site for the very first time, the comment section was worse than youtube :fear:
Yeah because they allow for freedom of speech and they have more exclusives than anyone else.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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#48
blinxster
rooivalkif anybody want to see



- Yes there's weird smudge in the center of TPU picture with uneven bandaid texture.
- There's slight artifact (jpeg compression maybe) throughout the picture although the wccf one is actually worse lol. Zoom to the vent at 500-600% and you could see big blocks everywhere. It could be because of application of filter though.

*run*
The OP admitted what he did. There is no question.

The right thing has been done.
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#49
GhostRyder
@btarunr
Here switch the image to this one, better quality anyway and to get rid of this troll

No way to know if its anymore legit or not but this was linked on chip hell and similar so I thought it may be better and looks a little better.
blinxsterWow,
everybody here really abusive.
At least the site owner understands the law
Clearly the only one not understanding the law is you, you do not own the image end of story...Anything done was a courtesy to save the thread from continued arguing and to stop someone who cannot even abide by our forum rules.
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#50
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
GhostRyder@btarunr
Here switch the image to this one, better quality anyway and to get rid of this troll
.
xoxo

Credited you for the tip.

@WCCF guy: Lesson: Try to solve problems privately _before_ going public. No more hits from TPU.
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