Monday, June 22nd 2015

AMD Doesn't Trust its Own Processors - Project Quantum Driven by Intel Core i7-4790K

One of the three unexpected products based on the "Fiji" GPU, which AMD announced at its E3 event, Project Quantum, or the quest to design a 4K-worthy SFF gaming PC, which runs two "Fiji" GPUs in CrossFire, had the press assume that the rest of the system could be AMD-based, such as AMD-branded (albeit Patriot Memory manufactured) memory, AMD-branded (albeit OCZ manufactured) SSD; and importantly an AMD-made CPU or APU. Given its liquid-cooling, the prospect of a 95W "Godavari," or even upcoming "Carrizo" APU didn't seem far-fetched. Even a 95W FX CPU could have been deployed, since AM3+ on mini-ITX is not impossible.

When taken apart, Project Quantum was shown to be running an Intel Core i7-4790K "Devil's Canyon" CPU, on an ASRock-made mini-ITX motherboard, with its non-essential parts soldered out. The i7-4790K is neighbored by a pair of half-height Crucial Ballistix memory modules, which is excusable, since there are no half-height AMD Radeon memory modules, yet. The SSD is AMD-branded. The unit features a unified liquid cooling solution that's custom-made for AMD, by Asetek. A large (200 mm?) radiator, with a single fan, cools the CPU, the PCH, as well as the two "Fiji" GPUs.
Source: Kitguru
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188 Comments on AMD Doesn't Trust its Own Processors - Project Quantum Driven by Intel Core i7-4790K

#176
HumanSmoke
john_Do you see any new products with Denver cores? Does the lattest Nvidia products use cores from ARM and not Denver?
Well this seems all a bit off topic - your bailiwick it seems.
You must be new to technology.
Project Denver is ARM based

john_Do you see any new products with Denver cores?
You mean like the X1 powered Shield? AFAIA, X1 is being marketed for automotive in-car features (sensors. cameras) and entertainment systems, but it is being validatedfor consumer products aside from Shield.
You seem to think that Project Denver is something other than what it was always purported to be ( you're not alone Charlie D. couldn't work it out either). Maybe this from a couple of months back will shed some light
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#177
john_
HumanSmokeWell this seems all a bit off topic - your bailiwick it seems.
You must be new to technology.
Project Denver is ARM based



You mean like the X1 powered Shield? AFAIA, X1 is being marketed for automotive in-car features (sensors. cameras) and entertainment systems, but it is being validatedfor consumer products aside from Shield.
You seem to think that Project Denver is something other than what it was always purported to be ( you're not alone Charlie D. couldn't work it out either). Maybe this from a couple of months back will shed some light
"Some times it is better too chew than talk" from a gum advertising.

Tegra X1: The Heart Of the SHIELD Android TV - The NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV Review: A Premium 4K Set Top Box
Octa core, with 4 A57 cores and 4 A53 cores, not Denver cores.

Nvidia made two versions of K1. One with 2 Denver cores and one with 4 ARM cores. They used Denver cores in
Dual-core Denver CPU paired with a Kepler-based GPU solution (Tegra K1); the dual-core 2.3 GHz Denver was first used in the HTC Nexus 9 tablet, released November 3, 2014.[5][6]
based on your wiki page.

X1 is using 8 ARM cores. NO DENVER CORES. That's why they do not advertise the type of cores used in the new Shield device.

You may also want to look at the slides in the KitGuru article that you also posted. It says "ARM cores". So, NO DENVER CORES.





You are full of smoke.
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#178
wiak
Xaled-When AMD uses its own cpu peple say:
"Too sad for such hardware to get bottlenecked by such cpu just because AMD wants to use its own hardware"

-when AMD uses Intel cpu they say:
"AMD doesnt trust its hardware..
soo true. if someone was to benchmark the quantum pc with amd cpu they would say its slower than a pair of 960 in sli...
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#179
R-T-B
john_"Some times it is better too chew than talk" from a gum advertising.

Tegra X1: The Heart Of the SHIELD Android TV - The NVIDIA SHIELD Android TV Review: A Premium 4K Set Top Box
Octa core, with 4 A57 cores and 4 A53 cores, not Denver cores.

Nvidia made two versions of K1. One with 2 Denver cores and one with 4 ARM cores. They used Denver cores in
based on your wiki page.

X1 is using 8 ARM cores. NO DENVER CORES. That's why they do not advertise the type of cores used in the new Shield device.

You may also want to look at the slides in the KitGuru article that you also posted. It says "ARM cores". So, NO DENVER CORES.





You are full of smoke.
Uh... are you seriously arguing Denver is x86 based on the fact two Denver cores were used in the Nexus 9 (which is an ARM based device?). Or am I misunderstanding this?
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#180
Steevo
R-T-BUh... are you seriously arguing Denver is x86 based on the fact two Denver cores were used in the Nexus 9 (which is an ARM based device?). Or am I misunderstanding this?
There is no mention of X86 anywhere in that post.
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#181
R-T-B
SteevoThere is no mention of X86 anywhere in that post.
Thanks. I plead sleep deprivation. That was pretty stupid, but I coudl've sworn I saw it earlier.... lol.
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#182
Steevo
I do that too sometimes, or a lot of the time if I am honest.
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#183
john_
R-T-BUh... are you seriously arguing Denver is x86 based on the fact two Denver cores were used in the Nexus 9 (which is an ARM based device?). Or am I misunderstanding this?
It was just one of a few examples I used, where a company doesn't use it's own proprietary tech and that thing didn't lead to an editorial and 8 pages of comments. No mention of x86.
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#184
R-T-B
john_It was just one of a few examples I used, where a company doesn't use it's own proprietary tech and that thing didn't lead to an editorial and 8 pages of comments. No mention of x86.
Yeah, is all good man. Just misread your post. :)
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#185
john_
Yes I understood that. Just wanted to be clear. :)
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#186
Prima.Vera
Either way, this was by far the worst Marketing goof AMD pulled this year.
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#187
john_
It was just one more example of press using double standards and a proof that many hardware funs are happy to point a gun at AMD. On the other hand, for similar cases, involving other companies, logic prevails over mockery.
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#188
ValenOne
Prima.VeraEither way, this was by far the worst Marketing goof AMD pulled this year.
Either way, your view is filled with double standards
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