Monday, June 22nd 2015
AMD Doesn't Trust its Own Processors - Project Quantum Driven by Intel Core i7-4790K
One of the three unexpected products based on the "Fiji" GPU, which AMD announced at its E3 event, Project Quantum, or the quest to design a 4K-worthy SFF gaming PC, which runs two "Fiji" GPUs in CrossFire, had the press assume that the rest of the system could be AMD-based, such as AMD-branded (albeit Patriot Memory manufactured) memory, AMD-branded (albeit OCZ manufactured) SSD; and importantly an AMD-made CPU or APU. Given its liquid-cooling, the prospect of a 95W "Godavari," or even upcoming "Carrizo" APU didn't seem far-fetched. Even a 95W FX CPU could have been deployed, since AM3+ on mini-ITX is not impossible.
When taken apart, Project Quantum was shown to be running an Intel Core i7-4790K "Devil's Canyon" CPU, on an ASRock-made mini-ITX motherboard, with its non-essential parts soldered out. The i7-4790K is neighbored by a pair of half-height Crucial Ballistix memory modules, which is excusable, since there are no half-height AMD Radeon memory modules, yet. The SSD is AMD-branded. The unit features a unified liquid cooling solution that's custom-made for AMD, by Asetek. A large (200 mm?) radiator, with a single fan, cools the CPU, the PCH, as well as the two "Fiji" GPUs.
Source:
Kitguru
When taken apart, Project Quantum was shown to be running an Intel Core i7-4790K "Devil's Canyon" CPU, on an ASRock-made mini-ITX motherboard, with its non-essential parts soldered out. The i7-4790K is neighbored by a pair of half-height Crucial Ballistix memory modules, which is excusable, since there are no half-height AMD Radeon memory modules, yet. The SSD is AMD-branded. The unit features a unified liquid cooling solution that's custom-made for AMD, by Asetek. A large (200 mm?) radiator, with a single fan, cools the CPU, the PCH, as well as the two "Fiji" GPUs.
188 Comments on AMD Doesn't Trust its Own Processors - Project Quantum Driven by Intel Core i7-4790K
Yours sincerely, AMD fanboy
Can you buy Quantum? NO
Where is the problem? You'll likely see Quantum be available next year when they'll have Zen and when R9 Fury Maxx will be released, most likely some time in the fall or even winter 2015. Zen comes in 2016. But for the prototype they were forced to use Intel. You won't believe what all companies use to make prototypes and what then actually ends up in the same products when customers can buy them...
Its not like their own processors are know to spontaneously combust or something.
AMD just knows the competition has more high-end stuff out, a level at which they themselves dont compete at atm.
So for a so called high end machine, you turn in this case to the competition.
Here is hoping AMDs new future cpu's will wow us and perhaps will put them back in the high end category and perhaps power future Project Quantum setups.
That some insider info there man, watch out for that NDA
"Too sad for such hardware to get bottlenecked by such cpu just because AMD wants to use its own hardware"
-when AMD uses Intel cpu they say:
"AMD doesnt trust its hardware..
"omigodz AMD is using Intel CPU in a AMD branded mITX PC"
am i the only one who just say : "so what?"
AMD is also a GPU manufacturer and ... for that nice attempt ;)nope Fury X is better than what they offer :roll:
intel is not tied to nvidia luckily (nor is AMD GPU to AMD CPU )
also since the next AMD CPU line is not up, and the APU are not meant for that use: no big deal about using a Intel CPU for that demo, right...
dont make them say what they didn't say:roll:(that post is good) ahah
Sorta like how the rightwingers call Obama both a dictator and a "mom jean wearing weakling that should be more like Putin", whatever suits them best atm to use against Obama.
so then : logical choice (even for a demo)
even if a dual X8 2.0 is not a bottleneck atm (for actual card ... for that kind of cards used in : who knows)yeah right ... a AMD cpu : 125w a intel CPU: 88w... HUGGGE difference "OH MY GOD" effect inserted... (well the one in the box seems to be OC'ed so it's closer to 130w than 88w )
tho that setup seems to be good new for me ... i can put a CFX Fiji in my rig and keep only a single loop cpu/gpu on the 2 240mm rad ... bhahahaah (just need to witch the DC12-220 to a 260/400 maybe...)
anyway, it's more of a proof of concept methink, so it wouldn't matter what processor they use
Now if only btarunr would learn the same lesson, but I'll let him slide because journalism and headlines IS what he does afterall, lol. (Just messing with you a bit, man).
They may offer an excellent performance/price ratio but we do know that AMD has lost big share of laptops market share juat because they insist on using their own cpu, 7970 mobility was an excellent gpu but it was killed by AMD..
Besides, CPU is one of AMD core business. If they're not using their own products over their own AMD branded project and worse, give a way to their SOLE competitor, it's fair to say <insert any brand here> doesn't trust their own product.
There're too much example for this. For example: French president is using Citroen/Peugeot for official state car, even though it's just compact or medium car not full size (and probably better armored) sedan which is commonly used by the presidents of the rest of the world. France Air Force is also bought it's own Rafale before exporting it (although they don't really want to buy it) far before Rafale hit jackpot with Indian Air Force.
It's logical for end user to use Intel over AMD CPU but not for AMD themselves. It's simply bad precedent.
for the second line yes pretty much: it doesn't matter.