Wednesday, May 11th 2016
AMD Pulls Radeon "Vega" Launch to October
In the wake of NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 graphics cards, which if live up to their launch marketing, could render AMD's high-end lineup woefully outperformed, AMD reportedly decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10, from its scheduled early-2017 launch, to October 2016. Vega10 is a successor to "Grenada," and will be built on the 5th generation Graphics CoreNext architecture (codenamed "Vega").
Vega10 will be a multi-chip module, and feature HBM2 memory. The 14 nm architecture will feature higher performance/Watt than even the upcoming "Polaris" architecture. "Vega10" isn't a successor to "Fiji," though. That honor is reserved for "Vega11." It is speculated that Vega10 will feature 4096 stream processors, and will power graphics cards that compete with the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Vega11, on the other hand, is expected to feature 6144 stream processors, and could take on the bigger GP100-based SKUs. Both Vega10 and Vega11 will feature 4096-bit HBM2 memory interfaces, but could differ in standard memory sizes (think 8 GB vs. 16 GB).
Source:
3DCenter.org
Vega10 will be a multi-chip module, and feature HBM2 memory. The 14 nm architecture will feature higher performance/Watt than even the upcoming "Polaris" architecture. "Vega10" isn't a successor to "Fiji," though. That honor is reserved for "Vega11." It is speculated that Vega10 will feature 4096 stream processors, and will power graphics cards that compete with the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Vega11, on the other hand, is expected to feature 6144 stream processors, and could take on the bigger GP100-based SKUs. Both Vega10 and Vega11 will feature 4096-bit HBM2 memory interfaces, but could differ in standard memory sizes (think 8 GB vs. 16 GB).
116 Comments on AMD Pulls Radeon "Vega" Launch to October
Same with Vega 11, should that not be 4096 shaders and Vega 10 with 3584?
There is a lot of weird information here.
It's all cat and mouse so it'd be really mature if people recognised that is what business is all about. Our impatient needs dont really matter to AMD or Nvidia. If true, this is a good play by AMD, to release a crippled version of Vega.
Then a gain, could be FUD or stealth PR.
Vega is AMD's answer to the 1070 & 1080
AMD probably didn't expected Nvidia to offer performance. They where probably expecting a $400-$450 1070 that will offer performance closer to GTX 980 than 980Ti, added with better efficiency and better DX12 support. That was my guess, by I don't get paid thousand of dollars to predict how my competitor will move. The stuff that should predict that, failed. So now they are in a hurry to save that 20-24% of their market share.
I don't like Fury Series because very low OC potential. Hope that AMD will fix this.
Now it's time for damage control with all this reactive actions
What I still wonder is, whether they can take on 1070 with higher clocks (that quantum break demo was 800Mhz)
Oh well, we'll see it soon.
Any two chips sharing a package constitutes an MCM.
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Only Vega should come with HBM 2 rather than HBM 1 on current Fury cards... so it will allow 8GB vs 4GB limit on HBM... that's why Fury cards only have 4GB of video memory ( except the Duo Pro which has 2x 4GB configuration duo to two GPU's there )
I really dont think AMD have been caught out, Everyone in the industry has expected big performance gains with 16nm and 14nm. Die shrinks usually at least double performance from previous gen. Both companies have been slow getting to 16/14 nm and AMD are dealing with a new fab, and new technology like HBM/2. Actually the 1080/1070 is slower than I expected, in reality they are only slightly faster than last gen's highend like 980Ti and TitanX.
Both companies would be planning for a refresh too, You can be sure the 1080 and 1070 isnt a maxed out 16nm GPU, they always leave a little in the tank for Ti versions, then a refresh or 2 to milk the market and get their moneys worth.
IF Vega can smash GP104 and they can get the jump on big Pascal they can likely charge a premium to mitigate the supply issue.
If that's the case and they are going to charge a premium, then they better make sure it's a premium product.
"multi-chip module" means dual GPU or what?