RejZoRR9-290X -> R9-390X -> R9-490X, all being basically exactly the same in performance

490x isn't on the horizon yet (480/480x is what was leaked), and wasn't there about 5% jump going to 390x from 290x?

Sounds like this card will be in the buyer's sweet spot.

qubitSounds like this card will be in the buyer's sweet spot.

If the price is right for the non-reference...
I hope below 550 Euros.

AssimilatorProbably because it shows that, at best, Polaris C4 sits between GTX 970 and GTX 980 performance, whereas Polaris C7 sits between GTX 980 and Fury, and nobody's really interested in a new architecture that's not faster than the previous generation.

Polaris C7 is suppose to be $ 300 card and its matching performance of Fury and no one is interested ?? Again Polaris C4 which is suppose to be sub $ 250 card and matching the performance of GTX 980 and no one is interested to even post news. Interesting.

P4-630If the price is right for the non-reference...
I hope below 550 Euros.

Sounds like it will be judging by the price in the article.

HumanSmokeProbably for the same reason that Videocardz weren't keen on publishing the results themselves

Hardly a glowing recommendation.

Fair enough, but I still think some sort of news should have been posted, with a warning of a rumor of course.

IceScreamerFair enough, but I still think some sort of news should have been posted, with a warning of a rumor of course.

Well, at least there were some news about its silhouette:

GIGABYTE teased a silhouette of its upcoming GeForce GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming graphics card`

Oh wait, it was about competitor's card...

medi01Well, at least there were some news about its silhouette:

GIGABYTE teased a silhouette of its upcoming GeForce GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming graphics card`

Oh wait, it was about competitor's card...

You got fish on the other shoulder? That there's a tasty dinner.

medi01490x isn't on the horizon yet (480/480x is what was leaked), and wasn't there about 5% jump going to 390x from 290x?

490X will probably be a Vega card. AMD is not going to want to debut 390X, 490X, and 590X inside of year.

I seriously doubt Polaris will get anywhere close to GTX 1080. Pretty sure it will struggle against GTX 1070 too, sadly. AMD's answer to both is Vega. AMD had to bring Polaris to market first because of PS4K and Nintendo NX.

jigar2speedPolaris C7 is suppose to be $ 300 card and its matching performance of Fury and no one is interested ?? Again Polaris C4 which is suppose to be sub $ 250 card and matching the performance of GTX 980 and no one is interested to even post news. Interesting.

Which only makes it interesting for people who do not already own R9-390X or GTX 980. Like myself. This card is entirely pointless for me even if they are giving it away for free. But alright, if this is planned as replacement for R9-380X... Then again, wasn't R9-380X a competition for GTX 970 ? So, where does this fall in against GTX 1070 then?

WOW I am impressed I can't wait this my next GPU GTX 1070 been waiting for a long time for an upgraded glad I waited moving from GTX 500 series Fermi to Pascal skipped all the rest I was hopeing that gtx 1070 would be atleast equal to a 980Ti and I was still going to upgrade but at those results thank you NVidia the best bank for the buck ever.

RejZoRWhich only makes it interesting for people who do not already own R9-390X or GTX 980. Like myself. This card is entirely pointless for me even if they are giving it away for free. But alright, if this is planned as replacement for R9-380X... Then again, wasn't R9-380X a competition for GTX 970 ? So, where does this fall in against GTX 1070 then?

R9 380 X entered the market and took almost 6% market share from Nvidia in 1 quarter - that was a sub $300 card.

Nvidia has nothing right now to counter R9 380X let alone Polaris, which will only make thing worst for them.

EDIT: its a common interest of PC enthusiasts to purchase the best card in the market (usually cost above $500), yet they simply ignore the fact that most of the business Nvidia and AMD gets is from sub $300 cards, this is exactly where AMD is about to hit Nvidia.

RejZoRWhat the hell is the point of Polaris then? I really don't understand AMD sometimes...

R9-290X -> R9-390X -> R9-490X, all being basically exactly the same in performance, just with slightly lower power consumption with each iteration. No one frigging cares about power consumption. People only care about it when there is performance, but not at a heavy cost of consumption. You know, like the GeForce FX that was literally just a load of hot air and very little performance.

And if R9-490X won't be beating R9 Fury, again, what's the point of this card exactly? Seeing how R9-390X is so close to R9 Fury, what will trhey be selling? A new name? It's almost like AMD doesn't understand progression anymore. High end today is next year's mid end. But they keep shuffling same high end through years under new names and very little changes. Ugh!?

R9 490X should be a bit faster than R9 Fury X. R9 Fury X 2 or whatever it'll be named should be quite faster than old R9 Fury X...

I think the R480 will probably be priced competitively to address the TAM (total available market) - that buzzword Roy Taylor keeps to be throwing around. The R9 490/490x might be Fury or above level performance, which is great in any case because it features twice the memory.

I think the GTX 1080 will be tackled with Vega around Oct-Nov, then nvidia will release the 1080Ti, and that will be pretty much it until 2018.

FluffmeisterThe second hand 980 Ti market is looking pretty tasty too now though! You can pickup a sweet 980 Ti custom for not a lot of money that beyond the mighty GTX 1080 smashes everything. :p

Im skeptical about the 1070 being better than the 980 Ti. It seems like a PR move to keep a lid on the P10 480 leak?

Nvidia said the 1070 is faster than the Titan at VR, right? not all across. I expect the 1070 to be very close to the 980 Ti but not faster in anyway.

the54thvoidYou got fish on the other shoulder?

I am afraid I only vaguely get what you tried to express here.
But then, I am no native English speaker.

FordGT90ConceptI seriously doubt Polaris will get anywhere close to GTX 1080. Pretty sure it will struggle against GTX 1070 too, sadly.

I second that, except sadness part.
Competing with 1070 without major drawbacks, such as power is most I could imagine in June (and that, rather unlikely).

However, I don't find under 140w 480x that is on par with Fury to be disappointing, especially if priced right.

Sad part would be worse 1060 outselling 470/480, because of the marketing hype... =)

AbsolutionNvidia said the 1070 is faster than the Titan at VR, right?

I'm not sure about it (anymore, great shady marketing by nVidia).
Anyhow, leaked benchmark shows it to indeed beat Titanium X.

RejZoRWhich only makes it interesting for people who do not already own R9-390X or GTX 980. Like myself. This card is entirely pointless for me even if they are giving it away for free. But alright, if this is planned as replacement for R9-380X... Then again, wasn't R9-380X a competition for GTX 970 ? So, where does this fall in against GTX 1070 then?

dude you are here on tpu every day yet you fail at checking reveiws of video cards which site is famous with! :shadedshu:
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/R9_390_Nitro/
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/
look at the tables. columns are sorted by relative performance www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/26.html

medi01I second that, except sadness part.
Competing with 1070 without major drawbacks, such as power is most I could imagine in June (and that, rather unlikely).

However, I don't find under 140w 480x that is on par with Fury to be disappointing, especially if priced right.

Sad part would be worse 1060 outselling 470/480, because of the marketing hype... =)

The sad part is AMD doesn't have a response until September at the earliest.

So what , the 980ti was faster than the TitanX also

FordGT90ConceptThe sad part is AMD doesn't have a response until September at the earliest.

But neither does nVidia. (for the lower part of the market) :)

Good point. One can easily argue mid-/upper-range is fiscally more important.

a whole 3% faster in a synthetic benchmark, oh wow, lets not go too crazy here...

And lets be honest, overprice product A to the moon, then bring out product B with the same performance at half the ridiculous price and we now have winner and are happy?

Again, up your standards people, I for one find it complete madness what I would currently have to pay for a GTX1080, about 800 - 900 euro....for something that runs a current game (in this case Crysis 3) at 2560x1440 at 51 fps....a current game, not even at 4k, 51fps....not 60, not 120, nope 51, for 800+ euro.
Yeah...idk guys, this seems rather nuts to me.

ZoneDymoAnd lets be honest, overprice product A to the moon, then bring out product B with the same performance at half the ridiculous price and we now have winner and are happy?

Again, up your standards people, I for one find it complete madness what I would currently have to pay for a GTX1080, about 800 - 900 euro....for something that runs a current game (in this case Crysis 3) at 2560x1440 at 51 fps....a current game, not even at 4k, 51fps....not 60, not 120, nope 51, for 800+ euro.
Yeah...idk guys, this seems rather nuts to me.

In a free market this is what can happen. People with money will buy them and people without will not, I can't afford a 1080, I am going to try my best to get a 1070 after I see the reviews. Maybe I will go with Polaris if that's what it comes to.

The people made the prices where they are.

dparis1977So what , the 980ti was faster than the TitanX also

nope :slap:

dparis1977So what , the 980ti was faster than the TitanX also

Correction GTX 980 Ti Stock Clocks is not faster and never was then a GTX Titan X Stock Clocks
Also note that GTX 1070 will easy hit over 2GHZ so even a super crazy overclocked Titan X or GTX 980 Ti will never beat a GTX 1070. end of story...

LightningJRIn a free market this is what can happen. People with money will buy them and people without will not, I can't afford a 1080, I am going to try my best to get a 1070 after I see the reviews. Maybe I will go with Polaris if that's what it comes to.

The people made the prices where they are.

I dont feel that way tbh, I feel people just more and more feel that an extra 50 bucks is alright, and then some more.
Michael Pachter once said they could easily sell the next GTA the first months for 100+ dollars.

Well ok, in a way you are right, people buying the product makes it a viable option, but that does not mean its ok, making people aware of what they are paying so much for might help.
Lots of people tend to be uninformed, I guess we can call it protecting people from themselves.

also being able to "afford" something is a rather open statement.
Im sure you could afford it, would be odd if your entire livelihood hand in the balance of about 1000 dollars, but you say you cant afford it because of the other concessions you would have to make you are not willing to do for a mere graphics card.
And just because you potentially could afford something does not mean you should actually buy it, certainly not if its just ridiculously priced.
Thats why I would much rather have us all make a statement by not buying products at this price point, it ruins it for all of us.

matarCorrection GTX 980 Ti Stock Clocks is not faster and never was then a GTX Titan X Stock Clocks
Also note that GTX 1070 will easy hit over 2GHZ sot even a super crazy overclocked Titan X or GTX 980 Ti will never beat a GTX 1070. end of story...

You get my thanks ;)