btarunrwhich means that NVIDIA intends to price this card competitively to the RX 480

I think that little nugget is debatable, and will have to wait until actual prices are released. NVIDIA has always priced higher than the competition, and if the first two Pascal's are any indication, we're likely not in for a cheap 1060.

In the end it's a win-win for consumers. GTX 1060 can be all this better than RX480, but if they don't price it somewhat close to RX480, they won't sell any because most people aren't willing to pay that much. Which means NVIDIA will have to release GTX 1050 that would compete with RX480 in the same price and performance range. But if NVIDIA sells GTX 1060 for RX480 price with better performance, consumers win again, because we'll get cheaper but faster performing cards. Like I said, win-win for us. Not so much for AMD. Or NVIDIA, depending on to which side market will swing this time around.

I think if you're Nvidia management you try to seize the opportunity with the 480 kind of turning out to be (although marketed incredibly well) a pretty big dud in performance. It leaves a big window with Vega not coming for awhile and 1070/1080 dominant where NV can really go for the knockout blow against AMD. From a personal standpoint I want to see AMD succeed for competition. But so far it looks like AMDs money problems are hurting R+D and that's leading to consistently putting out products that are hyped and then disappoint. It's cheaper to market than R+D and NV has money to do both and AMD doesn't appear to have more than marketing, so NV is pulling away in this race.

Checkmate. AMD shouldn't have even bothered to make the 480.

The GTX 1060 is claimed to be faster than the GeForce GTX 980

Really? Hmmm interesting. I wonder what 980 owners feel like

the price wont be right..

night.foxThe GTX 1060 is claimed to be faster than the GeForce GTX 980

Really? Hmmm interesting. I wonder what 980 owners feel like

I feel like skipping this generation XD

this means... never get a Geforce GTX "XX80" Video card again, and save money for the next Gen GeForce GTX "XX60" or get screwed by every VC new generation ...

night.foxThe GTX 1060 is claimed to be faster than the GeForce GTX 980

Really? Hmmm interesting. I wonder what 980 owners feel like

im almost certain that it will be, but if its not priced in the 200-250$ it will be also irrelevant even if it is at 300$ it will be too expensive for the majority of the users. if it goes on sale on the 250$ price though.. well then AMD will have a serious problem.

dozenfuryIt leaves a big window with Vega not coming for awhile and 1070/1080 dominant where NV can really go for the knockout blow against AMD.

Except that 1070/1080 are still not available in sufficient numbers and hyper-inflated with the Founders Edition price scheme to really dominate the upper tier market yet.

night.foxThe GTX 1060 is claimed to be faster than the GeForce GTX 980

Really? Hmmm interesting. I wonder what 980 owners feel like

Everyone knew that the gen after Fury and the 980 would be a process shrink. I'd imagine 980 owners were glad to be able to play games for the past year instead of waiting.

If you keep waiting, you'll never be able to play any games.

Kinda curious on the performance then. Seems like its going to be a good performer if their claims are true and it is more powerful than a GTX 980. I guess what will matter is how half the cores, much lower bandwidth, and similar clocks will adjust its performance compared to its bigger brothers.

Wonder what kind of cooler this is under the hood compared to the other two?

980 owners cant be mad.....actually no high or mid end card owners can be mad. This happens EVERY year. Its a lot less dramatic with cpus but for gpus.... the moment you hand the cashier your money, your successor has been announced crowned and coming soon.

I skipped 9xx generation because the improvements were too small. 10xx seems worth my time.

I mostly buy x60 line though, rarely x50, depending on my needs and budget.

alucasaI skipped 9xx generation because the improvements were too small. 10xx seems worth my time.

I mostly buy x60 line though, rarely x50, depending on my needs and budget.

+1 i guess ill be there with you, was wondering about 900 series, but 1060 is a tempting alternative,

Regards,

I mean, I already have a GTX 980 which overclocks reasonably well and is super quiet due to sweet cooler. At this point, anything that matches my card speed is meaningless to buy because I wouldn't actually gain anything, just lose a lot of money. Selling the card now would also be meaningless because it is essentially worth less just because of new generation launch. Which means I'll bugger away until I'll have an actual need to upgrade and spend then on whatever I'll feel like buying at that moment. Could be RX500/GTX 2000 series, could be even one after that, don't know. Currently, I just don't have any such need. All games I play run at max possible settings smooth as melted butter. Sure it's just 1080p, but it's 1080p on a 144Hz screen. And that's what I value a lot more than ultra hyper quad dual HD at crappy 60Hz.

EDIT:
Also be aware that GTX 980's that are still being sold will have to get cheaper than GTX 1060 if it will really match its speed, otherwise they'll never get rid of the stock. At which point, grabbing a last gen cheaper is still an interesting option. After all, you'll get the same performance.

I am sure RX 480 launch was the trigger to launch GTX 1060. Without RX 480, we would get 1060 next year.
So in that sense it did its purpose, although this really ruins the party for AMD if those performance figures are right.

TheGuruStudCheckmate. AMD shouldn't have even bothered to make the 480.

We wouldn't have seen this card, especially this early, without the RX 480.

xorbeWe wouldn't have seen this card, especially this early, without the RX 480.

So very true. These are indeed exciting times. Cant wait to see whats next! The bottom is really about to fall out of the second hand market though.......Honestly soon everyone is going to pushing something nice in their rigs for real cheap....new or old.

So 15% faster than a RX480 in best case situations for Nvidia (Assumption made as PR slides always seem to be best case) so likely 5-10% faster across the board. Probably $50 more than RX480 so will sell like hot cakes unless AIB RX480's can save AMD.

FinnersSo 15% faster than a RX480 in best case situations for Nvidia (Assumption made as PR slides always seem to be best case) so likely 5-10% faster across the board. Probably $50 more than RX480 so will sell like hot cakes unless AIB RX480's can save AMD.

for that performance difference the 50$ will be too much, the vast majority will go for either the 200$ 480 or the 470/1050, the sweet spot is the 200 mark, here in Greece the 480 goes for 350 euros, thats nowhere near the sweet spot, if the 1060 goes for the 50$ plus here will be more like 400-450 euros, and that is insane, the people that have that kind of money will go for the 1070 because of the huge gains even if it is more expensive. even in the US though why go for a 300$ card when for 200 you can have basically the same level of performance and 1 more gig of vram.

Nice, another graph that doesn't start at zero! Deceptive bastards.

Edit: HOLY FUUUUUUU.... that's a deceptive bastard! 1.1, 1.2, 1.3.... lol so it's not 2x faster, 15% like others said. Wow.

$ReaPeR$the price wont be right..

This.

Expect the 1060 Idiots Edition at least for $300.

Deception is everywhere nowadays. It's our job to filter through the deceptions and make proper analysis.

People who make graphs that don't start from 0 (zero) should be shot in the face or deported to some gulag at the very edge of coldest Siberia. With graphs starting somewhere in the middle, graphs entirely lose all meaning. You may just as well just show a spreadsheet and no graph at all because in the end you still have to look just at numbers because graph makes it look like it's a 3x difference where in reality it's 0.1x...