Monday, July 4th 2016

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Doesn't Support SLI? Reference PCB Difficult to Mod

Here are some more technical pictures of NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 reference-design board, which reveals quite a few features about the card. The biggest revelation is that the card completely lacks SLI bridge fingers. We wonder if NVIDIA has innovated a bridge-less SLI for this card, although we find it unlikely given the amount of efforts the company put into marketing the SLI HB bridge, and the reason SLI needs a bridge in the first place. Meanwhile, the Radeon RX 480 supports 4-way CrossFireX.

Next up, the PCB is shorter than the card itself, and NVIDIA's unique new reference-cooler makes the card about 50% longer than its PCB. NVIDIA listened to feedback about shorter PCBs pushing power connectors towards the middle of the cards; and innovated a unique design, in which the card's sole 6-pin PCIe power connector is located where you want it (towards the end), and internal high-current wires are soldered to the PCB. Neato? Think again. What if you want to change the cooler, or maybe use a water-block? Prepare to deal with six insulated wires sticking out of somewhere in the PCB, and running into that PCIe power receptacle. The rear PCB shot also seems to confirm the 192-bit memory bus, given how some memory chip pads are blanked out by lacking SMT components needed by the memory chip.
Source: PurePC.pl
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83 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Doesn't Support SLI? Reference PCB Difficult to Mod

#26
Maddox
Just another case of Nvidia doing what Nvidia does.
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#27
Air
This looks like a half backplate. So ugly.
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#28
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
MaddoxJust another case of Nvidia doing what Nvidia does.
Wonderful contribution. So, this is a case of:

1) Nvidia making another great card that delivers what is expected but at a slightly higher price point?
or
2) Nvidia making another product that drops a feature to make it less enticing to buy over the bigger cards?
or
3) Nvidia making an awful product that delivers nothing because people actually believe that drivel?
or

what?

GP106 is a card aimed at hitting the RX480 audience without it risking Nvidia's own GTX 1070 crowd. Before making vague posts you could do better to wait and see, then lay into them or not.

As far as I have witnessed Nvidia doing what Nvidia do is what's kept them on top. Why on earth would they change that?
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#29
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
dorsetknobSupport for 16 PCI Express 3.0 lanes from CPU, 20 PCI Express 3.0 lanes from PCH (LGA 1151)

So this is a PCI 16x ver 3 card and to run 2 Cards in SLI to at their FULL potential your Need more lanes

OR you gimp potential performance by running them at PCI 8 ver 3
Mind showing me a car limited by pcie 3.0 8x?
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#30
las
Musselsthis might be an amazing card, but no SLI from a premium product (This is NOT entry level) and potentially loose wires.... when was the last time soldered wires was acceptable on a video card? that instantly makes me think of someone making something at home or dodgy voltmods.
You are right, this is not entry level. But it's not premium either, not even close. It's probably around 980 performancewise - and if OC scaling is as bad as 1070/1080, then a 980 will probably beat it quite easy when both are overclocked.
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#31
RejZoR
the54thvoidWonderful contribution. So, this is a case of:

1) Nvidia making another great card that delivers what is expected but at a slightly higher price point?
or
2) Nvidia making another product that drops a feature to make it less enticing to buy over the bigger cards?
or
3) Nvidia making an awful product that delivers nothing because people actually believe that drivel?
or

what?

GP106 is a card aimed at hitting the RX480 audience without it risking Nvidia's own GTX 1070 crowd. Before making vague posts you could do better to wait and see, then lay into them or not.

As far as I have witnessed Nvidia doing what Nvidia do is what's kept them on top. Why on earth would they change that?
What keeps NVIDIA on top are fanboys. Fanboys everywhere. Fanboys for as far as eyesight goes...
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#32
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
RejZoRWhat keeps NVIDIA on top are fanboys. Fanboys everywhere. Fanboys for as far as eyesight goes...
You're absolutely delusional if you truly think that. :shadedshu:

Fanboys simply rant and moan and bitch. Consumers purchase the solutions that fit them the best and it's up to the companies to sell that product. Fanboys also rarely buy the stuff they bitch about.

As far as the GTX 1060 is concerned, I'll be surprised if it it's more appealing than the RX480 once the AMD AIB cards are released (and reviewed). If it were my market slot I'd be awaiting on reviews of AIB's from both camps. Nvidia have priced way too high for my ethics bar this time on the 1080 front and if they do the same on the 1060 I think it'll backfire, as long as it's the same ball park as the RX 480. What will truly hamper the 1060 will be DX12 performance as you can see the 1070 suffer a bit on that front compared to the 1080.

But no man, get a grip of yourself, fanboys don't make Nvidia the top dog. Ruthless business skills and delivering products that achieve their stated PR is.
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#33
bug
Seeing as SLI market is only at 1% or so, even if all SLI systems were built using mid-range cards, this still wouldn't affect much users.
Then again, I've never had the slightest interest in SLI so I really don't care.

Edit: Also, I thought this is the era of DX12 and Vulkan providing multi-GPU support and that we were moving away from vendor specific solutions (though Nvidia has taken the time to design a new SLI bridge for where they could milk a few bucks more).
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#34
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
I don't get why they can't just send that data through PCI Express. We know PCI Express x16 3.0 has twice the bandwidth any one graphics card needs. Crossfire proves an external connector is not necessary.
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#35
ixi
Hello, this is Nvidia!
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#37
ShurikN
GC_PaNzerFINMy guess is they saw how RX 480 performed and decided 192bit is enough.
I don't think they decide on stuff like bus width 30 days before release.
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#38
RejZoR
A lot of info about RX480 was known for quite a while. The info about performance as well. So they could kinda project performance enough through that. And if they'd underperform a bit, they have a GPU clock headroom. So they could fiddle with that before launch. 30 days to adjust clocks that they could arranged and test in advance is not to impossible.
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#39
TheinsanegamerN
dorsetknobSupport for 16 PCI Express 3.0 lanes from CPU, 20 PCI Express 3.0 lanes from PCH (LGA 1151)

So this is a PCI 16x ver 3 card and to run 2 Cards in SLI to at their FULL potential your Need more lanes

OR you gimp potential performance by running them at PCI 8 ver 3
So not enough for dual 1060s, but enough for dual 1080s? What sense does that make? If that were the case, the 1070s and 1080s wouldnt have SLI

3.0 x8 is enough for dual GPU, its just not enough for triple GPUS. We've known this for awhile.

The rumor is only the 3GB model cant SLI, the 6GB model can. nvidia is probably trying to avoid any vRAM outrages like with the 970. SLI 1060s would be terribly held back by 3GB of vRAM, and you know people would be complaining that nvidia screwedup again. So they simply removed the option altogether to prevent the future complaining and baseless claims of gimping on the fourms
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#40
ShurikN
RejZoRA lot of info about RX480 was known for quite a while. The info about performance as well. So they could kinda project performance enough through that. And if they'd underperform a bit, they have a GPU clock headroom. So they could fiddle with that before launch. 30 days to adjust clocks that they could arranged and test in advance is not to impossible.
Clock speeds ok, but i was talkin' about bus width, which imo is not somethimg you deside in the "last minute"
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#41
bug
ShurikNI don't think they decide on stuff like bus width 30 days before release.
I don't think they found out how 480 performs 30 days before release ;)
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#42
TheDeeGee
AirThis looks like a half backplate. So ugly.
Noone will see that with my closed case underneat my desk.
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#43
GhostRyder
the54thvoidThere are various rumours suggesting two variants with 3 and 6GB of VRam. The 3GB variant isn't sli capable but the 6GB version is.
As for the power connector, it's inventive and only an issue if the the cards cooler isn't very good (which would be a big whoops).
AIB's will no doubt release custom PCB's so it's no big deal. Same as the advice on the RX480, if you need a better cooler, buy a custom variant.

I guess we'll see in a few days.
See that is what I was thinking when I first saw this, its probably going to be a difference between the 3gb and 6gb because that is probably the reason you would want the 6gb anyways.

Either way, meh I think its a bad decision if they all did not support it but if its just the lower version I don't see an issue with that.
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#44
ensabrenoir
....if this card is really cheap yet packs a greater slightly punch than a 980.......from a business stand point I don't blame them for omitting sli fingers. What reason would someone have to buy a 1070 or potentially a 1080 if two cheap 1060 could match/surpass it?
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#45
jabbadap
TheinsanegamerNSo not enough for dual 1060s, but enough for dual 1080s? What sense does that make? If that were the case, the 1070s and 1080s wouldnt have SLI

3.0 x8 is enough for dual GPU, its just not enough for triple GPUS. We've known this for awhile.

The rumor is only the 3GB model cant SLI, the 6GB model can. nvidia is probably trying to avoid any vRAM outrages like with the 970. SLI 1060s would be terribly held back by 3GB of vRAM, and you know people would be complaining that nvidia screwedup again. So they simply removed the option altogether to prevent the future complaining and baseless claims of gimping on the fourms
While possible, I doubt they will design two different pcb:s for single chip...
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#46
ensabrenoir
FordGT90ConceptI don't get why they can't just send that data through PCI Express. We know PCI Express x16 3.0 has twice the bandwidth any one graphics card needs. Crossfire proves an external connector is not necessary.
.....why? Who would deprive themselves of an extra $30 to $50. Custom Sli bridges are like jewelry for gpus......you know like poodles with diamond collars nail polish and hair bows....



gotta show your gpus that you really love them....
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#47
ppn
I can see 1060 being 1-2% faster than 480. therefore the price should change.
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#48
TheGuruStud
bugI don't think they found out how 480 performs 30 days before release ;)
No kidding. I bet those POS just installed more spies at AMD (probably trying to rip off engineering, too).

They got caught once and nothing happened, why not keep doing it?
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#49
thesmokingman
ppnI can see 1060 being 1-2% faster than 480. therefore the price should change.
Maybe, maybe not. What is obvious though is that they are really sucking out the value in their value segment.
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#50
$ReaPeR$
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you got to love nvidia!!!!! LMFAO
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