Tuesday, July 5th 2016

AMD Retail Radeon RX 480 4GB to 8GB Memory Unlock Mod Works, We Benchmarked

Earlier this week, we heard reports of some early adopters of the 4 GB variant of AMD Radeon RX 480 claiming that their cards shipped with 8 GB of memory physically present on their cards, but their graphics card BIOS somehow prevented the GPU from addressing more than 4 GB of it. In its Reddit AMA, the company presented a vague answer to the question of whether such 4 GB cards are moddable to 8 GB by flashing it with the BIOS of the 8 GB variant, by stating that the ability to mod is restricted to review samples. This is both true and false. Short answer: retail 4 GB RX 480 can be flashed to 8 GB, and the modified card perfoms on par with the 8 GB variant.

AMD sent out review samples of the 8 GB variant, and to enable reviews to also put up reviews of the 4 GB variant, it sent a special BIOS that converts the 8 GB card to 4 GB, by reducing its address-space and memory clocks, perfectly simulating the 4 GB variant. AMD's claims of 4 GB cards with 8 GB physical memory being restricted to review samples was proven false when early adopters of retail 4 GB cards discovered eight Samsung 8 Gbit memory chips on their card amounting to 8 GB. We currently have an AIB partner-branded retail 4 GB Radeon RX 480 card which we bought online (invoice posted), and which we're using to prepare our 4 GB RX 480 review. We first discovered that our 4 GB retail card had the same exact Samsung 8x 8 Gb chips (including the same bin, specc'd for 8 Gbps) as the 8 GB card. We flashed this card with the 8 GB card's BIOS, and were successful in doing so. The trick here is to extract the BIOS of the 8 GB card with ATIFlash 2.74 and then transplanting that BIOS onto the 4 GB card. The 8 GB card BIOS image which we used, can be found here. Use at your own risk.
To confirm that this mod works, we first tested our 8 GB review sample with its untouched 8 GB BIOS, and used that as control. Next, we tested the retail 4 GB card with the BIOS it shipped with. Lastly, we flashed this 4 GB card using ATIFlash with the 8 GB BIOS, which we extracted from our 8 GB card using ATIFlash. We ran "Call of Duty: Black Ops III," on the three. This game can consume dedicated video memory beyond 4 GB at 4K Ultra HD (3840 x 2160).

The 8 GB control and the modified 4 GB to 8 GB card performed on-par with each other. The 8 GB control card produced 24.6 fps, the 4 GB to 8 GB modified card produced 24.7 fps. The 4 GB card with its original retail BIOS produced 23.3 fps. To make sure that each GPU runs at a predictable GPU frequency (usually thermal and power limit reduces clocks), we've set both fan and power target to maximum, which results in a constant frequency of 1266 MHz on both cards.
Also, to prove that the game-test (COD: Black Ops III) was able to consume more than 4 GB of video memory on the modified card, as it does on our 8 GB control card, we observed the "Memory Usage (dedicated)" graph of GPU-Z. The modified card was indeed able to address >4 GB of video memory on the card, just as it does on the 8 GB card.

In conclusion, flashing the reference 4 GB Radeon RX 480 to 8 GB works, if you're sure your card has 8 GB of memory physically present. Sadly the only way to know for sure is disassembling your card, which will definitely break some seals and void your warranty. You also need to be sure how to use ATIFlash correctly.
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110 Comments on AMD Retail Radeon RX 480 4GB to 8GB Memory Unlock Mod Works, We Benchmarked

#26
Recon-UK
I can only see this as a stunt to aid growth of sales, it's always a good trick AMD had up their sleeve through mistake previously, this cannot be by mistake as the full 8GB of Vram is on the 4GB versions.
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#27
NaXter24R
geon2k2Probably in the future they do intend to have 4GB worth of chips on the card, however for now in order to be able to sell for a lower price and not to affect the sales of the 8GB version, they did this bios trick.

I think its utterly stupid from their part ... they could just sell the 8GB variant and let people wait for the 4GB for the time when it will come.

If they never intend to make a 4GB version then this is another story.
If they wanted more money for the same card, they could have done the nvidia move and have a founders edition, which brings nothing extra but it is more expensive.
Nope, check Samsung's specs for 4gb model

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#28
xorbe
I can't even fathom that they actually did this. Now I have to eat my hat.

What about vram clock speed? Wasn't the 4GB supposed to run slower?
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#29
Recon-UK
xorbeI can't even fathom that they actually did this. Now I have to eat my hat.

What about vram clock speed? Wasn't the 4GB supposed to run slower?
Anyone tested how high the "4GB" overclocks on the memory?
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#30
dorsetknob
"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"
Recon-UKAnyone tested how high the "4GB" overclocks on the memory?
Expectations to come with a review /test
W1zzardI can't claim credit for that, there have been reportings before of the fact that the 4 GB card comes with 8 GB VRAM.
As far as I know I'm the first to have tested it, and successfully.
WE avidly WAIT :respect::respect::respect:
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#31
truth teller
so the review sample bios works on retail cards? no need to edit the bios that is shipped with the card?
nice! thx for testing! god, its starting to feel like good old mod times
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#32
W1zzard
Recon-UKAnyone tested how high the "4GB" overclocks on the memory?
To the adjustment limit of 2250 MHz, just like my 8 GB press card. It's the same memory chips rated for 2 GHz
truth tellerso the review sample bios works on retail cards? no need to edit the bios that is shipped with the card?
nice! thx for testing! god, its starting to feel like good old mod times
Yup, I didn't do any BIOS editing, just grab the BIOS off the news post. MAKE SURE TO SAVE YOUR BIOS USING ATIFLASH BEFORE FLASHING. Then flash with atiflash 2.74 from our downloads section.
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#35
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
RejZoRThis has to be the worst scamming scheme then. AMD sells you a cheaper 4GB card that you can flash to a 8GB card for free. Oooooook...
The scam is on those who pay extra for the 8Gb you silly billy.
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#36
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
the54thvoidThe scam is on those who pay extra for the 8Gb you silly billy.
It's not really a scam... AMD is likely doing this for yield sizes same reason why the voltage is cranked so high
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#37
Ungari
I can't believe anyone would complain about this.
What is wrong with these people?
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#39
-The_Mask-
the54thvoidThe scam is on those who pay extra for the 8Gb you silly billy.
It's only possible for the first ones build by AMD with only a sticker from manufacturer like Power color or XFX for example.

AMD had only one product for certification and testing, which is cheaper then having two separate production lines. When the custom versions are coming you will see real 4GB cards.
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#40
xkm1948
This will only benefit the first wave buyers. As I am sure AMD will address this later the road for 4GB card.

Anyway this does bring back lots of memories. I remember unlocking my 9500 to 9700 back in 2003, glorious days!
UngariI can't believe anyone would complain about this.
What is wrong with these people?
fanboys, need I say more? Just ignore some comments.
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#41
NaXter24R
-The_Mask-It's only possible for the first ones build by AMD with only a sticker from manufacturer like Power color or XFX for example.

AMD had only one product for certification and testing, which is cheaper then having two separate production lines. When the custom versions are coming you will see real 4GB cards.
I don't think. Search the data sheet. 7ghz for the 4gb model is 1.55v instead of 1.5. So why spending more with a second production line and increasing the power consumption?
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#43
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
xkm1948This will only benefit the first wave buyers. As I am sure AMD will address this later the road for 4GB card.

Anyway this does bring back lots of memories. I remember unlocking my 9500 to 9700 back in 2003, glorious days!



fanboys, need I say more? Just ignore some comments.
I'm not a fan boy you idiot.

Though it's amusing that people cannot see logic as it stares them in their red little faces. It's as simple as this. I buy a 8gb card for 'x' amount but the same card is sold at '<x' with bits simply hidden. People in the know can just enable the extra 4Gb and have the same card I paid extra for. It's not a scam but it's fucking lazy of AMD.

But I do love seeing how people see this as a positive (which it is if you are in the know) when people are being sold the 8Gb identical card for more money.

But, in the interests of balance, it's not anywhere near as bad as Nvidia selling a Titan at the price they go for (when they release a faster version 2 months later as a xx80ti). I can say bad things about both sides - I see a lot of people here unable to say anything bad about team red or green - that be a fanboy.

So is it fair that people have rushed out and bought an 8Gb card and paid more for it because it has 8Gb when the cheaper card is also an 8Gb card but AMD didn't tell anyone? If you think that's fair - you're a douche.
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#44
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
the54thvoidI'm not a fan boy you idiot.

Though it's amusing that people cannot see logic as it stares them in their red little faces. It's as simple as this. I buy a 8gb card for 'x' amount but the same card is sold at '<x' with bits simply hidden. People in the know can just enable the extra 4Gb and have the same card I paid extra for. It's not a scam but it's fucking lazy of AMD.

But I do love seeing how people see this as a positive (which it is if you are in the know) when people are being sold the 8Gb identical card for more money.

But, in the interests of balance, it's not anywhere near as bad as Nvidia selling a Titan at the price they go for (when they release a faster version 2 months later as a xx80ti). I can say bad things about both sides - I see a lot of people here unable to say anything bad about team red or green - that be a fanboy.

So is it fair that people have rushed out and bought an 8Gb card and paid more for it because it has 8Gb when the cheaper card is also an 8Gb card but AMD didn't tell anyone? If you think that's fair - you're a douche.
So what's your opinion on the 290/290x all the 290 is, is a 290x with pipelines masked. They can sometimes be unlocked as well. Nvidia does the same but no unlocks since the 6600/6800
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#45
RejZoR
I've had HD6950 that wasn't unlockable. Should I call AMD "scammer" because of that? Of course not. I just wasn't as lucky as some were. Same goes for R9500 that unlocked to R9700. It's just how it is.
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#46
Recon-UK
Why is my 670 not unlocking into 1070? i have 1080P monitor, i times it by the refresh rate, i use backwards and sideways math, why does this not work?
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#47
Crap Daddy
This is either a very clever marketing stunt in order to increase the 4G cards sale or a very stupid business decision to put physically 8G on a card which cannot be fully accessed and sell it for the price of a 4G card. Next we'll find out that somehow it's possible to access a Zen CPU forgotten on the PCB.
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#48
crow1001
W1zzardTo the adjustment limit of 2250 MHz, just like my 8 GB press card. It's the same memory chips rated for 2 GHz


Yup, I didn't do any BIOS editing, just grab the BIOS off the news post. MAKE SURE TO SAVE YOUR BIOS USING ATIFLASH BEFORE FLASHING. Then flash with atiflash 2.74 from our downloads section.
"SubsystemIDs mismatch" any help with this thanks.
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#49
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
Crap DaddyThis is either a very clever marketing stunt in order to increase the 4G cards sale or a very stupid business decision to put physically 8G on a card which cannot be fully accessed and sell it for the price of a 4G card. Next we'll find out that somehow it's possible to access a Zen CPU forgotten on the PCB.
Found it! :laugh:
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#50
rav
$ReaPeR$nice!! this should start the lottery..

ps. the 4 extra gigs dont make much of a difference from what i can see..
8gb video ram ONLY makes a difference if it is needed. Running DX11 gaming benchmarks do not tax a system architecture where 8 gb will offer much of performance increase over 4gb.

However as DX12 and Vulkan begin to be better utilized by game studio programmers 8 gb and up will certainly will make a difference.

VRAM is among other things a page buffer. 4k video requires 199MILLION bits for every pixel per page. So do the math. Memory bandwidth per second in the RX 480 is 320 gb/second.

Consider the bucket analogy; 8gb of memory is just using a larger bucket to fill with the SAME volume of water that 4gb vram is capable of.

More Vram provides more "pipelines" to fill that bucket but if the bottleneck is the CPU then more VRAM will make no difference.

The Media benchmarking writers just do not want to provide accurate information to the consumer. So while buying 8gb of RAM for $29 might get you a percentage point increase in performance over 4 gb, the consumer just needs to know the value of that additional performance.

So for any given percentage in performance increase what would be your willingness to part with your cash?

Would you spend $300 to gain a 2-10% increase in performance?

Would you spend $29 to gain a 5% increase in performance? 8gb VRAM certainly future proofs your GPU investment for a very small outlay in cash.
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