Thursday, January 19th 2017

Toshiba to Spin-off NAND Production; WD to be Main Beneficiary

In an AMD-like move to generate more short-term liquidity so as to strengthen its somewhat precarious position, Toshiba may be moving towards one of the most interesting shakeups in the NAND production field: a possible spin-off of its NAND production business into a separate company.

This move to restructure comes in the wake of recent snags and strategic mistakes for the company - such as the $1.2 billion dollar accounting "misstated" earnings, which created difficulties for the company to refinance itself in the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Also not negligible was a gross miscalculation on the amount of debt of the CB&I Stone and Webster company that Toshiba acquired so as to facilitate its U.S.-based Westinghouse Electric nuclear plant subsidiary investment. This "miscalculation", where Toshiba considered the "goodwill" booking charges at $87 million, where recently restated as a roughly-defined "several billion U.S. dollars."
Western Digital enters the picture because of WD's financial health, and the fact that both companies already cooperate in the joint Flash Forward NAND production business - with Toshiba being a major partner of SanDisk, before WD acquired the company for $19 billion in 2015. However, Toshiba's semiconductor operations, which includes the joint venture, accounts for nearly 80% of Toshiba's operating profit, so completely alienating the production business would have dire long-term consequences.

This is where the spin-off part of the equation comes into play, allowing Toshiba to sell a partial stake in the new company - estimated at 20% - to generate a predicted ~$2.5 billion - a "quick" liquidity shot which should allow the company to plow through its currents difficulties. And with the Flash Forward initiative being critical to WD's long-term prospects in the NAND market, WD is the most likely to invest in Toshiba's spin-off.
Source: Tom's Hardware
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15 Comments on Toshiba to Spin-off NAND Production; WD to be Main Beneficiary

#1
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Toshiba had a good drive then. Urgh.
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#2
dj-electric
The HDD tycoons are also becoming SSD tycoons.
This is why we can't have cheap NAND.
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#3
Brusfantomet
People say AMD was stupid for buying ATi, but i think Thoshiba managed to one up that with this
where Toshiba considered the "goodwill" booking charges at $87 million, where recently restated as a roughly-defined "several billion U.S. dollars."
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#4
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Toshiba is making AMD look like financial geniuses.
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#6
Mistral
BrusfantometPeople say AMD was stupid for buying ATi, but i think Thoshiba managed to one up that with this
Without playing a "what if" game, ATI's what's been keeping AMD afloat for the past few years.
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#7
Chaitanya
Dj-ElectriCThe HDD tycoons are also becoming SSD tycoons.
This is why we can't have cheap NAND.
Luckily Samsung, Intel and Micron are still in NAND game.
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#8
Brusfantomet
MistralWithout playing a "what if" game, ATI's what's been keeping AMD afloat for the past few years.
Yes, that is true, but some on the green team does not see it that way.
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#9
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
ChaitanyaLuckily Samsung, Intel and Micron are still in NAND game.
Doesn't Intel just use someone else's nand?
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#10
Slizzo
cdawallDoesn't Intel just use someone else's nand?
No, they use jointly developed Micron flash if memory serves.
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#11
swood15
SlizzoNo, they use jointly developed Micron flash if memory serves.
Your memory does indeed serve, I work for Micron R&D in Boise. 3D X-Point (Optane/QuantX) was also a Micron/Intel joint venture.
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#12
Chaitanya
cdawallDoesn't Intel just use someone else's nand?
Only controllers are outsourced these days. Intel and Micron have joined hands to compete against Samsung's dominance in SSD market. Even 3D nand is co-produced by Intel and Micron.
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#13
R-T-B
MistralWithout playing a "what if" game, ATI's what's been keeping AMD afloat for the past few years.
It's also a source of a huge portion of their debt. So it's actually sinking them.
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#14
R0H1T
BrusfantometPeople say AMD was stupid for buying ATi, but i think Thoshiba managed to one up that with this
AMD weren't stupid when they bought ATI, the 2008 market crash happened that threw multiple spanners in their plans.
Also the out of court settlement with Intel, they could've easily negotiated two times the amount they were paid had it not been for the liquidity crunch in 2007/08 & then lastly Bulldozer, though it came much later.
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#15
Brusfantomet
R0H1TAMD weren't stupid when they bought ATI, the 2008 market crash happened that threw multiple spanners in their plans.
Also the out of court settlement with Intel, they could've easily negotiated two times the amount they were paid had it not been for the liquidity crunch in 2007/08 & then lastly Bulldozer, though it came much later.
I agree with you it was a good thing they bought ATI, but some (a lot depending on where you are) still say that it was a bad move.

Think i saw a article that estimated the loss for AMD from Intels actions was in the 30 billion dollar range.
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