I have the link copied and was abound to post it here... You win! ;)
This time it seems very serious, titanium serious....

I've been in the green camp for years, yet I can hardly think of something less exciting than this.
This would be noteworthy if it would push other prices down. But it's a niche product that will be slotted between other existing ones. Again.
Still, the more, the merrier.

Wow, even Nvidia is excited about AMD's Capsaicin Livestream :roll:

It's just a faster GTX 1080. I'm totally not excited. With Vega however, so many quite radical things are announced it's hard not to be excited. We'll see how it goes, but the 1080Ti, we already know what's going to be and what it features. Yawn :P

Just not that exciting... nothing like Ryzen anyway :)

RejZoRIt's just a faster GTX 1080. I'm totally not excited. With Vega however, so many quite radical things are announced it's hard not to be excited. We'll see how it goes, but the 1080Ti, we already know what's going to be and what it features. Yawn :p

What's so radical about Vega? I know it's supposed to have HBM (which isn't new), but other than that, I know literally nothing announced about it.

Nvidia did a great job if gauging Fiji's performance with the 980 Ti, it'll be interesting to see if they have managed the same with 1080 Ti against Vega.

I would agree though this isn't that exciting, hell even the GP102 has been out for ages now in the form of the Titan XP and even that isn't the full chip.

bugWhat's so radical about Vega? I know it's supposed to have HBM (which isn't new), but other than that, I know literally nothing announced about it.

All new rasterization unit? New vertex engine? The new memory hierarchy? HBM2? Introduction of tile based rendering? A lot of cool exciting stuff that I'm interested to see how it'll work out.

If the thing was called AMD 1080ti it would be "exciting".... lol now being a nvidia product is just another flagship GPU able to run 4k 60fps, without any competitor. Nothing exciting.

/irony off

Manu_PTIf the thing was called AMD 1080ti it would be "exciting".... lol now being a nvidia product is just another flagship GPU able to run 4k 60fps, without any competitor. Nothing exciting.

/irony off

The point is the GP102 is largely a known quantity at this stage, the fact that it will likely beat the competition and months in advance is a given.

Manu_PTIf the thing was called AMD 1080ti it would be "exciting".... lol now being a nvidia product is just another flagship GPU able to run 4k 60fps, without any competitor. Nothing exciting.

/irony off

I don't care about 4K and all that nonsense. What I do care are cool technologies that anyone can benefit from, like DSR, Fast V-Sync and Adaptive V-Sync. That ANSEL thing was interesting but ultimately useless feature only interesting for few people. Bumping speed up, we have that since the beginning of graphic cards. But things like above mentioned tech, that's what's exciting. Or how new performance is achieved. Just ramping up GPU clock works, but it's boring. We're geeks here, you should understand what I mean. I love all the fancy technical new stuff that has never been seen before. And then be able to use that yourself. That's exciting.

The only interesting thing would be if they screw the Titan users and release it fully enabled...

RejZoRI don't care about 4K and all that nonsense. What I do care are cool technologies that anyone can benefit from, like DSR, Fast V-Sync and Adaptive V-Sync. That ANSEL thing was interesting but ultimately useless feature only interesting for few people. Bumping speed up, we have that since the beginning of graphic cards. But things like above mentioned tech, that's what's exciting. Or how new performance is achieved. Just ramping up GPU clock works, but it's boring. We're geeks here, you should understand what I mean. I love all the fancy technical new stuff that has never been seen before. And then be able to use that yourself. That's exciting.

Different boats here... I care about performance mostly. 4k is not non-sense to me. I play more and more on the couch on a 55 inch TV, so the bigger resolution makes a big difference to me.

Manu_PTDifferent boats here... I care about performance mostly. 4k is not non-sense to me. I play more and more on the couch on a 55 inch TV, so the bigger resolution makes a big difference to me.

DSR is also about rendering at higher resolutions and downscaling, so he's also concerned about performance even if he doesn't know it ;)

Manu_PTDifferent boats here... I care about performance mostly. 4k is not non-sense to me. I play more and more on the couch on a 55 inch TV, so the bigger resolution makes a big difference to me.

If you're interested in performance then 4 K is not the way to go. It's within reach on a practical level of having 4K, but "performance" at this level is another thing entirely, unless you're talking multiple GPU solutions.

Could or will be this another 780Ti? ;)

bugDSR is also about rendering at higher resolutions and downscaling, so he's also concerned about performance even if he doesn't know it ;)

Not if your primary function of DSR is enhancing old games that run at 500 billion FPS anyway... And where this makes the most sense. New games, you can run them at 720p and they still look good because of shadows and shading whee in old games, it all looks horrible because you can see it all directly.

RejZoRNot if your primary function of DSR is enhancing old games that run at 500 billion FPS anyway... And where this makes the most sense. New games, you can run them at 720p and they still look good because of shadows and shading whee in old games, it all looks horrible because you can see it all directly.

Cool. Then I guess I buy midrange and I care about performance, whereas you buy high-end (and overclock) and you don't. To each, their own.

Still, DSR won't enhance old games because old games tend to have the resolutions they support hard coded in. And if textures are bad, no amount of DSR will fix that. DSR simply provides an alternative to AA. Fwiw, I stopped using DSR because it messes up the icons on my desktop.

Same, but I've just made an example. Fast V-Sync is awesome because it works with any game, be it old or new. I want more of such technologies that don't require special coding and adaptation of games. Because that just never works out well.

RejZoRSame, but I've just made an example. Fast V-Sync is awesome because it works with any game, be it old or new. I want more of such technologies that don't require special coding and adaptation of games. Because that just never works out well.

Yup, I've been enjoying Adaptive V-Sync for years. It's my default setting for everything 3D.

Prima.VeraCould or will be this another 780Ti? ;)

Not impossible but very unlikely because AMD needs to at least match Titan XP's performance with Vega10 to get Nvidia releasing another 780Ti, and IF that happens with only 2 announced card (Vega10 and Vega11) they're gonna open a big gap between RX480 and Vega11 (assuming Vega11 is a cut-down Vega10 with performance around GTX1080)

So my guess is Vega10 between GTX1080 and Titan XP with Vega11 between GTX1080 and GTX1070

XiGMAKiDassuming Vega11 is a cut-down Vega10 with performance around GTX1080

Vega10 and Vega11 are two separate chips which can both produce 2+ cards.

Prima.VeraCould or will be this another 780Ti? ;)

Speaking with authority as an original Titan buyer (when we didn't know a 780 was coming out, let alone a 780ti - Remember it was Titan first, then 780, then 780ti) I think Titan owners expect their cards to be beaten by the 'ti' by now.

Speaking selfishly, I'd love the 1080ti to match Titan Xp cores but have the higher power draw and clock speeds.

the54thvoidSpeaking with authority as an original Titan buyer (when we didn't know a 780 was coming out, let alone a 780ti - Remember it was Titan first, then 780, then 780ti) I think Titan owners expect their cards to be beaten by the 'ti' by now.

Speaking selfishly, I'd love the 1080ti to match Titan Xp cores but have the higher power draw and clock speeds.

EDIT: Whoops I forgot the GTX 1080ti aftermarkets scaled way better than Titan X, MB. If they give it better voltage control/more voltage it will then we will have to see how close it comes. I think though it would be a big middle finger at this point (Especially seeing how they price and place the Titans now) if it came with the same or more cores enabled because I would bring back to the argument of whats the point of Titans anymore (Just early access for more cost?). Though personally it would not bother me much since I am still happy with my card since I bought it pretty much because of BF1 and I have gotten plenty of miles out of that :p.

I am excited to see what this card can do!

GhostRyderEh, well when it comes to the GTX 980ti it was beaten by the Titan X (Maxwell) so I am not sure if I would say I am expecting it to beat the Titan XP.

You are probably talking about the reference card, but most (if no tall) AIB 980Ti's beat the Titan X with a quite a big margin.