Well IF independent test deliver then I guess 1 million units are enough to absorb the spike in early demands

1 million units, with the info and prices they've provided, it doesn't sound like a difficult sale to achieve on a global level.

RejZoR1 million units, with the info and prices they've provided, it doesn't sound like a difficult sale to achieve on a global level.

Dunno: they may have under-estimated their own hype ...

AMD fans who had FX8350 now have excellent opportunity for upgrade.
And people who love AMD but change on i7 because last 3 years with AMD was really hard to achieve some good performance with high end graphic cards and Intel was only option. Now they could back on their lovely AMD.

Somehow I like to see Intel socket. No matter on sensitive pins and everything else I love him.
But performance are performnace, CINEBENCH, Geekbench, etc... will decide after launch of Intel X299.

Most interesting will be 1700 and 1700X if they could offer same speed as premium customers save 150$ in start.
I wait 1900X BE. I would not be surprise to see AMD 10 cores soon. He will eat i7-6950X for breakfast, because now it's not fair to consider i7-6950X in comparison table.
I think Intel knew about Ryzen performance when they launch Broadwell-E. With higher price they plan to compensate loss later.
700$ per sample and they earn few millions extra easy.
But now i7-6900K look bad and for 500$. Because owner is loser. :)
And if that's not important in mid class, when we talk about Intel Xtreme and higher price such things are important.
Owners of Intel Xtreme didn't used to be slower than AMD.

RejZoR1 million units, with the info and prices they've provided, it doesn't sound like a difficult sale to achieve on a global level.

this isnt about sales, but how much is manufactured, packaged, & available to ship to stores or customers

it doesnt matter if 1million or 50million people ordered if the physical stock capacity is 1million

Feb 28th or March 2nd? Ryzen 7 1800X review. I developed a habit of visiting for these news religiously. lol jk

kn00tcnthis isnt about sales, but how much is manufactured, packaged, & available to ship to stores or customers

it doesnt matter if 1million or 50million people ordered if the physical stock capacity is 1million

Not so: if the supply doesn't meet demand, prices may climb due to lack of availability, and that is definitely NOT good for us consumers.

HTCNot so: if the supply doesn't meet demand, prices may climb due to lack of availability, and that is definitely NOT good for us consumers.

obviously, but i'm replying to the user that thought the topic is about sales or customer demand

edit: didnt the 480 have shortages? but i'm not sure if inventory numbers were given

kn00tcnobviously, but i'm replying to the user that thought the topic is about sales or customer demand

edit: didnt the 480 have shortages? but i'm not sure if inventory numbers were given

I see.

The 480 did have shortages but there's a HUGE difference between a shortage that's fixeable short term (like the 480, since the supply VS demand ratio didn't seem that large, because you can easily find them everywhere now) and a shortage that may not be fixable even in a years time.

Dunno the production capacity of AMD's manufacturers but if the demand is really high, i seriously doubt AMD will be able to have them, meaning a rise in prices may be inevitable, which is good for AMD but bad for everyone else.

HTCI see.

The 480 did have shortages but there's a HUGE difference between a shortage that's fixeable short term (like the 480, since the supply VS demand ratio didn't seem that large, because you can easily find them everywhere now) and a shortage that may not be fixable even in a years time.

Dunno the production capacity of AMD's manufacturers but if the demand is really high, i seriously doubt AMD will be able to have them, meaning a rise in prices may be inevitable, which is good for AMD but bad for everyone else.

heh, urge to say 'obviously' again

why would the 480 demand be sustained for over half a year? even if the supply was identical or even reduced, the demand will reduce even more, like pretty much every product... those who want it eventually get it or got it during launch period, the rest wait for sale

i wouldnt actually expect any first run to be peak supply, it takes time to create a smooth operation, not to mention the chance of better yields, then the demand cant be sustained either since intel is plenty performance

HTCI see.

The 480 did have shortages but there's a HUGE difference between a shortage that's fixeable short term (like the 480, since the supply VS demand ratio didn't seem that large, because you can easily find them everywhere now) and a shortage that may not be fixable even in a years time.

Dunno the production capacity of AMD's manufacturers but if the demand is really high, i seriously doubt AMD will be able to have them, meaning a rise in prices may be inevitable, which is good for AMD but bad for everyone else.

Well if this is the case, I'm going to bulk order 10. Use 1 for myself and sell the other 9 on eBay to make a fortune when supply shortage starts. XD

hope they can keep it up with the upcoming SKUs, a four core 3+ghz and a APU that can game might look real good to the OEMs. Could cost retail volume as AMD hasn't had to deal with real demand for awhile. Can't wait to see the APU benches.

R7 1800X units are sold out, so definitely a very good sign of things to come...great job to AMD from getting back into the CPU race with a 'hopefully' outstanding product! We'll know for sure on Thursday...

On a separate note, is it early enough to use R3 or R5 Ryzen in the XBOX Scorpion? ;-)

Iluv2raceitR7 1800X units are sold out,

They are? And you know this................... how?

HTCI see.

The 480 did have shortages but there's a HUGE difference between a shortage that's fixeable short term (like the 480, since the supply VS demand ratio didn't seem that large, because you can easily find them everywhere now) and a shortage that may not be fixable even in a years time.

Dunno the production capacity of AMD's manufacturers but if the demand is really high, i seriously doubt AMD will be able to have them, meaning a rise in prices may be inevitable, which is good for AMD but bad for everyone else.

You think they don't know Ryzen's performance abilities for at least 3-4 months now? Only thing to be decided for them was the price and the amount of chips to order. When they decided the price, the demand was already known and so, the orders were accordinate too. No way that they won't cover the demand or very close to that imo. 1st time I see 81 motherboard models on sale in 1st day of launch of a CPU. They seem to be very well prepared for this.

EarthDogThey are? And you know this................... how?

I think he meant pre-order units. Which is true at most retailers as of the past day or so I think.

Whether that's true or not for retail units... I don't know.

HD64GYou think they don't know Ryzen's performance abilities for at least 3-4 months now? Only thing to be decided for them was the price and the amount of chips to order. When they decided the price, the demand was already known and so, the orders were accordinate too. No way that they won't cover the demand or very close to that imo. 1st time I see 81 motherboard models on sale in 1st day of launch of a CPU. They seem to be very well prepared for this.

They look like some nice mobos too....

Vlada011AMD fans who had FX8350 now have excellent opportunity for upgrade.
And people who love AMD but change on i7 because last 3 years with AMD was really hard to achieve some good performance with high end graphic cards and Intel was only option. Now they could back on their lovely AMD.

Somehow I like to see Intel socket. No matter on sensitive pins and everything else I love him.
But performance are performnace, CINEBENCH, Geekbench, etc... will decide after launch of Intel X299.

Most interesting will be 1700 and 1700X if they could offer same speed as premium customers save 150$ in start.
I wait 1900X BE. I would not be surprise to see AMD 10 cores soon. He will eat i7-6950X for breakfast, because now it's not fair to consider i7-6950X in comparison table.
I think Intel knew about Ryzen performance when they launch Broadwell-E. With higher price they plan to compensate loss later.
700$ per sample and they earn few millions extra easy.
But now i7-6900K look bad and for 500$. Because owner is loser. :)
And if that's not important in mid class, when we talk about Intel Xtreme and higher price such things are important.
Owners of Intel Xtreme didn't used to be slower than AMD.

Seems funny how in like 3 days your opinions on Ryzen change.

typo

Tne question on everyone's minds is whether there will be enough units to reach their friendly neighborhood PC hardware stores. According to Taiwan-based industry observer DigiTimes, AMD is planning a healthy inventory of Ryzen chips.

Tne = The

Maybe I could mod Mac G5 for Ryzen or to wait Skylake Xtreme.
Anyway I will wait Skylake Xtreme launch and than to decide.
I plan everything but now when Ryzen look so good...I don't know.
Case will stay in Silver color, memory Dominator Special Edition Chrome, board some ROG similar colors as Crosshair 6 Hero.
Maybe mATX, maybe ATX, maybe E-ATX.
Crosshair 6 Hero is cool for silver RIG.
I never liked combination of AMD CPU and NVIDIA GPU.
Or Intel NVIDIA or full AMD, I don't know why.

Vlada011AMD fans who had FX8350 now have excellent opportunity for upgrade.
And people who love AMD but change on i7 because last 3 years with AMD was really hard to achieve some good performance with high end graphic cards and Intel was only option. Now they could back on their lovely AMD.

Somehow I like to see Intel socket. No matter on sensitive pins and everything else I love him.
But performance are performnace, CINEBENCH, Geekbench, etc... will decide after launch of Intel X299.

Most interesting will be 1700 and 1700X if they could offer same speed as premium customers save 150$ in start.
I wait 1900X BE. I would not be surprise to see AMD 10 cores soon. He will eat i7-6950X for breakfast, because now it's not fair to consider i7-6950X in comparison table.
I think Intel knew about Ryzen performance when they launch Broadwell-E. With higher price they plan to compensate loss later.
700$ per sample and they earn few millions extra easy.
But now i7-6900K look bad and for 500$. Because owner is loser. :)
And if that's not important in mid class, when we talk about Intel Xtreme and higher price such things are important.
Owners of Intel Xtreme didn't used to be slower than AMD.

only the last 3 year ? ... come on .. its been well longer then that.

I am A huge fan of Value . My cpu before my 4790k was A FX 8150 ... I got it on release. And I can say it was behind my friends my friends i5 2500k .. and man with in A year .. intel had crushed it. AMD had been behind well over 6 years now.

And to think I have one of those million moohahaha!

Sorry the excitement get the best of me.. I pray I win the silicon lotto in the 1800x series

fullinfusionAnd to think I have one of those million moohahaha!

Sorry the excitement get the best of me.. I pray I win the silicon lotto in the 1800x series

Great cooling, my friend. Great cooling will make XFR shine... :cool:

1c3d0gGreat cooling, my friend. Great cooling will make XFR shine... :cool:

Oh I've got the cooling except my EK block is for the other guys CPU.

So just waiting a few more days to see what comes out to finalize my choice.

Otherwise I'll be good to go.... just need to pray to the old man winter for a few nights of -40 for some benching sessions to actually see how well XFR reacts.

got the gear pre-ordered... not super impressed with the performance of the z170 and 6700k - something really weird and glitchy with the way USB3.0 and PCI-e/M2 devices play on my board... at least i think that is what tht is - it causes the rig to bomb along at 100+FPS but then freeze for a split second every now and then. Does it in windows too - randomly the mouse cursor will stop moving and the system will hitch.

its definitely a mobo/device issue as none of my other rigs do that even when under heavy load. Hoping the Ryzen is a smoother experience. Might be the 1080 - not sure. Either way hope shipments go smoothly - seems like alot of demand for these.