Monday, March 13th 2017
Vega Shows Up Beating a GTX 1080 in CompuBench, But Hold the Hypetrain
The Vega based line of AMD GPUs are definitely a big unknown at this point, so any sightings or benchmarks of it are highly sought after by the rumormill. Well, here is another one to add to your pile of rumor-material folks: AMD has posted a card benchmark to Compubench that bests even the GTX 1080.
Why hold the hype?
There are two obvious issues. One, this is a compute only benchmark, and has little relevance to the average gamer. Two, in the same benchmark, a 980TI also beats the 1080. Stranger yet, the 1080 is also beaten by its little brother, the 1070. Take this one with a grain of salt, for the obvious reasons. It won't stop the the hypetrain from using this info to its own end, but maybe you can avoid being smashed by it by using some critical thinking.
PS: If you don't like me telling you how to think, please note this was properly marked as an editorial. You may board the train of your choosing at the next exit. Good luck on reaching your destination.
Source:
HotHardware
Why hold the hype?
There are two obvious issues. One, this is a compute only benchmark, and has little relevance to the average gamer. Two, in the same benchmark, a 980TI also beats the 1080. Stranger yet, the 1080 is also beaten by its little brother, the 1070. Take this one with a grain of salt, for the obvious reasons. It won't stop the the hypetrain from using this info to its own end, but maybe you can avoid being smashed by it by using some critical thinking.
63 Comments on Vega Shows Up Beating a GTX 1080 in CompuBench, But Hold the Hypetrain
I was sitting at a bench at the train station for Ryzen and never got off of it. Just watched it go by. Vega? I already know it's going to be mid-high end!
1080ti = beast..Don't see Vega coming close
Intel worried about Ryzen = them blowing 15 billion on a new company
Vega and GTX 1080 seem to be pretty well matched. Only idea I have why Titan and 1080 Ti are faster is memory related (8 GiB versus 11-12 GiB). Vega presumably has 8 or 16 GiB. If the former, it all makes sense. If the latter...
llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project/cfe/trunk/lib/Basic/Targets.cpp?revision=297659&view=markup
could be the cut Vega where GFX901 is the full Vega, I still am thinking its only going to be a bit faster than a 1070 though.
Don't get me wrong, this leak is far from gospel; but it is a thing. The Vega 10 card underclocked by 30% beat the 1080 and came within 10 - 40% of the 1080 Ti.
Nzealots will shut down into full denial mode when they realize Vega is as fast as the new Milk Ti (or faster).
so far - AMD has not "crushed my dreams", "lied to the kids, AGAIN", "the hypetrain has railed off" or whatever metaphors internet tries to use these days - AMD did deliver a CPU in price of 329$, that is on par with 1000$ intel - in CPU relevant tasks (except if you care about 1080 @144+ gaming - then the 1000$ CPU is not the smartest choice anyway)
1070 and 1080 both have 8 GiB which kind of confirms the theory about memory being the key factor.
The 980 Ti is the anomaly at only 6 GiB of RAM.
This benchmark is completely off the wall though, and when someone passed it to me to try to show superiority of Vega, I almost had to make an article to counter it. It's pretty amazingly bad to use this as "proof" of anything in the gaming realm.
Edit: Both cards are 1/32 where Vega is 1/16.
www.anandtech.com/show/9306/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review
techreport.com/news/30174/rumor-a-gp102-geforce-titan-and-gtx-1080-ti-are-in-the-works
I've tried and I have no explaination for 980 Ti being where it is.
It can NOT not wipe the floor with it.Hello hater.
Ryzen was HOPED to reach Haswell IPC, it actually reached Broadwell.
So, why would you suggest something opposing the site's long tradition of novidia loving?
I told you before, on some pr thing you usually have here as an article, that the last year you had almost ZERO inside info on anything. You have been reduced to posting pr about keyboards and fans.
I personally don't have the sources I used to have, due to being in a different workplace, but a little bird told me to expect big changes with vega.
My former colleagues already had details about zen 1 year ago, since we used to have intel amd dell and very often altera representatives there.
It's nice to see you guys going full damage contol with almost every amd product. Keep up the laughter.
Recently 687F:C3 appeared on SiSoftware Sandra 2015 and it beats the the gtx1080 by 35% in this particular benchmark.
ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffcdf4d2b3d2efdbe9dcebdaebcdbf82b294f194a999bfccf1c9&l=en
You can't pretend that there was a significant number of ppl who returned their product for whatever reason, which happens in every product, but you can pretend it.
I guess promising 40% ipc over bd and delivering 50%+ or benching it against a 6900k and beating it before release and after release, also delivering a more power efficient chip in a less mature 14nm node is NOT delivering by the "hype". All that with the price of 6900 cut in half? What did you expect a spacestation or a z13 chip?
Trolls at wccftech are smarter than you... Well some are pretty dumb but make more accurate points than you.