Monday, July 10th 2017

Intel Pentium G4560 Cannibalizing Core i3 Sales, Company Effectively Kills it

Intel Pentium G4560 dual-core socket LGA1151 processor is too good for Intel's comfort. For the past two generations, Intel has enabled HyperThreading on Pentium dual-core chips, and expanded L3 cache amount from 2 MB to 3 MB; which had been the two key differentiators for the company's Core i3 desktop lineup from Pentium. HyperThreading was warranted by an increasing number of games and applications which wouldn't work without at least 4 logical CPUs. The G4560 is a formidable part at its USD $64 price - 2 cores, 4 threads, the latest "Kaby Lake" micro-architecture, 3 MB L3 cache, and 3.50 GHz clock speeds. On the flip side, it makes buying Core i3 dual-core parts close to double its price a dumb option. Intel's solution? Effectively kill it.

According to a DigiWorthy report, Intel has decided to scale down production of the Pentium G4560 in a bid to cripple its availability, and force consumers to opt for pricier 7th generation Core i3 parts. The cheapest part, the Core i3-7100, is priced almost double that of the G4560, at $117. You get the same two "Kaby Lake" cores, 4 threads enabled by HyperThreading, the same 3 MB L3 cache, but slightly higher clock speeds of 3.90 GHz, and a faster integrated graphics core, if you use one. Does the extra 400 MHz warrant double the price? Not even in the case of Intel's priciest Core i7 SKUs. All prices are Intel's "recommended customer price" for 1000-unit tray quantities.
Source: DigiWorthy
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80 Comments on Intel Pentium G4560 Cannibalizing Core i3 Sales, Company Effectively Kills it

#26
dj-electric
john_The G4560 is probably the best VFM low cost processor from either AMD or Intel in the last decade(if not from the beginning of computers). It totally destroyed anything new or used under 100 dollars and made many models costing double look really bad choices.
Its incredible, but lets not get carried. I5 3570Ks are being sold at 50-70$ on Ebay
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#27
dont whant to set it"'
different platform tought.
le: as I on on two ddr4 platform even consider a ddr3 one unless almost free
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#28
TheinsanegamerN
So rather than making the pentiums as powerful as i3s, making the i3s quad core, making the i5 the new i7, making the i7 a hex core, ece to compete with AMD, they simply kill off a high selling chip and attempt to force people onto more expensive models.

Is intel really that short sighted?
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#29
trparky
TheinsanegamerNIs intel really that short sighted?
YES!

I'm surprised you had to ask yourself that question.
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#30
Supercrit
TheinsanegamerNSo rather than making the pentiums as powerful as i3s, making the i3s quad core, making the i5 the new i7, making the i7 a hex core, ece to compete with AMD, they simply kill off a high selling chip and attempt to force people onto more expensive models.

Is intel really that short sighted?
But muh margins
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#31
silentbogo
What makes matters worse, is that the actual reason i3-7xxx is not selling well, is because many retailers are still trying to get rid of i3-6xxx series, and they are dumping those at slightly lower prices comparing to Kaby Lake counterparts.
Locally I can get a brand new i3-6100 only for $10 more than G4620 just for the sake of having that precious "i3" in my device manager. Add a slightly cheaper 100-series motherboard, and you already have a good enough financial reason to buy a new Skylake, rather than Kaby Lake system.

So much for accelerating tick-click-poop-tock cycle.
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#32
trparky
silentbogoSo much for accelerating tick-click-poop-tock cycle.
Thanks for the laugh there.
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#33
Basard
dwadeMost people don't even consider Ryzen. How can it help AMD?
Ya... most people don't consider AMD, they should just roll over and die.... (sarcasm)
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#34
john_
Dj-ElectriCIts incredible, but lets not get carried. I5 3570Ks are being sold at 50-70$ on Ebay
I was talking about new. If we consider second hand options, the majority of new hardware in the market are ridiculously expensive.
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#35
Prince Valiant
Dj-ElectriCIts incredible, but lets not get carried. I5 3570Ks are being sold at 50-70$ on Ebay
Getting a decent motherboard might be a bit of an issue there.
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#36
GorbazTheDragon
Intel really needs to cut this BS, AMD better get their single CCX Ryzens out fast!
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#37
GAR
Whos running things at intel right now? AMD really needs to capitalize
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#38
Dave65
FAKE NEWS, Intel can do no wrong... TRUST ME!
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#39
hojnikb
RejZoRI hope people go for Ryzen then. AMD should use this to gain momentum with Ryzen R3's. With 4 real cores and clock speeds around 3,7GHz, they will be a formidable foe against crippled hyperthreaded dual cores from Intel...
Except ryzen r3 won't be 64$ and also won't have iGPU. So a completely different market.

I'll take cutdown ryzen apus to get to pentium price levels.
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#40
Dippyskoodlez
RejZoRI hope people go for Ryzen then. AMD should use this to gain momentum with Ryzen R3's. With 4 real cores and clock speeds around 3,7GHz, they will be a formidable foe against crippled hyperthreaded dual cores from Intel...
as someone that recently picked up a 4560, amd is pretty late to the party. can’t buy what isn’t on the market..
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#41
Rehmanpa
Ryzen is looking better and better. I'm so sick of having to keep buying intel, finally competition will lead to (Or in ryzens case has led to) innovation for the consumer.
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#42
yogurt_21
This is great, since when did Pentium grade warrant hyper threading? So the games required it sure, doesn't mean you needed to provide on your entry level line-up. Just throw a line in there of "not recommended for modern games" and be done with it.

They effectively nerfed their own line-up by out competing themselves. Intel sales guy sitting there like "We keep losing sales to this G4560 cpu our competitors are selling for half the price that performs just as well as our i3...hold a tick...that's our CPU!"

What next? Nvidia ups the specs on the 1030 to match those on the 1050 and wonders why 1050 sales are bad?
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#43
RejZoR
If Intel wasn't lazy and greedy, they wouldn't have this problem in the first place if Core i3's were proper quad cores already. I mean, it's 2017, not 2005. Dual cores shouldn't even exist anymore apart from being dual cores with HT in Pentium range. Pentium is eating the Core i3 market because Core i3 is such crap, not because Pentium is that good.
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#44
CraZyNoMaD
Ryzen 3 release and bam g4560 dont buy customers.
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#45
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
To be fair most of those chips are going to miners not gamers looking for something cheaper than an i3
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#46
Honestbob456
As a i7 6700K user who bought mine for $239, I hope Ryzen 3 cannibalizes their i3 sales too lmao, they can't stop that production then can they?

Honestly, quad cores should be the new entry level where Pentiums are quads i3's are quads with HT, i5's are Hexa-Cores with NO HT, and i7's being Hexa-Cores WITH HT, hopefully coffee lake implements something similar to this for their future mainstream socket.

We're in 2017-2018, they keep adding cores to their HEDT platform, it's time to add more cores to mainstream parts, and it's time to start working harder on IPC gains and stop riding on sandy bridge.

As for AMD, amazing job from the red revolution, infinity fabric will really shape their future and they are offering insane value as compared to intel right now, I am glad intel cant do what they did in the past to deliberately create a monopoly, fair competition is what the consumer needs.
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#47
GoldenX
Thanks Intel, we never can have nice things.

Ryzen 3 is going to cost more than the Pentium, you have to look at possible dual core (or tri core maybe?) APUs for that price range.
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#48
ironcerealbox
Dj-ElectriCIts incredible, but lets not get carried. I5 3570Ks are being sold at 50-70$ on Ebay
Yes, let us not get carried away...I don't know where you are getting $50 to $70 on EBay. Try more like $99 to $140. I know the i5-3570 non-K SKU is going for $70. If you are going to say something in a matter-of-fact sort-of-way, then get facts straight.
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#50
Prima.Vera
nickbaldwin86I figure this isn't really the point of the article but still how many people here are buying these procs for more than a HTPC or maybe a budget kids gaming PC? i don't think $117 is going to break the bank or maybe you should start thinking about how you spend you money a little closer.
For that money you can buy a Ryzen for almost double the performance ;)
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