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Allegedly Could Limit Production ≠ Effectively Kills it

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Last May , we underlined the excellent performance of the Pentium G4650, which clearly put the existence of the Core i3 range. For some time now, we have noticed that it was often unavailable at dealers, in France as well as on the Rhine.

We learn today that the supply on this reference should be difficult throughout the summer! Intel would have anticipated badly the request on this reference? Or is it an organized shortage in order to restore some appeal to the Core i3? Impossible to say ...

hojnikbExcept ryzen r3 won't be 64$ and also won't have iGPU. So a completely different market.

I'll take cutdown ryzen apus to get to pentium price levels.

Manu_PTIm sure Ryzen 3 can kill both this and i3 anyway. And ryzen Apu might be the new budget king

silentbogoIt gets even better. Here's DigiWorthy's source

www.hardware.fr/news/15185/penurie-pentium-g4560.html

My french is a bit rusty, but thanks to my best friend Google Translate, I can give you a rough translation of an entire news piece, which became a basis for this madness...


That is it. So, it went from "It is hard to get a G4560 in France throughout the summer" to "Intel is killing Pentium G-lineup" in a matter of 2 reposts.... cause ya know "yada-yada, grain of salt...."

BTW, last night my local store still had G4560, G4600 and G4620. Today (after all of Russian and Ukrainian websites re-wrote this same article in a matter of hours, with some pessimistic personal input), people started buying these CPUs like crazy.
As of this morning that same store now only has G4620 and i3-6100 (both already marked "in short supply").
@btarunr , you've caused a global pentium G shortage! :nutkick:

cdawallTo be fair most of those chips are going to miners not gamers looking for something cheaper than an i3

9700 ProI play even new games on my G4560 and I don't fool around with toy money. :)

TheGuruStudOOS at newegg, 83 at Amazon. There's plenty of the other models, but it does look like 4560 is pretty gone. Microcenter doesn't even carry it (I find that odd) nor can I find it at Frys. I'd say it's already dead.

edited...Amazon has terrible titles

TheGuruStudI have no idea how. At 4.4 GHz I'm at 80% usage on my multiplayer stuff (locked at only 60 fps too).

silentbogoI see all three in-stock @ newegg US storefront: G4600, G4560, G4620
www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007671 600565702 600005583

... that price, though

9700 ProI play even new games on my G4560 and I don't fool around with toy money. :)

RejZoRIf Intel wasn't lazy and greedy, they wouldn't have this problem in the first place if Core i3's were proper quad cores already. I mean, it's 2017, not 2005. Dual cores shouldn't even exist anymore apart from being dual cores with HT in Pentium range. Pentium is eating the Core i3 market because Core i3 is such crap, not because Pentium is that good.

cdawallI believe English is your native language which means the word "most" would mean some do not.

yogurt_21you do realize that their mobile lines ups have "i7s" that are hyper-threaded dual cores right? These names mean nothing more than price point these days. And at the pentium price point, HT shouldn't be allowed.

We deemed Intel's Pentium G4560 as a great budget CPU for gaming when we reviewed the processor earlier this year. While not a powerhouse chip, we found that it offered up reasonable performance at an equally reasonable price tag, which at the time was just $65. Fast forward to today and the same chip is selling online for around $80. What gives? Nothing shady, according to Intel.

There is a rumor going around that Intel is intentionally limiting supply of this fan favorite CPU because it is cannibalizing sales of its Core i3 family. The rumor has its roots in a French-language report at Hardware.fl. The article does not come right out and accuse Intel of this, at least not from what we can discern from a Google translation. Instead, the site says it learned that supply will be "difficult" throughout the summer, but doesn't say why.

The article goes on to suggest that an "organized shortage" on Intel's part could be the reason, but also notes that whether or not that is the case is "impossible to say." Nevertheless, several sites have since reported that Intel might be killing off its budget CPU.

It at least seemed like an interesting theory. Indeed, the price of the Pentium G4560 has been hovering right around $60 at Amazon since last April. A look at its product page now shows that Amazon is no longer selling the processor directly, though it is fulfilling orders for several third-party sellers, including Nspire Store, which is selling the chip for $83 with free shipping via Prime.

Newegg is not selling any Pentium G4560 CPUs on its own, either. The sole listing has it priced at $108 through OutletPC.com, well above its MSRP. Over at B&H Photo, the Pentium G4560 is listed as a "#1 Seller" and is being sold direct to consumers, but at $79. That is still around $15 to $20 more than it should be.

Intel did not have a great explanation for the recent price hike, telling us that what we're observing on websites is "possibly part of a normal demand fluctuation." Regardless of why it is happening, Intel confirmed to us that "there is no change to the Intel Pentium products. We continue to offer the Intel Pentium SKU [G4560]."

The Pentium G4560 has appeal to builders because it offers decent specs for the price. It is based on Intel's 14-nanometer Kaby Lake architecture and features two physical cores clocked at 3.5GHz. There is no Turbo clock, but it is the first Pentium series processor in recent times to support Hyper Threading. It also has 3MB of L3 cache, integrated HD Graphics 610 clocked at 350MHz to 1,050MHz, and a low 54W TDP.

It is conceivable that the Pentium G4560 is chewing into sales of Intel's Core i3-7100, another dual-core Kaby Lake processor with Hyper Threading that is clocked higher at 3.9GHz and also has 3MB of L3 cache. However, compared to the original price of the Pentium G4560, the Core i3-7100 costs nearly twice as much at $117. That is a steep premium to pay for just a 400MHz bump, slightly lower TDP (51W TDP), and a small upgrade in integrated graphics (HD Graphics 630 clocked at 350MHz to 1,100MHz).

There's also another potential influencer of the G4560 pricing right now: cryptocurrency mining. It's one of the least expensive Kaby Lake processors around, it still has 2-cores/4-threads, and it works with motherboards that can run up to six GPUs. With the ongoing shortage of AMD's RX 570/580 cards, miners still have to use some sort of CPU to run athever graphics cards they've gotten their hands on, and the G4560 is arguably the best value for mining rigs. The cryptocurrency scene appears to be settling down again, so demand from this sector should be drying up.

If you are interested in the Pentium G4560, with the current prices you might consider picking up the Pentium G4600 or G4620 as an alternative. They're not substantially faster, only 100-200MHz, but depending on prices they may be a better value. If you're still after a G4560, you might want to pick one up before the price jumps even further. At around $80, there is still a compelling argument to be made for grabbing it over the Core i3-7100, though it becomes tougher to justify as the price rises.

yogurt_21you do realize that their mobile lines ups have "i7s" that are hyper-threaded dual cores right? These names mean nothing more than price point these days. And at the pentium price point, HT shouldn't be allowed.

yogurt_21you do realize that their mobile lines ups have "i7s" that are hyper-threaded dual cores right? These names mean nothing more than price point these days. And at the pentium price point, HT shouldn't be allowed.

cdawallI believe English is your native language which means the word "most" would mean some do not.

TheGuruStudI have no idea how. At 4.4 GHz I'm at 80% usage on my multiplayer stuff (locked at only 60 fps too).

jabbadapProbably not, as a fellow Finn he most probably speak Finnish or more unlikely Swedish as native language. But yeah I agree on your opinion though, most of them are likely going to miners.

R0H1TSay what? Oh right you must be an Intel shareholder, as a consumer that post makes zero sense to me :rolleyes:

yogurt_21then you're a crappy consumer who wants everything for free. My guess is your entire software library is pirated.


you don't get a turbo on an entry level motor and you don't get features like HT on entry level cpus.

Its called entry level for a reason.

R0H1TA crappy consumer for wanting HT on a pentium? My guess is you;ve had too much of Intel, stocks &/or hardware, over the years.

Yes because engine turbo can be switched off, by laser or whatever Intel uses to turn i3 into a Pentium or celeron?

Entry level isn;t defined by some random features, you feel are rightfully knocked off from a Pentium or Celeron.