Tuesday, July 18th 2017

Liquid-cooled AMD Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition Power Draw Tested

The liquid-cooled variant of AMD Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition has some very lofty power requirements. Although it draws power from a pair of 8-pin PCIe power connectors, which along with the PCI-Express slot total a power output of 375W, the card was tested by PC Perspective, to be overdrawing power from the power connectors, with a peak power draw of a staggering 440W, with its power limit raised by 25% to stabilize a 7% overclock. At its stock clock speeds, however, the card remains well under the 375W limit, drawing around 350W of power.

The liquid-cooled Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition has its TDP rated at 375W, compared to 300W of the air-cooled variant. Given its performance being somewhere between the GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti, these figures don't bode particularly well for the upcoming Radeon RX Vega family of consumer graphics cards, unless AMD pulls a rabbit out of its hat with pricing. The RX Vega series is expected to be announced on July 27.
Source: PC Perspective
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59 Comments on Liquid-cooled AMD Radeon Pro Vega Frontier Edition Power Draw Tested

#1
yotano211
this card doesnt overclock very well and loves power
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#2
Alduin
Amd has failed again in terms of efficiency
Where is that 4x efficiency over polaris architecture
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#3
XiGMAKiD
Maybe an undervolt could help lower the power consumption and temp just like previous gen from AMD
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#4
chaosmassive
so... this is RX 480 6-pin fiasco all over again ?
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#5
Sakkun
I honestly don't think this bodes too well for RTG.
I personally had high hopes for Vega.
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#6
Nosada
AlduinAmd has failed again in terms of efficiency
Where is that 4x efficiency over polaris architecture
It could still happen. Vega would just have to supply a mere 58 TFlops, and they'd achieve that goal >.>
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#7
Rehmanpa
Imagine the gtx 1080 is actually a gtx 780. Now imagine the gtx 1080 ti is the 780 ti. Then imagine that rx vega is the r9 290x. This is history repeating itself all over again.

Not to mention as history is yet again repeating itself a new gpu generation is right around the corner (volta with the gtx 2080 or whatever it's called) and in the past it was Maxwell with the gtx 980.
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#8
ZoneDymo
RehmanpaImagine the gtx 1080 is actually a gtx 780. Now imagine the gtx 1080 ti is the 780 ti. Then imagine that rx vega is the r9 290x. This is history repeating itself all over again.

Not to mention as history is yet again repeating itself a new gpu generation is right around the corner (volta with the gtx 2080 or whatever it's called) and in the past it was Maxwell with the gtx 980.
that would be GTX1180
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#9
nguyen
RehmanpaImagine the gtx 1080 is actually a gtx 780. Now imagine the gtx 1080 ti is the 780 ti. Then imagine that rx vega is the r9 290x. This is history repeating itself all over again.

Not to mention as history is yet again repeating itself a new gpu generation is right around the corner (volta with the gtx 2080 or whatever it's called) and in the past it was Maxwell with the gtx 980.
Yeah i chose the r9 290x (replaced the stock cooler with artic cooler accelero 3) at that time because the 780 is overpriced as hell and just a buffed up gtx 680 but the situation is different now. Right now AMD has only reach Maxwell's level of efficiency and Nvidia is readying Volta architecture, imagine GTX 1170 that could be released anytime Nvidia felt like it, perform at 1080ti performance while chewing 1/3 the power of VEGA RX, selling for 450usd a pop. By then AMD has to lower the price even further I think they could be losing money making video cards.
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#10
dwade
yotano211this card doesnt overclock very well and loves power
Sounds like all AMD products. None of them are 'overclocker's dream.'
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#11
ZoneDymo
nguyenYeah i chose the r9 290x (replaced the stock cooler with artic cooler accelero 3) at that time because the 780 is overpriced as hell and just a buffed up gtx 680 but the situation is different now. Right now AMD has only reach Maxwell's level of efficiency and Nvidia is readying Volta architecture, imagine GTX 1170 that could be released anytime Nvidia felt like it, perform at 1080ti performance while chewing 1/3 the power of VEGA RX, selling for 450usd a pop. By then AMD has to lower the price even further I think they could be losing money making video cards.
Im not sure who in their right mind would still buy anything Nvidia if they would release a GTX1170 within the next 3 months that beats a GTX1080Ti....
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#12
JalleR
Now we know why they are splitting up AMD and RTG....

that is just a crazy power Draw...
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#13
bug
JalleRNow we know why they are splitting up AMD and RTG....

that is just a crazy power Draw...
Tbh, the graphics division carried AMD through their Bulldozer days. That's why you have different groups within a company: to support each other when things get tough.
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#14
XiGMAKiD
bugTbh, the graphics division carried AMD through their Bulldozer days. That's why you have different groups within a company: to support each other when things get tough.
And now looks like it's gonna be the other way around
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#15
nguyen
ZoneDymoIm not sure who in their right mind would still buy anything Nvidia if they would release a GTX1170 within the next 3 months that beats a GTX1080Ti....
I'm not sure if you are joking ? hello GTX 970, GTX 1070. So you would prefer to be loyal to company that sell you recycled products over and over with tiny improvements ? Luckily 72.5% of GPU buyers don't agree with you or the world is drowing in idiocy
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#16
ZoneDymo
nguyenI'm not sure if you are joking ? hello GTX 970, GTX 1070. So you would prefer to be loyal to company that sell you recycled products over and over with tiny improvements ? Luckily 72.5% of GPU buyers don't agree with you or the world is drowing in idiocy
ok... oddly strong reaction pointing towards some personal problems.
The GTX980Ti came out June 1, 2015, the GTX1070 that mostly beats it June 10, 2016

more then a year later.

Now you suggest Nvidia could/should launch a GTX1170 to that would beat a GTX1080ti about 6 months after the 1080ti's release.

Im sure you can understand where the problem lies with that suggestion.


Also, stop making silly assumptions, I did not say anything suggesting instead rewarding lazy amd, there is a 3rd option you know, not buying anything new for a while.....
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#17
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
dwadeSounds like all AMD products. None of them are 'overclocker's dream.'
sorry, my fx 8320 OCed from 3.5 to 4.2gz on all cores, stock voltage would love to have a word with you :P

anything is overclocable if you are capable enough. Back in the old days i had got a 15% overclock from a LOCKED MULTIPLIER CPU.
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#18
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
Looks like AMD was too busy kicking intels ass to think about Nvidia. Maybe next year :D
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#19
nguyen
ZoneDymook... oddly strong reaction pointing towards some personal problems.
The GTX980Ti came out June 1, 2015, the GTX1070 that mostly beats it June 10, 2016

more then a year later.

Now you suggest Nvidia could/should launch a GTX1170 to that would beat a GTX1080ti about 6 months after the 1080ti's release.

Im sure you can understand where the problem lies with that suggestion.


Also, stop making silly assumptions, I did not say anything suggesting instead rewarding lazy amd, there is a 3rd option you know, not buying anything new for a while.....
Just read your comment again and think how absurd it sounds. Perhaps the correct version is "no investors in their right mind would buy Nvidia stock...", because Nvidia would be shooting themself in the foot if they were to to release GTX 1170 so soon even if they could.
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#21
Nihilus
440 watts at the card! That is pathetic, AMD. What kind of PSU is needed for crossfire and an O/c 1700x - 1200 watts??
Curious to see how that would compare to Fury X trifire in performance and power usage....
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#22
bug
Nihilus440 watts at the card! That is pathetic, AMD. What kind of PSU is needed for crossfire and an O/c 1700x - 1200 watts??
Curious to see how that would compare to Fury X trifire in performance and power usage....
It uses 440W only when overclocked. I.e. running outside nominal parameters. That said, even when running normally it still draws a hell of a lot of juice.
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#23
Fluffmeister
They weren't kidding when they said poor voltage.
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#24
ZoneDymo
nguyenJust read your comment again and think how absurd it sounds. Perhaps the correct version is "no investors in their right mind would buy Nvidia stock...", because Nvidia would be shooting themself in the foot if they were to to release GTX 1170 so soon even if they could.
yes... that is my argument, I'm trying to convince you of how silly that is....how does your mind work?

This is YOUR comment:
"Right now AMD has only reach Maxwell's level of efficiency and Nvidia is readying Volta architecture, imagine GTX 1170 that could be released anytime Nvidia felt like it, perform at 1080ti performance while chewing 1/3 the power of VEGA RX, selling for 450usd a pop"

so I responded how I would not understand anyone buying any Nvidia product any more for several hundereds of dollars when they have a cheaper one in 6 months already.
Honestly man..... just wtf.
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#25
EarthDog
XiGMAKiDMaybe an undervolt could help lower the power consumption and temp just like previous gen from AMD
Of course it would... but WHY? Why would i buy the card to underclock amd lower voltage? Why should users need or want to do this??
bugIt uses 440W only when overclocked. I.e. running outside nominal parameters. That said, even when running normally it still draws a hell of a lot of juice.
440W... just wow. The 295x2 was 500w... that was two cards.
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