Wednesday, July 26th 2017
AMD RX Vega First Pricing Information Leaked in Sweden - "Feels Wrong"
Nordic Hardware is running a piece where they affirm their sources in the Swedish market have confirmed some retailers have already received first pricing information for AMD's upcoming RX Vega graphics cards. This preliminary pricing information places the Radeon RX Vega's price-tag at around 7,000 SEK (~$850) excluding VAT. Things take a turn towards the ugly when we take into account that this isn't even final retail price for consumers: add in VAT and the retailer's own margins, and prospective pricing is expected at about 9,000 SEK (~$1093). Pricing isn't fixed, however, as it varies between manufacturers and models (which we all know too well), and current pricing is solely a reference ballpark.
There is a possibility that the final retail prices will be different from these quoted ones, and if latest performance benchmarks are vindicated, they really should be. However, Nordic Hardware quotes their sources as saying these prices are setting a boundary for "real and final", and that the sentiment among Swedish retailers is that the pricing "Feels wrong". For reference, NVIDIA's GTX 1080 Ti is currently retailing at around 8,000 SEK (~971) including VAT, while the GTX 1080, which RX Vega has commonly been trading blows with, retails for around 5600 SEK (~$680) at the minimum. This should go without saying, but repare your body for the injection of a NaCl solution.
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Nordic Hardware
There is a possibility that the final retail prices will be different from these quoted ones, and if latest performance benchmarks are vindicated, they really should be. However, Nordic Hardware quotes their sources as saying these prices are setting a boundary for "real and final", and that the sentiment among Swedish retailers is that the pricing "Feels wrong". For reference, NVIDIA's GTX 1080 Ti is currently retailing at around 8,000 SEK (~971) including VAT, while the GTX 1080, which RX Vega has commonly been trading blows with, retails for around 5600 SEK (~$680) at the minimum. This should go without saying, but repare your body for the injection of a NaCl solution.
79 Comments on AMD RX Vega First Pricing Information Leaked in Sweden - "Feels Wrong"
Just pointing out. It's not out yet. but it's nothing you already know it's crap as 1080 GTX?
Question.
So what's your 1060 if 1080 and Vega are crap?
Vega is a (very) high end part. Vega needs more power than GTX 1080. Judging by what we know, Vega does not conclusively beat GTX 1080. Vega is coming out a year after GTX 1080. Maybe this is all you were waiting for, but I don't think that's what most users were waiting for.
So, where is the context here?
We are talking a piece of hardware that is, performance wise, the near top of current performance and we don't know how much it will cost.
B. Stop the crap with "written for the hardware" unless you're ok with the console ports that keep popping up every few months which means squat. The gap between AMD and nvidia's dx12 has been closed down well enough.
C. 1.5 Years wroth of development for Fiji v2.0? Yet some people called out Pascal being Maxwell on a smaller node. The only catch is Pascal works as intended. Vega on the other hand points out to the next space-heater your room will want for the winter. Also a fun fact nVidia had dominance for a full gen (almost) in the top tier with 0 competition. The market tends to saturate at some point thus making this a very though sell.
D. A piece of hardware that will be obsolete once nVidia releases Volta. Adding insult to the injury they can't match the current gen's high end after that "nice" PR campaign they put out.
Because you can't compare 3rd party cards with reference ones.
The GTX 1080 founder edition boost is 1733 per specification.
Let's try to play "how to be an adult" and compare apples to apples please.
at 83°C a stock reference 1080 clocks at ~1705MHz under load.
I'll show you one better
1759.
What are you trying to demonstrate exactly?
but when i sayand someone respondsI say "WTF is the culprit in comparing apples to oranges"?
We all know custom boards perform better than references, what is the point of using that as a counter argument?
B. I'd never use this argument myself, but I'm the one that calls a tie when the FPS breaks 120 in a comparison or the difference from one board to the other is 2 or 3. When you port something from or to a console you are capping at 30 or 60, all those extra 90 or 60 frames are lost. Last gen consoles are capable of rendering most games over 30, set aside the cpu taxing ones.
C. Completely biased statement I find useless to respond to.
D. Your vision of what is obsolete is childish. Let's see how much it will cost when Volta delivers and compare performance to performance.
This is higly dependant on custom cooler, case airflow, heat dissipation of other components.
Why in the world would you compare this specific situation of a custom board in a custom case with the reference, yet to be seen in real world situations, Vega?
Same is true with XMP... the majority of the ICs are rated for 2400Mhz and all.................but its not overclocked/overclocking when its labeled to make XXXX Mhz.
The sold spec on the 1080 garunteed it will boost upto 1733 ,if you didn't get that Rma , any extra boost 3 gives is still an overclock, its just a system and environment driven one. And not a warrantied one so not base spec.
I get that an overclock to you takes a guy and some time but that was how it used to be, in this day and age chip companies try to use all available resources.
Im yet to hear of any memory that automatically overclocks itself , and if you buy a speed of memory for its speed, that speed is warrantied not more.
There is a small contigent that believes xmp is overclocking, lol... i sure dont... but the ics are rated for 2400 mhz and binned up. Apples to oranges... fine. :)
Sitting your pc in the middle of antartic with a geni the same card could theoretically clock higher in the same pc then it would sat in a bedroom , if it crashes at 2ghz in every game is that warrantied , could i trade for a new possibly better one because I heard these boost to 2ghz on water but if i tried it and it didn't i am pretty sure I couldn't just rma trade it for that.
It wont boost that high/there are set limits to boost as well, and it is not the limit of the silicon, its set by mfg. This is where overclocking comes in... past factory clocks...boost 3.0 are still factory clocks. Just because its warmer and each glu will settle at a different clock, doesnt change its factory settings doing so. The factory sets the boost range. There is a set base clock, a set boost min, and set boost max (within params they setup). Overclocking is outside of what the factory provides.
Anyhoo... good talk..we'll chase our tails on this one so... :)