Friday, August 11th 2017
AMD Asks Reviewers to Prioritize Vega 56 over Vega 64
It seems that AMD's RX Vega lineup won't be too far away from the norm, it seems. Street knowledge almost always says that it's the runner-up to the highest performing graphics card that is the more interesting in a price-performance ratio, and it seems that AMD knows this as well. Steve Burke from Gamer's Nexus has reported on AMD's NDA dates and the company's indications to reviewers on changing up the game leading up to reviews: they're asking that publications focus on the Vega 56 ahead of the halo Vega 64.
This might be somewhat bad news for those who wanted to see the Vega 64 compete in favorable terms with the GTX 1080; this decision by AMD is obviously geared towards making the best impact on the company's product line and image. The fact that AMD can offer a more compelling argument over the Vega 64 means that Vega 56 will probably have an easier battle in the $400 camp (if you can find it at those prices on launch, that is.)Gamer's Nexus have offered a schedule of sorts for AMD's Vega NDA dates, which are:
Source:
Gamer's Nexus
This might be somewhat bad news for those who wanted to see the Vega 64 compete in favorable terms with the GTX 1080; this decision by AMD is obviously geared towards making the best impact on the company's product line and image. The fact that AMD can offer a more compelling argument over the Vega 64 means that Vega 56 will probably have an easier battle in the $400 camp (if you can find it at those prices on launch, that is.)Gamer's Nexus have offered a schedule of sorts for AMD's Vega NDA dates, which are:
- Unboxing embargo lift on Saturday, August 12, 11AM EDT: AMD permits unboxing photos or videos only.
- Performance embargo lift for Vega 56 on August 14, 9AM EDT.
- RX Vega 64 already in hands of some reviewers, with unboxing embargo lift on Saturday, August 12, 11AM EDT.
- RX Vega 64 performance embargo lift on August 14, 9AM EDT.
- Update: Vega 56 launches on 8/28.
34 Comments on AMD Asks Reviewers to Prioritize Vega 56 over Vega 64
Can't wait for the reviews!
Think carefully before buying. How is this fallout, beautiful, wrapped and sold is horrible!
If AMD whould solve that problems it should be possible to outperform a GTX1080 with 3072 CUs at a somewhat equal powerdraw and not with 100W more.
Everything else was speculation. This news bit missed that subtlety..
Remember when they said that vega would launch at the end of Q2? But that is just it, isnt it? The thing that makes GCN so strong, its powerful cores, are its very weakness. GCN isnt as modular and nvidias arch, and cutting it up would require a massive redesign, which AMD seems unwilling to do.
If VEGA is really a mining god, AMD coul aswell rebrand themselve as Advanced Mining Device.
i mean seriously, they are making more GPUs so miners dont buy all of them. :laugh: Do you even capitalism. :roll:The miners buy every single GPU they can get their hands on, causing a shortage of the much easier to make polaris, and they are salivating at VEGA. AMD making even more of them for a huge launch is a miner's wet dream, and delaying the launch gives miners more time to stock up funds and sell off weaker cards in preparation of VEGA's eventual launch.
VEGA will be a failure in the gaming market not just because of miners, but because it is still at the efficiency level of a 2014 GPU....in 2017. It isnt competitive against pascaal on perf/watt, and therefor absolute performance still favors nvidia.
If AMD cared about preventing miners from sucking up all the cards, they would have gimped mining performance ages ago, instead of making it BETTER with a newer driver. www.techpowerup.com/235813/amd-rx-vega-mining-performance-reportedly-doubled-with-driver-updates
And the boost of mining perfomance wasn't intentional, it was just a correlation of amd improving the general perfomance of the cards. Mining is just plain computing power. Gimping mining performance means gimping every task that make use of open cl or direct compute. Wich wouldn't be good.
And miners buying every single GPU isn't that good on the long run, because as the price increase they are getting less and less interesting for both gamers and miners. I don't think that there is a lot of ppl buying RX570-580 at the moment in Europe because they are both hard to find and really expensive. for 70-100 more € you can get a GTX 1070 now.
Ah well. theyll make decent money from the miners buying everything.
As for the drivers, mining is a bit more then just raw computing power, otherwise nvidia cards would be a LOT better then they currently are at mining. It takes specific compute power (and favors higher FP performance) and varied depending on currency. It is entirely possible to isolate when a certain process is doing mining and purposefully slow down the card so it doesnt mine well. Whether or not AMD is capable of doing that is up for speculation.
Or they just could have used GDDR5X last year and not had to deal with this issue, as GDDR5X is terrible for ETH mining.
If it worth the money...