Wednesday, October 11th 2017
EVGA Caught Sending Golden Samples of the SuperNova B3 to JonnyGuru
An Overclock.net member, "shilka", posted late last month over the failure of power protection in EVGA's SuperNova B3 power supplies, specifically the 450 and 850 W models. This adds to the concerns first raised by Tom's Hardware, one of whose review units created fireworks. Normally, for a product that has been on the market for some time, as the B3 series has, one could chalk up such incidents to a faulty batch. But it appears that might not be the case, considering JonnyGuru also reviewed EVGA's B3 and did not encounter any fire hazards.
It has subsequently emerged that the sample provided by EVGA to JonnyGuru was manufactured by Super Flower, whose Leadex platform is well known for its performance and high quality. Aris of Tom's Hardware (and TechPowerUp), however, bought their review sample from a retail outlet. The manufacturing of the latter had been outsourced to RSY, with (in this case) a resulting decline in build quality. It remains unclear whether Super Flower outsourced its production, or if EVGA is using multiple suppliers or switched manufacturers all together. Regardless, lesser quality PSUs would appear to be in stores in comparison to what was reviewed at JonnyGuru, arguably the most influential review site for PSUs.After several days of silence, EVGA made a boilerplate statement (to Legitreviews):
"EVGA stands behind its full line of products, and the 5-Year Warranty on each B3 power supply demonstrates the confidence EVGA has in the quality and safety of each product shipped. If anyone has questions or concerns, please contact EVGA Customer Service and we are more than happy to assist. In the rare instance that a replacement unit is necessary, EVGA will support with a free Advanced RMA on all EVGA SuperNOVA B3 Power Supplies.
In addition, the EVGA SuperNOVA B3 review samples, as well as the production, were all built at the exact same qualified facility."
Does not exactly clear things up, does it? EVGA has a responsibility to ensure that its products remains consistent in features and performance across different production lines. The company has an excellent reputation for customer service, but offering to assist customers in those "rare instances" when "a replacement unit is necessary" is somewhat problematic. Not only is there no mention of coverage for hardware damaged by a malfunctioning PSU, but the SuperNova B3 line has been on the market for approximately six months now, so there are potentially a lot of units out there that might constitute a danger. On the other hand, these could be isolated cases as one would expect other reports of trouble to have emerged in the past six months.
Update (October 11, 2017): EVGA did respond to our email and provided the same statement seen above. In addition, they also mentioned they have not had a report of the PSUs going faulty under normal operating conditions, assured us that it would not, and they would stand by their warranty terms to where if it happens and affects other hardware (our query), they would review all the hardware as part of the RMA process.
Source:
Legitreviews
It has subsequently emerged that the sample provided by EVGA to JonnyGuru was manufactured by Super Flower, whose Leadex platform is well known for its performance and high quality. Aris of Tom's Hardware (and TechPowerUp), however, bought their review sample from a retail outlet. The manufacturing of the latter had been outsourced to RSY, with (in this case) a resulting decline in build quality. It remains unclear whether Super Flower outsourced its production, or if EVGA is using multiple suppliers or switched manufacturers all together. Regardless, lesser quality PSUs would appear to be in stores in comparison to what was reviewed at JonnyGuru, arguably the most influential review site for PSUs.After several days of silence, EVGA made a boilerplate statement (to Legitreviews):
"EVGA stands behind its full line of products, and the 5-Year Warranty on each B3 power supply demonstrates the confidence EVGA has in the quality and safety of each product shipped. If anyone has questions or concerns, please contact EVGA Customer Service and we are more than happy to assist. In the rare instance that a replacement unit is necessary, EVGA will support with a free Advanced RMA on all EVGA SuperNOVA B3 Power Supplies.
In addition, the EVGA SuperNOVA B3 review samples, as well as the production, were all built at the exact same qualified facility."
Does not exactly clear things up, does it? EVGA has a responsibility to ensure that its products remains consistent in features and performance across different production lines. The company has an excellent reputation for customer service, but offering to assist customers in those "rare instances" when "a replacement unit is necessary" is somewhat problematic. Not only is there no mention of coverage for hardware damaged by a malfunctioning PSU, but the SuperNova B3 line has been on the market for approximately six months now, so there are potentially a lot of units out there that might constitute a danger. On the other hand, these could be isolated cases as one would expect other reports of trouble to have emerged in the past six months.
Update (October 11, 2017): EVGA did respond to our email and provided the same statement seen above. In addition, they also mentioned they have not had a report of the PSUs going faulty under normal operating conditions, assured us that it would not, and they would stand by their warranty terms to where if it happens and affects other hardware (our query), they would review all the hardware as part of the RMA process.
45 Comments on EVGA Caught Sending Golden Samples of the SuperNova B3 to JonnyGuru
On the other hand... it really is bad...
Altough someone here with a goat in the avatar managed to burn an unburnable too... everything is tainted these days.
No corporate shenanigan bs involved, no buying/demanding positive reviews like we remember with Gamespot and Jeff gerstmann
I wonder if the same thing happens with the GPUs as well. For some of us, this will no doubt bring their entire production into question.
Concerning EVGA and their cards, wasn't there a big issue/concern involving their GTX 900 series cards? Something about the lack of contact from the heat pipes or something? I vaguely remember it... But yeah, I know a lot of people like and use their products, but they really need to quit making 10 different models of the same damn card :kookoo:
Lets get back on track.
I think this topic has run its course.
/thread
Reminds me a bit about XfX core series: when lower specced 450W and 550W ones where new revision were filled with some crappy third tier Chinese caps, while higher specced retain using all Japanese...
Edit: oh that 850W B3 died for them too while testing. Well then stay a way from those bronze evgas. I doubt that would have happened with bronze SeaSonic platforms. Heck one of my crappy seasonic based XfX 450 core edition with Sus'cons is still operating just fine after five years of service(Yeah I know I should retire it, or re-cap secondary)...
This PSU was supposed to have been made by Super Flower.
Thing is about Super Flower is that they have a very small factory. Outsourcing is VERY common. You do NOT know if a Super Flower PSU is actually built by Super Flower. Because Aris tests OPP by intentionally overloading the PSU. Jeremy only tests to 100% PSU's advertised capability.