xkm1948Dude I am broke. New GPU is my last priority as of now. Still owe weekly payments to my daughter's day care. :(

I feel you, I have a fat hospital bill to pay, besides truck, insurance, phone, rent, only get 36 hrs average... I can't upgrade my rig to a Threadripper like I wanted this year. It's all good though.

fullinfusionSource???

I smell BS

www.techpowerup.com/238898/next-major-amd-driver-release-relive-redux-to-include-performance-osd

So what is it, Redux or Adrenalin?

Well I just got an email from RTG with pretty much the same info?

As a R9 Fury X owner I'll be very upset if they don't offer any of the new features for us older GCN users. If that's the case then I probably won't get another AMD card ever again. :(

AmazingAussieAs a R9 Fury X owner I'll be very upset if they don't offer any of the new features for us older GCN users.

GCN 3 was released 2 and a half years ago , sorry but one should have no expectations to receive driver optimizations forever , especially after there's a new flagship on the market. I know it's not a comforting though when you spent so much on a GPU which is why I never recommend buying the absolute best because you will inevitably regret it sooner or later if you don't have realistic expectations.

Think about the people who bought the first Kepler Titan , yeah...

AmazingAussieAs a R9 Fury X owner I'll be very upset if they don't offer any of the new features for us older GCN users. If that's the case then I probably won't get another AMD card ever again. :(

Main issue with Fury seems to be the amount of RAM.

It isn't clear if "cache" mode used on Vega could be used with Fury.

INSTG8RYeah it’s pretty sad, the fact is Fury is still the Flagship before Vega yet it’s been the most neglected flagship I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned a lot of ATI/AMD flagship cards in the last 20 years. I mean I’m still happy with it but it’s sad it’s been so forgotten. I mean we could have at least gotten a full featured Wattman like Polaris got....

What's missing ?
same as vega (memory voltage control) ?
I don't see anything less on the fury than vega, polaris have extra's though.

AmazingAussieAs a R9 Fury X owner I'll be very upset if they don't offer any of the new features for us older GCN users. If that's the case then I probably won't get another AMD card ever again. :(

You repeat it with replace amd with nvidia when you own one of theirs.
grass ain't greener on the other side.

Memory improvements for high memory usage scenarios improving performance up to 10%*

One may see that in an nvidia driver and see 25% performance loss on a GTX970 which is one of the most sold cards and then it never ever gets fixed again so you're stuck at a 375 driver or something never getting anything again.

Depends on the system, some only play CS and never notice it and is perfectly happy while others play newer titles at 1440P and have to go down to low on settings while a RX480 does high...( they're equally fast really!)

I ain't saying nvidia is particularly bad but being in both camps I cannot say under Windows life is easier, worse and what not with either brand because I simply have issues with Both.
It's just... different issues.

Conclusion is just buy what gives bang for the buck, have either AIB or reference card that you're fine with hardware wise.
and think a year in advance(Future game tech, performs well in new engines) and it should be a decent buy regardless of brand cause both camps will upset you eventually.

My take on the topic with now 110+ gpu ownerships behind me with roughly 50\50 split between the camps. :)

ImsochoboWhat's missing ?
same as vega (memory voltage control) ?
I don't see anything less on the fury than vega, polaris have extra's though.

It’s has absolutely no more features available than Overdrive did. It’s just reskinned in Wattman clothes.

INSTG8RWell I just got an email from RTG with pretty much the same info?

That is a source and I thank you but I see the OP has ignored my question.

And yes Adrenalin is the Name, and not Redux as the link in my previous post said.. So that's one thing narrowed down but the rest is meaningless to me without a Source..

This isn't News, actual news has sources and facts to back it up..

AmazingAussieAs a R9 Fury X owner I'll be very upset if they don't offer any of the new features for us older GCN users. If that's the case then I probably won't get another AMD card ever again. :(

Boo Friggin who.

Im on a 290. Go ahead and switch, no one is stopping you from doing it.

INSTG8RIt’s has absolutely no more features available than Overdrive did. It’s just reskinned in Wattman clothes.

sooo it's exactly the same as their brand new card then?... :)
I can set target and max on temp which I couldn't on a fury which I can with Vega (at least on the bios I use)
Polaris can actually set memory voltage but fury\Vega cannot.

Name something that's actually missing as I fail to recall anything missing :P
And wattman IS overdrive in new skin.

Imsochobosooo it's exactly the same as their brand new card then?... :)
I can set target and max on temp which I couldn't on a fury which I can with Vega (at least on the bios I use)
Polaris can actually set memory voltage but fury\Vega cannot.

Name something that's actually missing as I fail to recall anything missing :p
And wattman IS overdrive in new skin.

Funny I could set Target Temp with OD it was the only feature I used until somewhere they changed it from fan spinning up to throttling the clocks instead that’s when I finally tossed it completely for AB and a fan curve

Not stable with my Vega 64 Liquid XD....

Again driver compare the optimizing at the start of this years to the end.

I prefere the video with Ruby's :(

dozenfuryAMD learned long ago that marketing is a lot cheaper than R&D...

Was curious about it, so I checked the SEC 10K income statements for these companies
Nvidia (10K 2017):
Nvidia Marketing as Percentage of R&D: 45.28%
(the previous SEC 10K for 2016: 45.11%, so essentially the same)

AMD (10K 2016):
AMD Marketing as Percentage of R&D: 45.63%

Intel(SEC 10K 2016):
IntelMarketing as Percentage of R&D: 65.91%

They seem to be pretty cryptic about the new features in this release. Though they have a voting system for their features where you can roughly predict what people ask for the most. Currently better support for Enhanced Sync on older Radeon cards and global Chill support are winning. So, you can roughly predict this might be featured in Adrenalin update...

radeon.com/radeonsoftware/feedback/

xkm1948No more Fury/X support.

It is still getting support. Problem is, not many people have them so it's hard to find, isolate, and fix issues.

If you do have issues, report them.

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AmazingAussieAs a R9 Fury X owner I'll be very upset if they don't offer any of the new features for us older GCN users. If that's the case then I probably won't get another AMD card ever again. :(

What gave that impression? All GCN cards support ReLive. Adrenaline is similar. It's a software/feature update. The only cards that have fallen off the RADAR are HD 6### and older.[/LEFT]

Hope they fix the problem with GPU clock locked to max problem for Fiji. It has been 3 drivers like this. A little bit of VR will lock Core clock to 1050 and not backing down.

I have reported this twice now with no response. Then again overwatch has been broken several months now. Not keeping any hope AMD may actually address these issues

FordGT90ConceptIt is still getting support. Problem is, not many people have them so it's hard to find, isolate, and fix issues.

If you do have issues, report them.


What gave that impression? All GCN cards support ReLive. Adrenaline is similar. It's a software/feature update. The only cards that have fallen off the RADAR are HD 6### and older.

Supported, yes

Actively optimized, no

AMD stopped Fiji specific optimization right after Polaris launch. So it only enjoyed less than a year of high priority optimization.

Of course the excuses are AMD has very limited resource. So fellow FuryX owners just suck it up and move on.

Are you running 17.11.4? AMD is trying to figure out what the Overwatch crashes are about but they're illusive. Can you get Overwatch to crash consistently?

Vya DomusGCN 3 was released 2 and a half years ago , sorry but one should have no expectations to receive driver optimizations forever , especially after there's a new flagship on the market. I know it's not a comforting though when you spent so much on a GPU which is why I never recommend buying the absolute best because you will inevitably regret it sooner or later if you don't have realistic expectations.

Think about the people who bought the first Kepler Titan , yeah...

I'm not talking about optimisations. I'm talking about features that aren't architecture specific.

FordGT90ConceptIt is still getting support. Problem is, not many people have them so it's hard to find, isolate, and fix issues.

If you do have issues, report them.

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What gave that impression? All GCN cards support ReLive. Adrenaline is similar. It's a software/feature update. The only cards that have fallen off the RADAR are HD 6### and older.[/LEFT]

eidairaman1Boo Friggin who.

Im on a 290. Go ahead and switch, no one is stopping you from doing it.

I meant Enhanced Sync, they introduced it to Polaris 6 months ago and us older users still don't have it... :(

I won't be surprised if that screen GPU utility overlay feature won't come to older cards either.

AmazingAussieI'm not talking about optimisations. I'm talking about features that aren't architecture specific.




I meant Enhanced Sync, they introduced it to Polaris 6 months ago and us older users still don't have it... :(

I won't be surprised if that screen GPU utility overlay feature won't come to older cards either.

Any questions ask @fullinfusion @cdawall of the Vanguard Team