Friday, February 9th 2018
Microsoft Office 2019 Will Run on Windows 10, and Only Windows 10
As reported yesterday, Microsoft changed the way how they license Windows 10 to their OEM partners. But buckle in folks, the changes just keep on coming. In what looks like an effort to push Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 owners to upgrade, Microsoft has officially announced that Office 2019 will only work on machines with Windows 10 and the next LTSC release of Windows Server. That's only the tip of the iceberg though. Unlike previous version of Office that came with 10 years of support, Office 2019's support lifecycle is shortened to five years of mainstream support and two years of extended support. Additionally, the client applications are only available with a Click-to-Run installer. However, Microsoft will continue to provide a MSI installer for the server applications.
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netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?options={"filter":{"$and":[{"deviceType":{"$in":["Desktop/laptop","Mobile"]}}]},"dateLabel":"Trend","attributes":"share","group":"platform","sort":{"share":-1},"id":"platformsDesktop","dateInterval":"Monthly","dateStart":"2017-02","dateEnd":"2018-01","segments":"-1000"}
In the end, this is what MS is trying to combat with W10 / One Windows / Continuum and all that other desperate stuff. The fact is, they're already way too late.
For gamers, tinkerers and other home power users, Windows will stay for a very long time.
NetMarketShare data just tells you how people browse the section of internet they are monitoring or trends for internet usage. And the phone gives you full-time browsing: on the bus, in the elevator, while driving, in the shitter, etc. So if your life revolves around web browsing then you're good. But what about trends for anything else? What do you do when you need some productivity? Where do you go if you want to edit a 20 page document, let alone more complex tasks? The "barely runs" laptop or the "fully featured" phone?
The statistics will keep going up because data plans become cheaper and people use them to browse even more, not because the phone is some miracle device that does everything well.
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/worldwide/2017
Then look at these;
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/worldwide/2016
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/worldwide/2015
gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/worldwide/2014
For the last four years Windows has been on a steady decline and Android on a steady incline. In March of 2017 Android became the dominant OS. They traded places very briefly in Nov of 2017, but the trend has resumed.
It is likely to continue and Windows may very well become irrelevant on many levels before the end of the decade.
Office 2019 only supporting Win10 may become a non-issue during and after it's release.
No office program is worth $100 a year.there are 2 classes that make up the majority of people who bother paying for officeL businesses and older folks who dont know about anything other then office, but still buy the newest as opposed to still using 2003.
Both groups still have a large number of 7 machines, and will not upgrade until they absolutely have to. Until businesses move to 10, sales will be low.
1. Websites that use StatCounter are not an accurate representation of OS Marketshare. There are a billion variables in the way of a clear analysis and simply recording the OS visiting a website is not a good measure. What if the websites that use statcounter are typically one's visited by mobile devices? This is ignoring the fact that mobile devices are made to do simple things like web browse while many PC many never even visit a single statcounter website while it's toiling away encoding.
2. The fact that Statcounter is not applied consistently
3. Methodology is not shown or explained. This data is worthless without this and could very well be misleading if incorrectly gathered. Bad data is worse than no data.
Seriously, that is a terrible source and the iOS marketshare should have given that away. Just by financial data alone we can tell more iOS devices are out in the wild than is suggested.
But id not bother with windows 10 just for office.
If it wasnt for the gamers microsfot would be pretty screwed
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It makes a lot of sense for businesses, not so much for consumers. If you're deep in the Windows ecosystem, this will soon become the superior option.Depends on when you started your rollout. You can't start new rollouts from scratch now because Microsoft isn't handing out keys to anyone, although Windows 8.1 is still a viable option.
But to say they're not going to buy it? Eh. Microsoft's interoperability between Office suites isn't that great, particularly between Office 2016 and Office 2007. They both read the same basic formats, and files created on one opens on the other. However, there are significant differences in how the different suites interprets them. Businesses might move to Office 2019 just for compatibility purposes.Use Google Drive, but just don't open or edit anything on Google Drive. I've had it mess up a few ODF files before, though I think that may have been because the file was generated with a beta version of Libre Office.Gamers on Windows machines account for over 150 million users on Steam, as one example. Windows 10's shipments to date are around the 660 million licenses sold mark. Gamers are a significant source of revenue for Microsoft, especially when you take Microsoft Store sales into account. Soon, they'll have Windows 10 gamers signing up for Xbox Game Pass.
This is especially relevant in 3rd-world countries (I'm from one, so I get to call us that!) where people have much lower incomes, and proportionally less money to spend on tech. When you have to choose between a $500 shitty PC + $100 featurephone vs dropping 400-800 on a decent smartphone, you often go towards the phone side. ESPECIALLY if your job gets you access to a real computer.
EDIT: I wouldn't buy a J-series samsung (I need real amounts of RAM on my phone), but it's perfectly adequate for most of my relatives.
EDIT2: I use Syncthing for my own syncing (I have more data synced than literally any free service allows me to store), GSuite business for my own bulk offsite storage, and oneDrive Business/SharePoint for work stuff.Ignoring the points @evernessince mentioned, the obvious, and most important missing bit in the statcounter info is the complete lack of total numbers. % changes in tech often means just changes in growth rates, and a lot less people abandoning a platform for another.OneNote is. Real OneNote, not the bastardized, useless POS that is the UWP app.
I guess Excel and PowerPoint are good too, and Work is a passable word processor... Outlook's passable too...If you work with other business, people or states, you often end up using MSOffice just to keep collaboration sane. Especially if you use Excel beyond =A7+B7. A bunch of businesses have moved to 10 as well, like my dad's small consultancy. It's been great for me, since I don't need to worry about updates in particular.
If that means that 14% switches from another OS to Win10; means a shift of 7% marketshare to Win10 (bit more than 50% is not on Win10)
That´s reason enough for MS to push this
In the context of my comment, when you go by where the PC user numbers are changing, you'll find that a very large chunk is from 3rd-world nations constantly improving computer access, primarily by a LOT of people buying their first smartphone, which is almost certainly an Android device.
" but you would likely just rationalize and disregard it"
Oh noes! I'm a rational person! Whoa, I must be bad in the era of fake news for wanting to check sources and methodologies.It monitors select webpages, that's not actual usage in any form. Factual? Where are the actual numbers behind their percentages? Oh, that's right, they don't provide any.
And a funny excerpt from the article
"NetMarketShare and StatCounter are both popular for their operating system and web browser measurements, but their numbers are massaged. Both companies use different methodologies. Their results often vary for reasons that don't appear to have any rhyme or reasons."
Looks like Major tech publications agree with me too. Look at the difference in data you can get merely by measuring different websites.
"First, while both companies have the same general goal—measuring Web browser popularity—they use different methodologies. Ultimately, they're not really measuring the same thing, or even trying to do so. Net Applications, Net Market Share's parent company, is more interested in counting unique visitors' Web browser hits, while StatCounter looks at raw browser hits."
In otherwards, exactly what I said. The way they collect their data makes it completely useless for measuring marketshare. Now I've provided my analysis, let's see if you can refute it.