Interesting, no Ryzen 5 1600 on that list

That 1950X keeps looking better and better, but I am going to wait to see second gen clock speeds.

LoosenutInteresting, no Ryzen 5 1600 on that list

Ryzen 5 1600 is very popular. I guess it got a lot of word-of-mouth marketing among gamers and DIY builders. AMD wouldn't mind selling it at its current price. Even at its current price it has more perf/$ than 1600X because you need to consider aftermarket cooler costs of 1600X.

cdawallThat 1950X keeps looking better and better, but I am going to wait to see second gen clock speeds.

If you live close to a Micro center the 1950X is $729. Pretty awesome price if you have the need for it. The TR build i did in January has already sequenced and assembled 9 different genomes. It is truly a beast.

cdawallThat 1950X keeps looking better and better, but I am going to wait to see second gen clock speeds.

Considering initial whet and drystone testing doesnt show enough of a performance increase to justify switching from a 1600X/1700X to a 2K part...

LoosenutInteresting, no Ryzen 5 1600 on that list

Current 1600 pricing falls between the 1600x and 1500x, so no reason really for a price cut.

xkm1948If you live close to a Micro center the 1950X is $729. Pretty awesome price if you have the need for it. The TR build i did in January has already sequenced and assembled 9 different genomes. It is truly a beast.

So how much time does it take for a single genome sequencing & assembly?

R0H1TSo how much time does it take for a single genome sequencing & assembly?

Was just going to ask that. Kinda curious. Everyone knows TR is a beast of a CPU, but it would be nice to have some context from a real world user.

R0H1TSo how much time does it take for a single genome sequencing & assembly?

My basic knowledge of biology tells me it probably depends on the organism he is sequencing (assuming human), but I'm still curious.

R0H1TSo how much time does it take for a single genome sequencing & assembly?

Based on genome size, quality of wet lab preparation and coverage( X times the size of genome, the more coverage the more accurate your assembly is)

A small microbial genome can be sequnced at 90X coverage in 2hrs and assembled in 15 mins. Human genome, which are about 1000 times larger than bacteria genome can take up to 6hrs to get good (>30X coverage) Assembly usually takes 2 hours due to the complexity.

This is huge advancement compared to traditional Illumina based sequencing and assembly. The old way usually take one to two weeks and you usually only get partial genome. And that assembly MUST be done on HPC clusters.

xkm1948Based on genome size, quality of wet lab preparation and coverage( X times the size of genome, the more coverage the more accurate your assembly is)

A small microbial genome can be sequnced at 90X coverage in 2hrs and assembled in 15 mins. Human genome, which are about 1000 times larger than bacteria genome can take up to 6hrs to get good (>30X coverage) Assembly usually takes 2 hours due to the complexity.

This is huge advancement compared to traditional Illumina based sequencing and assembly. The old way usually take one to two weeks and you usually only get partial genome. And that assembly MUST be done on HPC clusters.

Thank you for sharing. My understanding of these things are admittedly limited, but I understand enough to know that this is a serious advancement. Very cool indeed!

Must be a US only thing as Retailers in the UK havent really started knocking down their prices yet to match

All great and all, but as long as Ram prices and GPU prices stay as high as they are atm im not getting a new pc anyway

ZoneDymoAll great and all, but as long as Ram prices and GPU prices stay as high as they are atm im not getting a new pc anyway

No one can argue with that. We feel that pain.

xkm1948If you live close to a Micro center the 1950X is $729. Pretty awesome price if you have the need for it. The TR build i did in January has already sequenced and assembled 9 different genomes. It is truly a beast.

Hmm I hadn't looked at their CPU prices on that yet.

eidairaman1Considering initial whet and drystone testing doesnt show enough of a performance increase to justify switching from a 1600X/1700X to a 2K part...

I would hope quality has improved so I can in theory have a higher overclocked top end. I do have a giant water loop this will be under. Also waiting on another MATX option outside of Asrock.

lol

look again, btw i bought 1800x £499 now you can take it for £290
but keep says to every one price's not going down :-)

1600x now only £189

FreedomEclipseMust be a US only thing as Retailers in the UK havent really started knocking down their prices yet to match

cdawallHmm I hadn't looked at their CPU prices on that yet.



I would hope quality has improved so I can in theory have a higher overclocked top end. I do have a giant water loop this will be under. Also waiting on another MATX option outside of Asrock.

2700XFR is 4.35 supposedly

realy ? only 189 pound ?
I am not going to pay a single pound for a ryzen, even if he has a million cores. never going to buy a processor that betrays the user's security with "security processors" and "management engines". im not buying until there are new ground rules.
they also put "security processor" back door into vega video cards.

Manoarealy ? only 189 pound ?
I am not going to pay a single pound for a ryzen, even if he has a million cores. never going to buy a processor that betrays the user's security with "security processors" and "management engines". im not buying until there are new ground rules.
they also put "security processor" back door into vega video cards.

Dont spread fud, Intel has security threats too, it pertains to asmedia, includes meltdown, spectre.

Manoarealy ? only 189 pound ?
I am not going to pay a single pound for a ryzen, even if he has a million cores. never going to buy a processor that betrays the user's security with "security processors" and "management engines". im not buying until there are new ground rules.
they also put "security processor" back door into vega video cards.

funny you mention management engines when that was an Intel issue. Are you going back to VIA chips?

security threats is one, "security processors" is another, the first is a mistake a flaw a fault, the second is a CPU deliberately compromised by manufacturer
and yes intel do the same thing, I am not buying neither, I prefer phenom 2 with coreboot flashed it is a secure system

because of PRISM law you allowed in America the whole world now suffer

Are you going back to VIA chips?

if that what it takes to secure computing, yes. the K6000 or something, never tried a VIA chip before but now that am awear of the problem I seriously considering to build future systems with VIA, but for now there is supply of phenom 2 mobos and CPUs which are probably better than K6000, hopefully by the time the phenom 2 systems run out VIA (or something) can be more performant/more cores/more cheap.

and just to explain myself: I am not a freak of security, just like most people aren't, my reply looks like I am so I wanted to explain: it's a principle
and just before you say it help PRISM to stop criminals: it won't: look at the recent criminal activities: they stole millions or billions of $ in bitcoint from corporations by encrypting their data - wouldn't you think that the security processor should have reported the development of this malware/attack/cybervirus ? but it didn't ! and the money is stolen ! - there exist only 2 reasons for this: 1. modern criminals are not stupid enough to use a compromised processor to do their work 2. the reason for the "security processors" is not for NSA or to catch cyber criminals - it is to data mining and tracking (as in the purpose is to steal people's privacy/soul, not to know their bank account numbers or what software they develop on their computer)

eidairaman1Dont spread fud, Intel has security threats too, it pertains to asmedia, includes meltdown, spectre.

I'm pretty sure he was refering to the global marketplace (ie, all manufacturers).

That's not FUD. That's just the suckage we have.

Manoasecurity threats is one, "security processors" is another, the first is a mistake a flaw a fault, the second is a CPU deliberately compromised by manufacturer
and yes intel do the same thing, I am not buying neither, I prefer phenom 2 with coreboot flashed it is a secure system

because of PRISM law you allowed in America the whole world now suffer


if that what it takes to secure computing, yes. the K6000 or something, never tried a VIA chip before but now that am awear of the problem I seriously considering to build future systems with VIA, but for now there is supply of phenom 2 mobos and CPUs which are probably better than K6000, hopefully by the time the phenom 2 systems run out VIA (or something) can be more performant/more cores/more cheap.

and just to explain myself: I am not a freak of security, just like most people aren't, my reply looks like I am so I wanted to explain: it's a principle
and just before you say it help PRISM to stop criminals: it won't: look at the recent criminal activities: they stole millions or billions of $ in bitcoint from corporations by encrypting their data - wouldn't you think that the security processor should have reported the development of this malware/attack/cybervirus ? but it didn't ! and the money is stolen ! - there exist only 2 reasons for this: 1. modern criminals are not stupid enough to use a compromised processor to do their work 2. the reason for the "security processors" is not for NSA or to catch cyber criminals - it is to data mining and tracking (as in the purpose is to steal people's privacy/soul, not to know their bank account numbers or what software they develop on their computer)

You may want to look into an Intel solution because at least there are ways to disable the management engine on Haswell and such I think, IIRC. It's some kind of hackery though.

That said, you have my respect. I'd do it if I could, believe me.

eidairaman12700XFR is 4.35 supposedly

Yea, but that is a ryzen chip I want a threadripper 2.0

cdawallYea, but that is a ryzen chip I want a threadripper 2.0

Im sure after Ryzen 2000 series launches, Threadripper 2000 will follow suit

Lol, yes you so important! Every single hacker try nuke your pc and take your data lol..

Dont be a fanny, hackers dont waste time on wankers like you, and even if, what they will found in you pc? Apart porno library?

Manoarealy ? only 189 pound ?
I am not going to pay a single pound for a ryzen, even if he has a million cores. never going to buy a processor that betrays the user's security with "security processors" and "management engines". im not buying until there are new ground rules.
they also put "security processor" back door into vega video cards.