Friday, May 11th 2018

NVIDIA Puts the GeForce GTX 1060 Under the Knife Once Again

NVIDIA has a long history of playing Dr. Frankenstein on their graphics cards. The latest rumors from China suggest that NVIDIA is wheeling the GeForce GTX 1060 into the operating room for the fifth time. Currently, there are already four variants of the GeForce GTX 1060 in the wild: the original model with 6 GB of memory, the refreshed 6 GB model with slightly faster memory (9 Gbps), the cut-down model with 3 GB of memory, and finally, the Chinese-exclusive model with 5 GB of memory. However, NVIDIA's intentions are more ambitious this time. Apparently, their plan is to implement a variant of the existing high-performance GP104 GPU into the GeForce GTX 1060. As a reminder, the more powerful models like the GeForce GTX 1070, 1070 Ti, and 1080 all utilize the GP104 chip. Curiously, we've seen a variant of the GP104 (GP104-140) chip in a lower-end model before, specifically the GTX 1060 3GB.

On this occasion, NVIDIA is going to tailor the GP104-300, the silicon used in the GTX 1070, to the GTX 1060. This new SKU will carry the GP104-150 label. Despite the radical change, GP104-equipped GTX 1060 graphics cards share the same specifications as the original 6 GB model. Therefore, performance should be right in line as well. Although, we can expect some slight, unnoticeable differences in regards to thermals and power consumption. As usual, the new GTX 1060s will be exclusive to the Chinese market. With the next-generation of NVIDIA graphics cards almost among us, the company has been working diligently to clear their Pascal stock.
Source: Expreview
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72 Comments on NVIDIA Puts the GeForce GTX 1060 Under the Knife Once Again

#51
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
Chloe PriceCan it be ran without bridge, like Crossfire?
Not with anything that resembles the normal nvidia drivers.
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#52
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
cdawallNot with anything that resembles the normal nvidia drivers.
Ah, alright. Just thought that the chip supports it.
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#53
Caring1
Th3pwn3rIf you were a farmer and had a cow, would you only milk it half way? Your answer is going to be no and same goes for Nvidia or ANY business interested in making profits.
Hahahaha, so the answer is to suck it dry until it's dead?
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#54
Vayra86
AssimilatorWhat is this, logic instead of blind anti-NVIDIA sentiment in a TPU thread?

Geddouttahere :p
Yeah I had a bright moment. Savor it :D
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#55
stimpy88
Vya DomusNvidia sure is doing their best to sell severely overpriced products, but, the practice of using the same die for multiple variants is perfectly valid. AMD is doing it , Intel is doing it , literately everyone else is doing it and there is no reason why it would pose any sort of disadvantage to the consumer.

Dose it really make you sleep better at night if the GPU you bought was not a cut down version of something else ?
Ahhh, you're one of those...lol... Lets hope nV and their partners clearly label the boxes this time...

But to answer your perfectly valid question, yes I would sleep better at night if my GTX970 had the fully usable 4GB of RAM it was advertised with, thanks very much.

You gonna lecture me on how my card does technically have a full 4GB of RAM, now son?
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#56
Legacy-ZA
I don't think I will ever buy a non-Ti version again. It would seem, just a few months later you get the middle finger.
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#57
Assimilator
stimpy88Ahhh, you're one of those...lol... Lets hope nV and their partners clearly label the boxes this time...

But to answer your perfectly valid question, yes I would sleep better at night if my GTX970 had the fully usable 4GB of RAM it was advertised with, thanks very much.

You gonna lecture me on how my card does technically have a full 4GB of RAM, now son?
No, but we are gonna lecture you on how terribly poor the quality of your trolling is.
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#58
Th3pwn3r
Caring1Hahahaha, so the answer is to suck it dry until it's dead?
Yes. Guess what happens after that? That cow becomes burgers and steaks, the hide becomes leather and I don't know what else happens.
stimpy88Ahhh, you're one of those...lol... Lets hope nV and their partners clearly label the boxes this time...

But to answer your perfectly valid question, yes I would sleep better at night if my GTX970 had the fully usable 4GB of RAM it was advertised with, thanks very much.

You gonna lecture me on how my card does technically have a full 4GB of RAM, now son?
Lemme tell you about drives, drives are also advertised with a certain amount of space but guess what...
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#59
Vya Domus
stimpy88Ahhh, you're one of those...
I am exactly what ? Fanboy , troll ? Spell it out , give me the full fledged insult , not the cut down version. Thought you are against that ?
stimpy88You gonna lecture me on how my card does technically have a full 4GB of RAM, now son?
I am going to lecture you to make the distinction between having a cut down GPU adequately advertised and one that isn't , son. Are you under the impression that when you use a cut down die in your product you must also resort to false advertising ? Do you seriously fail to see these are two separate matters ? No wonder you can't sleep at night , it's not that you bought a a falsely advertised product, it's your failure at understanding why that was the case.
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#60
RealNeil
_JP_So...just like the 560Ti?
Absolutely not. The 560Ti was SLI capable.
If the 1060 could do SLI, I would have bought a bunch of them.
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#61
Th3pwn3r
RealNeilAbsolutely not. The 560Ti was SLI capable.
If the 1060 could do SLI, I would have bought a bunch of them.
If it could it probably wouldn't work right anyways.
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#63
gamerman
well, why not,new GP104-300 is for reason, get more fps/tdp.

and nvidia has alot power left that gtx 1000 series.

its for sure 100 times better idea than amd release vega nano....omgggg. WHY? its before born dead and junk.

well something must get out,,, Mech, Arez ..but WHAT NEW?... amd gpus has still old lausy tech inside.

gtx 1060 6GB or amd vega 56/64...defnetly gtx 1060!
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#64
Vya Domus
gamermanwell, why not,new GP104-300 is for reason, get more fps/tdp.

and nvidia has alot power left that gtx 1000 series.

its for sure 100 times better idea than amd release vega nano....omgggg. WHY? its before born dead and junk.

well something must get out,,, Mech, Arez ..but WHAT NEW?... amd gpus has still old lausy tech inside.

gtx 1060 6GB or amd vega 56/64...defnetly gtx 1060!
I wonder what's worse , the inability to write proper sentences or the failed attempt at trolling.
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#65
lexluthermiester
RealNeilAbsolutely not. The 560Ti was SLI capable.
Correct. The GTX 560/560ti were SLI enabled. Only a few OEM's failed to build them with an SLI bridge.
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#66
R-T-B
stimpy88ok, this needs correction... "NVIDIA has a long history of playing Dr. Frankenstein on their graphics cards."

That should read...

NVIDIA has a long history of trying to rip off it's customers, any way that it can, and because NVIDIA is all for the Gamers, especially the uneducated or amature kind.
Sorry, but hell no. I like our news to be impartial. You know, cause journalism.
Caring1Hahahaha, so the answer is to suck it dry until it's dead?
And then eat it.
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#67
lexluthermiester
R-T-BSorry, but hell no. I like our news to be impartial. You know, cause journalism.
Come on R-T-B, responding to fanboy comments is beneath you. Heck it's even beneath me, but I still do it once in a while.
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#68
R-T-B
lexluthermiesterCome on R-T-B, responding to fanboy comments is beneath you. Heck it's even beneath me, but I still do it once in a while.
Then you know how it happens. Bad day at work? :laugh:
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#69
RichF
Vya DomusNvidia sure is doing their best to sell severely overpriced products, but, the practice of using the same die for multiple variants is perfectly valid. AMD is doing it , Intel is doing it , literately everyone else is doing it and there is no reason why it would pose any sort of disadvantage to the consumer.

Dose it really make you sleep better at night if the GPU you bought was not a cut down version of something else ?
The point is that people should be able to know what they're buying. That's why things like panel lotteries are bad business.

(Unfortunately, the goal of marketing is the opposite. Marketing departments are about selling products based on irrationality as much as possible. The goal of a for-profit corporation, also, is not to enrich humanity. It's not to add value. It's to make certain people wealthier — nothing more. Wealth comes from selling a product for more than it's worth, so it's essential to confuse people enough to pay extra.)

It is not difficult for Nvidia to plainly add something to the name 1060 (e.g. 1060 XE) or to change the number (1059, 1061, etc.).

It's bad business to sell a bunch of different specs as a "1060". And, tacking on VRAM is a confusing method of differentiating, when the other specs change as well. Nvidia should stick with either a consistent letters suffix that indicates performance hierarchy (one that is consistent from generation to generation) or it should just change the numbers incrementally (1058, 1059, 1060, 1061, 1062, etc.). If the performance is worse in a revised model then the number should drop accordingly.

If Nvidia sells a card with indistinguishable performance difference that's a separate issue than selling products that are quite different under the same name, which certainly has happened. The latter is bad business. Consumers and their advocates (ideally, the tech press, for instance) have to stand up for themselves against the bias of corporate marketing. They don't work for us. We get the bare minimum as a rule. Sell less for more is the ideal of any purely for-profit enterprise. So, it's up to us to demand more.

"Everybody's doing it" is a classic in the logical fallacies list, too.
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#70
Vya Domus
RichF"Everybody's doing it" is a classic in the logical fallacies list, too.
I am tired of explaining it over and over , at this point I'll just assume some of you just simply do know a whole lot about this industry and I'll just leave it at that.
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#71
RichF
Vya DomusI am tired of explaining it over and over , at this point I'll just assume some of you just simply do know a whole lot about this industry and I'll just leave it at that.
The industry is able to transcend logical fallacies? Yeah, I definitely don't know this special secret knowledge.
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