Friday, September 28th 2018
Graphics Card Manufacturing Being Moved From China in Bid to Escape Import Tariffs - Price to Increase 5-10%
The trade war between the US and China has been raging for a while now, and graphics cards are a minimal part of the goods affected. However, these are some of the most sought-after products in the hardware community, and thus deserving of special attention. Added tariffs, however, will either a) be absorbed by companies, or b) be passed on to customers at increased retail pricing. Since companies don't want to reduce their profit margin, and know consumers will buy less product at higher prices, steps are being taken by AIB (Add In Board) partners from both AMD and NVIDIA in moving graphics card manufacturing out of China.
Options being most seriously considered and acted upon stand as Taiwan and Mexico, where the lack of any additional tariff, added to relatively cheap labor, would allow manufacturers to keep operating costs relatively stable - and thus end user pricing. However, while this search for alternate manufacturing locations continues, the tariffs are already being pressed upon graphics cards makers, and it's expected that pricing of graphics cards will be facing increases of 5-10% in the coming months. As if we needed additional price increases in some old (and especially new) product lines...
Source:
TechSpot
Options being most seriously considered and acted upon stand as Taiwan and Mexico, where the lack of any additional tariff, added to relatively cheap labor, would allow manufacturers to keep operating costs relatively stable - and thus end user pricing. However, while this search for alternate manufacturing locations continues, the tariffs are already being pressed upon graphics cards makers, and it's expected that pricing of graphics cards will be facing increases of 5-10% in the coming months. As if we needed additional price increases in some old (and especially new) product lines...
98 Comments on Graphics Card Manufacturing Being Moved From China in Bid to Escape Import Tariffs - Price to Increase 5-10%
Chinese and brics have about 44% world population .. 60 % chinese production is already internal , they have byznis around world while usa loosing :p
india will have in 20 years same gdp like usa , now india buying load of Russian weapons systems.. and cooperation with pakistan and co to peace and
and more : Germany has surpassed the United States to become the leading car exporter to the China
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, right, and Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip ... has an acute recognition of the need to separate economics and politics in relations ... the cheaper andmore competitive the product is," Olenchenko explained. ... It's Up to German Business to Opt to Buy Russian Gas - Sigmar Gabriel. :clap:
Report: Long trade war would hurt US more than China ..
and Germany have repeatedly said that they support the Iran deal and want business ... grow more independent from the dollar and the U.S. economy, officials say. huhuuhuuu :toast:
The US Will Lose Its Trade War with China by Anatole Kaletsky ...
China added 53 gigawatt (GW) of solar power capacity, more
Mr Kempf urged US and China to negotiate a more feasible solution to end their ... He said: "The US and China urgently need to de-escalate the conflict and find ... us china trump trade wargermany tariffs businesses companies berlin ... "Once again, I urge China's leaders to take swift action to end their country's unfair trade ... yes block swift :toast:
Further to the publication of a notice of impending expiry ( 1 ), the Commission gives notice that the anti-dumping measure mentioned below will expire. This notice is published in accordance with Article 11(2) of Regulation (EU) 2016/1036 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 8 June 2016 on protection against dumped imports from countries not members of the European Union ( 2 )
www.cleanenergywire.org/news/eu-lifts-tariffs-chinese-solar-panels-co2-fills-germanys-coffers
www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article219037385.html :toast:
europe.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201809/21/WS5ba4f928a310c4cc775e79e0.html
Germany, EU urged to deepen cooperation with China
finance.yahoo.com/news/report-global-trade-war-hurt-080128951.html?guccounter=1
Simply swift attack is red ACE in european hands ... and + russia offer trade in Euro in last days is chess mate to pompeo pompedol :laugh:
i know that these types of chats are open to leaving people filled with hatred but I hope the TPU family can over come that type of thing....we will see.
@Indra18 I just would like to say that i meant no offense to you in anyway and if i did offend you I apologize as it was not my intention. I hope all people of this World could thrive.
Are you telling me that you'd rather pay some "slave" to make a video card for you? Or are you telling me that slavery is always going to exist, so you may as well take advantage of it if you can? Or are you just telling me that you hate paying "high" prices for things that no mere mortal can produce on his/her own?
EDIT: And yes, I have been to Europe and the middle-east. I've seen some squalor in my life. But when I saw that squalor I also saw people living a lot better on one "dollar" an hour than we here in the US live on five "dollars" an hour. So citizens' annual "wages" in various countries mean almost nothing to me.
Another edit: We're all slaves here, it's just a matter of who can gimme dat cool stuff for less slave labor than the other guy.
@Ahhz please stop thanking people for being anti-American. You are a Mod now, and mods are supposed to be neutral, but if you fall anywhere, it should always be on the side of your own country when an outsider attacks it. That's a great thing about us, we may fight amongst ourselves but no one else has the right to attack us.
edit: Hope that's not too political! :P
This will really have no impact on this group of users.
So, what going to happen in the future when A.I. Robots are making these cards and humans aren't really needed?
Now if you're against the extremely low wages that China pays their workers, that's another very complicated issue. If we demand China raise their wages and they do, do we remove the tariffs? I haven't seen any indication that we we would if they did comply with that demand. In fact I'm not really sure what we're demanding they do? Not steal trade secrets is the best reason I could find for enacting the tariffs, absolutely nothing to do with wages. Another complicated issue that tariffs really are unlikely to solve.
Finally on shipping. Well it's relatively cheap, otherwise countries on opposite side of the world wouldn't consume so many products manufactured from China. Just as an example: I believe the US still ships the majority of raw cotton we grow on the Southeastern part of the country to multiple countries across the Pacific, then ship that cotton right back to the US in the form of clothing (just look at the label on any of your clothing, it'll be Indonesia, Pakistan, China, etc.). That wouldn't be the case if shipping was overly expensive.If the manufacturing does come back to the US, this will be the form it takes. With relatively few employed to upkeep equipment. This is the only way the costs could remain competitive.
Your companies went to East, South Asia to pump dirt cheap products, knowingly polluting the environment, flouting labor laws et al. It was their greed & the insane consumerism, in the West, that has driven us to this day. What is the carbon footprint of an avg person in the US, as compared to much of Asia? How much money do you spend on cheap clothes, or other such products, that could easily be made in the States or Central/South America. How many times have you returned clothes cross country, online (Amazon?) as they don't fit, but more importantly because the return shipping is free!
The 4% GDP growth is a facade if all you're doing is consuming more! If you're upgrading infrastructure, making people's lives better, making the US better then it makes sense. Not the same sh!t we're seeing for half a century, sorry but the rest of the world isn't on the US' side on this. Sustainable development is the need of the hour, hoarding resources or more "consumerism" isn't & yes this applies to China!
While things are being done differently in the Netherlands, we also have heavy US influences here and a trend moving towards all the things one could criticize the US for. Its frightening, to be honest, to see that downward spiral fly across the Ocean. Because it really is mostly negative, despite all of its promises (and saying 'we should trust'... lol).
But perhaps you're right, politics shouldn't have a place on TPU. It still is a tech forum... However its hard to deny the relation between politics and technology either - and that is another trend that is very unlikely to change, quite the opposite.I really had expected you to be able to rise beyond blunt nationalism and patriotism. Is this really what you think? That the country is valued above personal / family relationships? That's pretty heavy, I hope you realize that. You're saying you would kill for the greater good of a nation, simply because you live in it. Do you even realize the US was founded upon colonization from abroad? Do you see the parallel to the second World War here? If there is one lesson that we should have learned from that, as a human species...
If there is one thing the US and its citizens need above anything else, its de escalation. You're now talking about attackers and defenders as if its a war. But nobody is shooting...
Gotcha! :kookoo:
And in the same reply you consider another one's comment ignorant and short sighted... What is this, some alternate reality?
Do you know what tariffs lead to?
Idiocy such as this:
www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2015/jul/09/bottled-water-shipped-halfway-round--world-madness
Its literally cheaper to ship a bottle of water around the globe than to bottle it locally, it invites wasteful behaviour because artificial price hikes negate the actual cost.
Second, it’s not nationalism, etc. it doesn’t matter from whence my ancestors came, my loyalties are not to those countries. Through 3/4 of a career in the military and even now as a government employee, I take seriously my oath to the U.S. Constitution. Not to any leaders, but to the document which is central to our founding and governance. So it matters not who is in charge, my likes and dislikes will be played out at the ballot box, and I will always defend my country from outside aggression, whether verbal or more ( not sure how you took the leap to killing, since I was talking about verbal attacks).
Let me make it easy for you to understand. For the majority of people in the world, they may fight or disagree or not like things about a brother, sister, spouse, mother or father, but it is not ok for someone else outside that family to say nasty things about those family members. That person will defend their family no matter what.
This is why we don’t do politics here. Too many assumptions are made by people who don’t have all the facts about another person or their country. And too many people think it is ok to bash and verbally attack and bring up negatives, as if the person in another country has the power to say “you’re right, this is so absurd, let me go fix it right away.”
No one is able to control where they were born. There is nothing wrong with loving ones own country, despite the flaws. This is why you don’t ever see me bashing another country, despite the strong views I have for one in particular, due to ancestry and spouse, and the mess unfolding there. I keep it inside where it belongs.
Manufacturing is going to go where ever it gets the sweetest deal.